Did Mandalore die?

[REDJOHNNYMIKE]

I've gotten my storylines mixed up...again;)

 

Did Mandalore die at malachor?

and if so is there absolute proof?

[MdKnightR]

I think it was largely left up to your imagination.

[Darth InSidious]

Metaphorically or physically?

[RaV™]

I'm pretty sure he'll be back for another KOTOR.

[stoffe]

I've gotten my storylines mixed up...again;)

 

Did Mandalore die at malachor?

and if so is there absolute proof?

 

The old Mandalore who Revan was locking horns with during the Mandalorian War was killed at Malachor by Revan herself, according to the story in both games. That's where she took the helmet off his corpse to prevent another from assuming the mantle for a while, which the Mandalore in TSL tells you of.

 

The surviving Mandalorians then surrendered, were stripped of their weapons and armor and then scattered across the galaxy.

[Jeff]

I do not think it was official whether he lived or not. We'll have to wait and see in the next kotor...

[RaV™]

The old Mandalore who Revan was locking horns with during the Mandalorian War was killed at Malachor by Revan 'her'self, according to the story in both games. That's where he took the helmet off his corpse to prevent another from assuming the mantle for a while, which the Mandalore in TSL tells you of.

 

Um..Shouldn't it be himself?

[stoffe]

Um..Shouldn't it be himself?

 

In my personal opinion (and in my games) Revan was a woman. Suits the story (and appearance) better. Others likely will disagree and have their own view on the matter. So no, it was not a typo.

[Darth InSidious]

I think RJM was asking about Canadlore

 

If so, why do people think he died at Malachor? Nuttin' in the game suggests he even WENT to Malachor with you

[RaV™]

In my personal opinion (and in my games) Revan was a woman. Suits the story (and appearance) better. Others likely will disagree and have their own view on the matter. So no, it was not a typo.

 

I find it more suitable for Revan to be a male, while the Exile is female..but you can choose whichever. I really doubt any of the partymembers came with you, except the one whoever saves you in the Ebon Hawk and G0-T0 and the remote. So therefore I think Mandalore was never on Malachor and so that means he survives, unless someone accidentally landed their basilisk on him, then I doubt he would ._.

[Emperor Devon]

Revan fought and killed him at Malachor. It's mentioned multiple times in both games.

[Bob Lion54]

The thing to remember is whomever is the leader of the Mandalorians is called Mandalore. Its their tradition.

 

 

Revan killed Mandalore at Malachor. This is a different Mandalore than Canderous.

 

As for Canderous, what MdKightR said.

 

[REDJOHNNYMIKE]

@Stoffe, I didn't remember where that was mentioned, was it like his head was cut off, or was there a possibility (a cliche one I admit) that he might've survived, his succesor was able to use implants to simulate death?

P.S. I don't agree with you about female revan and the story, but I do about the appearence, they did seem to be higher quality.

 

@DI, I was referring to the time off the battle at malachor, not the TSL return to the academy.

 

Hypothetically, what if (those three evil words:D) Mandalore barely survived and escaped the battle before the activation of the mass shadow generator, and was led to believe that he was beaten not only because of revan, but also because he was betrayed by one of his own men,

and now sions unkown apprentice, encrusted in an ancient suit that predates the mandalore succesions, with steroidal syringes buried in his skinless muscle, and strange force crystals embedded in the nub where his arm used to be is on the revenge warpath against the soon to be Mandilous, and you must keep him from reclaiming his title as an invincible mandalore, to prevent the republic collapsing under another enemy.

kinda far fetched, but it could fit into the story?

[stoffe]

I didn't remember where that was mentioned, was it like his head was cut off, or was there a possibility (a cliche one I admit) that he might've survived, his succesor was able to use implants to simulate death?

 

Very unlikely. Revan didn't need the Mandalorians anymore, so she'd probably make pretty sure their leader was quite dead to ensure he wouldn't cause trouble later. In particular since the surviving Mandalorians would surrender with their leader being defeated. The Mandalorians had played their part in her plans.

 

Besides, the Mandalorians, much less their leader, does not strike me as the types to feign death in a straight 1 on 1 duel with the leader of their opponent. Warrior honor would probably be tainted by such a thing. And a Mandalore defeated in battle would likely be a broken Mandalore in either case. The Mandalorians appear to respect strength above all, and if their leader was to be found lacking in that department said Mandalore would likely lose the respect of his people.

