Darth n00b Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 I couldn't find a good place to put this, so I putted it here since I am here most of the time. If some mods know a better place, please put it there. After going trough my LA collection (which is large since I'm kinda a LA whore...) I took notice of some important similarities that all fits to the Revolution. Graphic: LucasArts have never really prioritised graphic, the best graphic on this date is Republic Commando, the rest don't have anything to really challenge any video card, just look on Battlefront II or Trails of Obi Wan. And Nintendo have said that they expect to be the weakest machine, but not very far from the rest. Graphics seams to be no problem. Sound: For you who don't know it, George Lucas founded and own THX Sound, nuff said. And John Williams’s scores and Ben Burt's sound effects are top notch. Nintendo have never, as I have heard, down prioritised sound. It is even rumoured that Revo will have Dolby 7.1 support! Size: To quote Yoda "Size matters not.". Well, he was wrong. KotOR came never to the Cube because of this, the small discs were too small, BUT the Revo will play on normal discs with larger space, so size won't stop the games now. Online: This was one of the most important handicaps of the Cube, and stopped too many games. But Nintendo has promised full online support. And LucasArts loves online, it is still people playing Jedi Academy online, two - three years after the release. And don't let me start on the Battlefront series... The Controller: Ahh... I saved the best for the end. Now, of all of you Star Wars fans out there, which one of you didn't think "lightsaber" the instant minute you laid eyes on that marvel? Put the controller forward or back to use Force Push or Force Pull. The aiming could be used to shoot your trusty E-11. The possibilities are endless, and I believe the guys over in Lucas Valley can find some of them... Now, is there anything I have forgotten or a roadblock I haven't foreseen? Please tell me, or give feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 I thought of the Lightsaber part, too Only one problem: I find LA to be money-fetishists (omg...the word). And uncle Bill has a big bag of money. La doesn't give a crap about gameplay orso. Only their money. Sorry for the negative response, but look at Trials of Obi-Wan: They putted Hk-47 in it! Look at Republic Commando! It would be a very, very cool idea, to make a FPS (First person Saber) game. But i don't think LA will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 The Controller: Ahh... I saved the best for the end. Now, of all of you Star Wars fans out there, which one of you didn't think "lightsaber" the instant minute you laid eyes on that marvel? Put the controller forward or back to use Force Push or Force Pull. The aiming could be used to shoot your trusty E-11. The possibilities are endless, and I believe the guys over in Lucas Valley can find some of them... Personally, I think that would look ridiculous. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Personally, I think that would look ridiculous. But that's just me.I have to agree here. I guess it would work, but it would look really silly doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 lol Weat Dream. A lightsaber shaped controller might look neat, but Im not sure how well it would work. The Revolution thingy looks like its taking a step backwards to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 lol Weat Dream. A lightsaber shaped controller might look neat, but Im not sure how well it would work. The Revolution thingy looks like its taking a step backwards to me. Maybe I misunderstood, but I don't think he meant a lightsaber-shaped controller. The Revolution controller looks like a TV remote. (I would post a pic but when I search on google it doesn't bring up any results that are correct, and I'm on a slow computer ) So the way that the controller is supposed to work is that it has motion sensors, so like if you move it down your character crouches down, move it side to side to turn, etc. So if an FPS game, maybe similar to JK, were to be released, it would be possible that you could swing the controller around like it was a lightsaber. But I don't know if it would work this way or not. I don't think I would like the swinging around the controller idea, but I love the idea of motion sensors and the remote-control shaped controller for the Revolution. It's definitely the next-gen console I'm looking forward to most. And I think it would work perfectly with Star Wars games too, though I don't know if there will be any for it at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 I guess it would work, but it would look really silly doing it. Well so does DDR, if I had a quarter for every silly looking kid at a DDR machine or on the dancepads convulsing like a manic chihuaha, I'd be one rich bastard. Anyway, you lot should check out one of Lynk Former's posts about a jedi knight game. Hell any questions about the Revolution, just ask him and he'll clear up the many misconceptions about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Well so does DDR, if I had a quarter for every silly looking kid at a DDR machine or on the dancepads convulsing like a manic chihuaha, I'd be one rich bastard. Point taken. Now that I think about it though, if they made a Star Wars game for revolution where you had to swing the