Sad day for America

[Cmdr. Cracken]

4 years. It took this long to strip all americans of any civil liberties, and turn into a true imperial power.

 

i coulda done it in 2. ><

[edlib]

Well, here we are: 5-Years.

 

What can I say that hasn't been said a thousand times in the last week in every news outlet you can imagine?

[edlib]

Here we are again... my yearly bump.

 

Honestly... if I hadn't had to write the date today, I doubt that it would have occurred to me that it was the anniversary of 9/11.

 

That's how little of a deal it seem to be getting made around here.

 

Perhaps it's different elsewhere.

 

Well... 6 years.

 

Have we learned anything?

[Commander 598]

This is America, we tend to forget major things happening in like a week.

 

There was an Onion article on that very subject: http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/hey_wasnt_there_some_sort_of

[edlib]

9/11/2008

 

Difficult to believe another year has passed already...

[Zargon]

I try to not think about it

 

but with how ef'd over lots of things are thanks to lots of civil liberties being removed its hard to forget.

[edlib]

True, that.

[K_Kinnison]

IMHO we need to get over it, and stop using it as a device of fear. We end up being worse then the Terrorist. In fact a lot of people who fly now feel like suspected terrorists.

 

I doubt people mourned this long when Peral Harbor was bombed, or President Kennedy was killed

[edlib]

There are still memorials to Pearl Harbor every year.

Bigger ones on anniversaries that are multiples of 5 or 10.

But the war that Pearl Harbor got us into was essentially over, and the enemy vanquished before the 5th anniversary took place.

 

So I'm not sure that is such a great example.

 

 

But I understand your point. My mother was saying the same thing earlier tonight.

 

The thing that gets me about most of the discussions about the day of 9/11 is how some people have the attitude of "How DARE anyone feel they have the right to attack us!"

 

Which, is pretty much how I felt in the minutes, hours, days just after the event.

 

Now I feel more like: "Just what makes us so special that we are above that level of hatred against us?"

 

Before I learned about the events that took place after 9/11, I might have had an answer for that.

 

Now I'd be hard pressed to come up with one.

 

We have done some fairly indefensible things in the name of defending liberty for our country. Things that if another nation or group did to any of our citizens, we would be totally outraged over.

 

Sometimes it takes remembering on a day like this to think about these issues again.

 

In that way, memorializing this day has it's advantages.

[Greygriffon]

Ok every onr please pull you head out get some fresh air. First If you look at the planes in the video they ARE BLACK. No airline on the planet flys Black planes. WHO does? Second: the way those building came down was a controlled drop. That started at the bottom of the buildings. BOTTOM OF THE BUILDINDS! Tower 4 which was not struck by the planes was brought down in a controlled drop the same day. Why, better Question is how it take weeks to plan a controlled building drop.

Third: The first reports of the pentagon being hit was by a MISSLE! not a plane. and why was the wreckage of the "plane" that hit the Pentagon no larger than what could be picked up by hand?

Lastly, I ask you not to judge until all the fact have been addressed. I will never say that war is unnessary If you look at the last administation you have to see there are a lot of question left unanswered.

[Greygriffon]

If you look at the pearl harbor attack by the Japanesse Navy & Air forces the president at the time had allowed!! the attack to take place. the national intelligence group knew the japan was going to attack Pearl. they were not sure of the dates they were syre of the coming attack.

[edlib]

Meh.

 

I've heard all those theories. Don't buy it.

 

It has all the same problems that most conspiracy theories have... mainly that you take a fairly simple premise (that there are people in the world that don't like the US, and a dozen of them hijacked some planes and attacked us with them, and in our arrogance we missed the clues that would have allowed us to prevent it) and replaces it with a far, FAR more complicated one that involves American government and military hatching an amazingly intricate plan and thousands of people (including the entire press) keeping silent all this time and being involved in elaborate cover-up.

 

But mainly: I refuse to believe the Bush administration (which proved itself almost totally incompetent in every other regard for 8 years) was at all capable of pulling off such a plan.

[edlib]

Yearly 9/11 bump.

 

8 years already. Hard to believe...

[edlib]

Another year.

 

9, in total.

[Keyan Farlander]

Can't believe it's been that long...

[Liverandbacon]

That day is when I went from considering joining the military after finishing up college, to being dead certain.

 

RIP all that died, both in the attack, and all that has followed it.

[edlib]

5-1-11

 

Osama Bin Laden declared dead.

 

Finally, the feeling that some sense of justice has occurred.

[Liverandbacon]

Now to do the same to any others planning something similar.

[SITH LORD 872]

Where there is one there is all ways another!!

[edlib]

10 years.

[Cmdr. Cracken]

10 years, and the rights that were taken from the American people in the name of "National Security" have yet to be returned.

[edlib]

Here we are again.

 

It seems like a different world now.

 

Hopefully that's a good thing...

[Keyan Farlander]

Yeah...but I don't think it is. At least we haven't had another incident of this magnitude, though.

[K_Kinnison]

Too bad we had an incompetent president that allowed the incident of such magnitude in the first place, and then pissed away trillions of dollars in wars of retaliation for said attacks.

[Rogue15]

yeah right k_k. al gore would've blown it on global warming, john kerry would've blown it on stupid **** too.