 

Hypothetically, what if (those three evil words:D) Mandalore barely survived and escaped the battle before the activation of the mass shadow generator, and was led to believe that he was beaten not only because of revan

 

According to the story in TSL, the MSG had already been fired by then. Unless I'm misunderstanding or forgetting something, the battle of Malachor seems to have gone like this:

 

1) Revan arranges all battle damaged Republic ships into a fleet and deploys them at Malachor for "repairs" as an irresistable bait to lure in the Mandalorians, who are looking for an opportunity to turn the tide of the war. The Exile is assigned command of this fleet while Revan is conveniently delayed elsewhere. Aside from the Exile, hundreds of Jedi who defied the council and joined Revan in the war against the Mandalorians are also parts of this fleet.

 

2) The Mandalorians are drawn into the trap, eager to weaken the Republic who they are already losing against, and battle is joined. The Mandalorians, comitting everything they have to the attack, vastly outnumber the Republic fleet, who fights valiantly but are no match for their attackers.

 

3) As the Republic lines are about to collapse, the MSG is activated. The majority of the Mandalorian fleet and remaining Republic ships are crushed by Malachor V's gravity well. The Exile is severed from the Force while the other Jedi either dies from the MSG blast, the Force backlash, or are drowned in the Darkside by Malachor's power. (The planet appears to be a darkside nexus of some kind, which was greatly amplified by all the death and destruction caused by the battle and MSG detonation and subsequent death of so many Jedi.)

 

4) Revan arrives with her own fleet and takes on the surviving Mandalorians, among them Mandalores flagship and his personal guard. The Mandalorian ships are mopped up and Revan defeats Mandalore in 1 on 1 combat. Revan claims Mandalore's helmet.

 

5) The Mandalorian survivors surrender at the death of their leader, the best of them having been beaten by a superior foe. They are stripped of their weapons, ships and armor by Revan's forces and scatters across the galaxy.

[REDJOHNNYMIKE]

Thank you, I guess I must have missed a dialog with the details, did you get that from mandalore? (so I can go digging through the DLGs)

 

I didn't mean that he would feign his death, but that his implants would keep just enough in him to revive him long after death,

Severe irreparable damage would of course be a result, but that would fit the character even more perfectly,

and if the implant had connections with the DS it might have used Sidious like masking to hide it from force users (shameless excuse for a new item)

It could have been dormant, and had force energy transferred through a lightsaber finishing strike, starting an activation sequence.

[Astrotoy7]

There are a few in EU that claim the title Mandalore, there 'The First', 'The Indominatable' and 'The Resurrected'...

 

heres CUSWE's entries:

http://www.theforce.net/swenc/advsearch.asp?Type=Entry&search=MANDALORE&EandD=EyDn&no=50

 

that aside, the mandalore in the comix was awesome...

 

edit:

and no, we cannot scan and post the comics Im sure you'll find plenty of info on google, theres some pretty cool fansites out there

 

mtfbwya

[REDJOHNNYMIKE]

I only read one, a long time ago...SCAN AND POST... unless there's a problem with that, I don't know how rules apply there, maybe just an excerpt:D

[pokejedi123]

yes mandalore died (wll if the writers dont bring him back)

 

the new mandalore was canderous ordo

[Kensai]

@Stoffe, I didn't remember where that was mentioned, was it like his head was cut off, or was there a possibility (a cliche one I admit) that he might've survived, his succesor was able to use implants to simulate death?

P.S. I don't agree with you about female revan and the story, but I do about the appearence, they did seem to be higher quality.

 

@DI, I was referring to the time off the battle at malachor, not the TSL return to the academy.

 

Hypothetically, what if (those three evil words:D) Mandalore barely survived and escaped the battle before the activation of the mass shadow generator, and was led to believe that he was beaten not only because of revan, but also because he was betrayed by one of his own men,

and now sions unkown apprentice, encrusted in an ancient suit that predates the mandalore succesions, with steroidal syringes buried in his skinless muscle, and strange force crystals embedded in the nub where his arm used to be is on the revenge warpath against the soon to be Mandilous, and you must keep him from reclaiming his title as an invincible mandalore, to prevent the republic collapsing under another enemy.

kinda far fetched, but it could fit into the story?

 

How can someone create that story in their heads????

[Darth Smaug]

Well i don't think he died,but if he did ,there will be another new mandalorian NPC in kotor 3 i'm sure about that!

[RobQel-Droma]

I thought they were talking about the Mandalore that wasn't Canderous, the other guy that Revan killed?

[Kensai]

Which means, that the previous Madalore is dead, and Canderous came and took the mantle for K2...