controller to move the lightsaber, I would probably do it just because it's Star Wars XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallucination Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I think that LA likes all systems, except maybe the PS 1/2 but they don't count . I don't they'll favour the Revo because they're greedy and want all the money they can get. P.S. I would like the Revo, but the wave the controller idea isnt a good one IMO, but they might make a real, normal controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 but they might make a real, normal controller. They are going to have different shells for the remote controller. There will definitely be a shell which you can plug the controller into a normal-looking game controller, and there are concept sketches made by companies other than nintendo that show the controller plugged into shells such as steering wheels and guns. So yes, there will be normal, and abnormal, controllers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallucination Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 ^^Thats good news. @Darth n00b: Why is the title weat dream? do they have corn and rice dreams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuu Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Nintendo Revoultions causes nocturnal emissions at Lucas Arts. News at 11. Fuu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth n00b Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 They are going to have different shells for the remote controller. There will definitely be a shell which you can plug the controller into a normal-looking game controller, and there are concept sketches made by companies other than nintendo that show the controller plugged into shells such as steering wheels and guns. So yes, there will be normal, and abnormal, controllers. Are we talking about the consept art some guy at the IGN boards made, or have I missed anything? And I blame my Norwegian nationality for my lack of english skills which made my make such a poor title... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 It does sound great but it'll take a lot of time and effort to figure out just how to make a Jedi Knight game to work well. The thing is, I don't think LucasArts have the patience to sit down and figure it out. I can see a VERY cool X-Wing or other flight game working VERY well with the Revolution. As long as you're given a full 3D playing field you'll be able to perform the best manoeuvres and really get in there and make it look like you're part of the movies or have real flight ability. (I was figuring out the controls for this type of game when I was thinking of the Revolution version of Star Fox) An action game will work with the Revolution, especially a Jedi Knight game. It'd be a third person view because first person is too restrictive. But instead of just focusing on Jedi Knight fighting the normal blaster wielding folks, you can have some great Jedi to Jedi battles. Of course the controls would need you to have the analog attachment, but Nintendo is providing that with the Revolution controller when you buy your Revolution initially so it's all good. (I was figuring out the controls for this type of game when I was thinking of the Revolution version of The Legend of Zelda) If LucasArts were to make an FPS type game, say like Republic Commando, they dould do it very well on the Revolution, as well as an RTS game, both would work very well with online play, but I bet ya LucasArts would make you pay for it because Nintendo is allowing third parties to charge people for online play if they really want to, and LA really would. When people think of different "shells" for the controllers, people often think they're going to have to buy all these different things for different games. It's a common misunderstanding. As it stands so far Nintendo have the analog expansion, the classic controller shell, and POSSIBLY a steering wheel shell planned for the controller, which isn't much. I think that LucasArts won't be taken with the Revoluiton as much as people think. Why? Because at the moment they don't think it'll make them bucket loads of money with little effort. It's not because they think it's a step backwards like Ashley does, it's because they think that Sony and Microsoft can make them more money than Nintendo can. But this last paragraph is just me being bitter because of the lack of Star Wars games on the GameCube that were certainly possible to put on the system that I would have bought. For those who do think that Revolution looks like it's a step backward, wait and play it before you say such things, you may be surprised by it. From what developers have said about their experiences with the Revolution it looks like we'll be getting some very fun games soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I wouldn't be surprised if Lucasarts passed on the Revolution altogether. In which case, no weat dreams for the kiddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth n00b Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 It smartest to wait and see if the marked emrace the revolution before you ask If LA choose to ditch Revo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I'm leaning towards LA not supporting the Revolution either, it will make them more money if they do, but LA is a company that churns out generic games rather than unique