Saddam Hussein

[TSR]

Ok, this is major league news, but i don't see a thread on it already. So please excuse me if there is, its probably me being a t*t.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6119428.stm

 

Saddam Hussein. Sentenced to death by hanging. What a screw up. yes, the guy deserves to die, but we need to think about this. Killing him will make him a martyr. I don't want to go to deep into this if i dont have to, as my views are very strong and will probably consist of crude language. So what does everyone else think?

 

@ED- Argh, senate chambers. Those replies need time, concise thinking and effort to do. I lack the capacity nor the desire to do such a thing

[Emperor Devon]

There actually was a thread in the Senate Chambers. But onto this, it's about time. Good riddance.

[Negative Sun]

Yes, killing him by testicle-ripping-and-bleeding-to-death would be much better, and I think it would make him les of a martyr...I mean, who would want to worship a guy without balls?

[Darth InSidious]

Hmm.

 

Does he deserve to die? Erm...Maybe.

 

But by killing him, the Iraqi government is no better than him, IMO.

 

Personally, I'd imprison him for life with the Tellytubbies...

[HerbieZ]

Im glad he's been found guilty and that he will be punished for the deaths of innocent people but i don't think anyone should be forced to die for their crimes. It's slightly Jedi of me but it's what i just think. There are many fates worse than death. Working at a KFC in Levenshulme i believe is one.

[Darth InSidious]

What's wrong with being 'slightly Jedi'?

 

I think it's laudable.

[TK-8252]

Sentencing him to death? Typical.

 

What we should do: put him back in charge of Iraq, and let him clean up the mess. Now THAT would be punishment.

[Mace MacLeod]

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

[lukeiamyourdad]

What we should do: put him back in charge of Iraq, and let him clean up the mess. Now THAT would be punishment.

 

 

Hehe, he might actually prove to be effective at the job.

[Mav]

I'm not a fan of the death penalty, just leave him in a prison. But the thing that's really odd... death by hanging? wouldn't lethal injection be more humane?

[Point Man]

It's better than he deserves.

[Emperor Devon]

wouldn't lethal injection be more humane?

 

It would be more humane, which is precisely why we're not doing it.

 

One example out of many...

 

It's better than he deserves.

 

QFE.

[mimartin]

It's better than he deserves.

Agreed!

[Jeff]

I'd prefer to see life imprisonment over this. For a couple reasons, it's against my moral views, it's more punishment to spend life in prison than to just die, and like some of you said he'll be a martyr to his followers.

[Mav]

It would be more humane, which is precisely why we're not doing it.

 

One example out of many...

Even though someone may have done the awful things that Hussein has done, I'm not denying that, employing the attitude that we have the "right" to exert equal punishment on said individual is foolish.

 

I'd prefer to see life imprisonment over this. For a couple reasons, it's against my moral views, it's more punishment to spend life in prison than to just die, and like some of you said he'll be a martyr to his followers.

QFE

[Emperor Devon]

Even though someone may have done the awful things that Hussein has done, I'm not denying that, employing the attitude that we have the "right" to exert equal punishment on said individual is foolish.

 

I would call one hanging a far from equal punishment in proportion to genocide on such a scale...

[Mav]

I would call one hanging a far from equal punishment in proportion to genocide on such a scale...

Well in the case of genocide, I doubt it is possible to kill one person several thousand times. So in that sense, his death, no matter how inhumane you would like to be, will never be equal punishment. I feel that execution, in any circumstance, is not a means to which problems are solved or debts are paid.

[Jae Onasi]

Folks, the Americans aren't imposing the sentence, the Iraqis are. They're the ones who tried and sentenced him, and the ones who will execute him.

And here's how much I'll mourn: Yep, that's pretty much it, we can move on now.

[lukeiamyourdad]

Folks, the Americans aren't imposing the sentence, the Iraqis are. They're the ones who tried and sentenced him, and the ones who will execute him.

 

Don't accuse people against the death penalty of anti-americanism when the United States have not been mentioned yet.

As far as I know, the concept of death penalty is not exclusive to the USA, so discussing it without mentioning said country is totally possible.

[Emperor Devon]

So in that sense, his death, no matter how inhumane you would like to be, will never be equal punishment.

 

Unfortunately, yes. However, a hanging is a closer punishment than just a lethal injection.

 

I feel that execution, in any circumstance, is not a means to which problems are solved or debts are paid.

 

It's justice. If someone commits a crime, they should be punished according the severity of it. And in the case of genocide, it is a very severe one.

[Jae Onasi]

Don't accuse people against the death penalty of anti-americanism when the United States have not been mentioned yet.

As far as I know, the concept of death penalty is not exclusive to the USA, so discussing it without mentioning said country is totally possible.

 

To be honest, I wasn't thinking of anti-Americanism at all, just a clarification on who was responsible for sentencing Hussein. I didn't connect death penalty issues with anti-Americanism, either. Those are 2 entirely separate issues. I'm not a big fan of the death penalty in the US simply because all the appeals cost the states more money in the long run than just housing the criminal. Yeah, that may be cold, but if they're guilty, they're going to spend time in jail for the rest of their lives or die with no hope of rehabilitation and release no matter what, so we may as well do it in the least expensive way possible.

 

The only reason I posted that was because it sounded like some folks were thinking the US was involved (which would be natural, given our involvement there), when in fact it's the Iraqis who are taking responsibility for their own people. The US and a number of other countries are over there in Iraq so that the Iraqi people can have the right to convict a dictator of heinous crimes. It's a pleasure to see the Iraqis taking the initiative to try and convict Hussein, whether or not they actually put him to death.

[lukeiamyourdad]

The only reason I posted that was because it sounded like some folks were thinking the US was involved (which would be natural, given our involvement there), when in fact it's the Iraqis who are taking responsibility for their own people.

 

This is where it was unclear since I didn't see anyone who sounded like he thought the US was involved with the sentence. Honestly, I don't see it anywhere.

I guess it all was a case of misinterpretation.

[MdKnightR]

Hanging is too good for him. I'd suggest public castration, followed by disembowelment and then behead him!

[lukeiamyourdad]

I don't really understand the need of killing him. Isn't it a bit too sweet? I'd rather have him rot at the bottom of the hole he was captured in. Surely, those who want "justice" must prefer having him suffer many years for what he did rather then spending a few seconds choking on rope.

[Mav]

I don't really understand the need of killing him. Isn't it a bit too sweet? I'd rather have him rot at the bottom of the hole he was captured in. Surely, those who want "justice" must prefer having him suffer many years for what he did rather then spending a few seconds choking on rope.

I agree, I don't see the need to kill him, or anyone else for their crimes, goes back to the whole eye for an eye thing. However, it does seem like quite a few people here want to see him executed, I wonder if they would do it with their own hands though? I know I couldn't do it, nor do I want to.