games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak84 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I sure hope the revo is lucas arts wet dream, it's exciting to think of all the possiblities for games espcially with the star wars franchise,hopefully LA will be more interested in creating unique fun an exciting games a not just easy made generic titles that will suit easy port from pc to xbox 360 an playstation 3. Im no hater of sony or microsoft but it's crazy that the most unique console will be retailing much cheaper, sure the system won't be as beefed up as the sony an the xbox but 2 years down the track with the consoles all released an fighting for top position the technology will be old an our computer hardware will have left console hardware for dead. I guess what im trying to say to LA is think about gameplay first an then graphics second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth n00b Posted November 11, 2005 Author Share Posted November 11, 2005 I guess what im trying to say to LA is think about gameplay first an then graphics second. Didn't you read what I wrote? Exept Republic Commander and the Rouge Squadron series it seams like LA haven't understood that it is 2005, not 2002... What LA is after is money, and Nintendo don't sell very well, unfortenatly. However, wait until 2007 before you say that LA won't do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 The Revolution would make Che Guevara roll in his grave It's controller looks like a reject DVD remote with a stick in the middle and it's behind on the graphics. LA is going after money and Nintendo is apparently melting it down for Revolution components, LA would be fairly stupid to design anything for the Revolution for a while, perhaps never. Hopefully they will have the sense to scrap the Revolution and make and N 256 or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Poppycock. I'd say the revolution has a fair chance of drawing the gaze of LA. The controller setup opens some interesting possibilities for future SW gaming, and even if we don't get new games, we get backwards compatibility with all the old ones. It all boils down to popularity. If the revolution sweeps the PS3, for example, LA will go for the one that rakes in more $$$. Besides, the free online access is bound to mix things around a shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I'm sure there are people within LA who are interested in the possibilities opened up by the Revolution, the problem is that it's most likely that we won't get many unique games from LA but rather ports from the PS3 and Xbox360. Like I said before, LA is a company that is known for making generic games rather than unique games. Nintendo is the most efficient out of the three major companies, they can sell less amounts of consoles than the other two yet profit highly from it anyway. This is because Nintendo knows how to make cost effective consoles and games. In the end Nintendo wins, but it doesn't matter for third party companies. The thing that stopped a lot of third party developers from developing games on the GameCube was a very simple thing. It wasn't the lack of online capability like so many people think. It was the disc size. Even with the superior compression that GCN discs have, there are still a lot of games that can't fit on a single GCN disc, so the solution is to put them on two, but when you do that it costs twice as much to release a game on the GCN than it does on the PS2 and Xbox. This is where the Revolution differs greatly. While we don't know the exact details, it is apparant that Nintendo has looked very closely at all of the aspects that hurt the GameCube to make sure they don't make the same mistakes. I'm betting that the Revolution discs will be able to hold at least as much as a Xbox360 disc. However there is a big difference between the Xbox360 and Revolution. The Revolution doesn't support HD, this means lower polygon models and lower resolution video. It sounds like a downside but the fact is that it also means less disc space wasted on trying to make games HD ready. This means more content, bigger games. The tables have turned, at least in terms of the Xbox360 VS Revolution aspect. Because of the fact that ALL Xbox360 games MUST be HD ready we have some developers who are having trouble fitting HD games onto the Xbox360 discs. Before I mentioned that LA will most likely release ports, I'm sure some of you have thought "well how are they gonna port games to the Revolution with THAT controller?" Well Nintendo have already said that there will be a Traditional controller attachment. Here's a mockup I drew up of what this might look like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I would love another Rogue Squadronish game/flight sime for the next gen, any next gen damniT! *casts Resurrect+1 on Larry Holland* mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Same here Astro, the Revolution controller begs for a Star Wars based flight game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Poppycock. I'd say the revolution has a fair chance of drawing the gaze of LA. The controller setup opens some interesting possibilities for future SW gamingBut if those possiblities are unique to the revolution and can't be ported to the 360 or PS3, it ain't going to happen. And I would heart a new SW flight sim... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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