Negative Sun Posted August 27, 2007 Author Share Posted August 27, 2007 I don't think that would be necessary anyways, as it would just be their opinions and I hold no personal grudge against most of them... My case isn't hard to prove IMO because: 1) I never received any warnings or disciplinary actions. I just got fired on the spot for no valid reason. 2) The director's daughter works there full time in my position now. 3) The assistant manager's sister works there as well. 4) The Dispensing Optician's sister works there as well. 5) I got fired (allegedly) for something that happens every day in that store, as there are a lot of personal quarrels between the "team" members. So basically, I'm no one's relative or whatever so I'm the one they can just get rid of...What shocks me is the fact that they think I'm gonna sit there, bend over and just take it like a **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 So, what are your terms? Seems like going back would be awkward at best at this point. Good luck either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted August 27, 2007 Author Share Posted August 27, 2007 I don't want it back, I just want them to pay, literally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Varen Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Sorry about losing your job Negative Sun. You have every right to sue the company, if they couldn't appreciate your efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Taping conversations without someone's consent may not be legal. You would need to consult someone for legal advice on that. It's perfectly legal where I live. It's called one-party consent, meaning that you can record any conversation in which you are an active participant, without the other participant(s) knowledge. In person or over the phone. But yeah, you should check your local laws. I guess I should have mentioned that. My case isn't hard to prove IMO because: 1) I never received any warnings or disciplinary actions. I just got fired on the spot for no valid reason. 2) The director's daughter works there full time in my position now. 3) The assistant manager's sister works there as well. 4) The Dispensing Optician's sister works there as well. 5) I got fired (allegedly) for something that happens every day in that store, as there are a lot of personal quarrels between the "team" members.[/Quote] Unfortunately that is all circumstantial evidence. You'll need hard proof to guarantee a payoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentScope001 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 I never received any warnings or disciplinary actions. I just got fired on the spot for no valid reason. Sorry to give some bad news concering America, but in my state, it is perfectly legal to fire people without giving any reason. Ironically, it's known as the "right-to-work" law. And I can understand the reason for this law (pro-big business and all), granting reasons for why you want to lay people off can be irriating, and you have to cut out the dead weight. Still, it is bad for the common worker. So you may have no legal grounding if your state's laws are like mine. Judging from the fact that you don't even live in the US, and live in Scotland, which has presumbly a much more liberal policy, you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcesious Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Dude, that's just slefish what the manager did. i'm about ot get my first job, probably being a busboy at a restraunt called 'donut shop'. Reading this is gonna prepare me for those stupid things people do. i feel sorry for you man, people are morons. Mankind will always have greed and often no regard for the fellow person- a cruel fact that saddens me. That manager just fired you so her daughter could make more money on the job in your place because she couldn't pay you both fulltime- pure selfishness. I've heard billionares say 'enough money is never enough'. that's just plain out greedy. my life savings right now is only 500$, my family only makes 60,000 a year, and we don't hav enough to buy anything nice, besides having a bigscreen TV and a 30$ DVD player. Why must those guys hog all that money when they've already got all they'll ever need? i mean seriously... if i had a couple hundred thousand dollars, i'd be happy, not wanting any more, but these guys who have billions never can get enough. Greed is a cruel tormentor, i feel your pain man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mur'phon Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 To bad about the job loss, hopefully it'll soon be "payback time" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Aww man Negative Sun, that's just awful. My condolences, but don't waste your time suing those asses unless you can't find another job. It's not worth lowering yourself to their level and getting into risky legal action if you can walk away, get another job and show them they weren't able to damage you. my family only makes 60,000 a year, and we don't hav enough to buy anything nice, besides having a bigscreen TV and a 30$ DVD player. Oh wow, only $60,000 per year, a larger-than-average TV and a computer? Gosh, that only makes you an average middle class family well above the poverty line. i mean seriously... if i had a couple hundred thousand dollars, i'd be happy, not wanting any more, Great, go make yourself happy and get out there and earn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavlos Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Seeing as how you live in the UK and employment law is the same regardless of which country: were you fired or made redundant? If the former then you must have been fired under industrial misconduct. Can you think of any cases where you've done something to harm the company, or insult anyone else? Have you made any mistakes that could be construed as being done on-purpose? If you can't then you have a right to fight against unfair dismissal. It is on the onus of the company to prove your guilt, not for you to prove your innocence. So if you really wanted to pursue this (and I really wouldn't be bothered) you'd have to think long and hard about what the company could pin on you. I'd just go looking for a new job to be perfectly honest. If you want proper advice, I wouldn't go to a lawyer - go to a Job Centre and see what they advise. Meanwhile, find a job and if you can't get one go and claim your job-seeker's allowance and keep looking for one. Obligatory left-wing rant: Unemployment is not advisable - and no, the benefits are not too high (how anyone can stand to live on some of them I don't know) the minimum wage is too low to offer any incentive to get up and work. God(s) this country is going to the dogs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Varen Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Obligatory left-wing rant: Unemployment is not advisable - and no, the benefits are not too high (how anyone can stand to live on some of them I don't know) the minimum wage is too low to offer any incentive to get up and work. God(s) this country is going to the dogs... Also, don't become like Shameless Mick Philpott. He is someone who makes me ashamed to be British or live in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 It turns out that I don't have anything because I wasn't employed for a year, which basically means they can **** you over with a rusty spoon and there's not a thing you can do about it: Go legal system w000t! I can claim for wrongful dismissal as I wasn't given proper notice and no disciplinary procedure was taken...But that's only gonna get me like one month's wage, if that. But I'll just write to their head office and the MP and that afterwards anyways, lady ain't getting away that easy...And no this isn't just about getting sweet justice, I just don't want this to happen to anyone else and I'll do my best to make sure it doesn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I tried the legal thing once...didnt get far. Why - proper legal representation is expensive, and legal aid is often difficult to attain. I dont want to sound Zen or anything... Im still crazy mad at the lady that did this to me once, but the BEST way to deal with this type of setback is to pick yourself up and move on. One day you will find a job you love doing. Im in a clinical field as well(physiotherapy), and can definitely say that working in the private sector sucks.... you may get more money, but professional satisfaction and interpersonal relationships with colleagues suck... Working in the public sector, you may earn less, but you get a greater sense of positive contribution, and working in a great team with like minded goals. good luck man !! now, get back on that horse!! (the one with glasses!) mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I can claim for wrongful dismissal as I wasn't given proper notice and no disciplinary procedure was taken...But that's only gonna get me like one month's wage, if that. One month is one month. Hopefully you'll be in a new job well before that runs out. But I'll just write to their head office and the MP and that afterwards anyways, lady ain't getting away that easy...And no this isn't just about getting sweet justice, I just don't want this to happen to anyone else and I'll do my best to make sure it doesn't! OK, don't send your first draft. Write it and let it sit for a few days. Then go back and edit out anything that can possibly be viewed as angry/vindictive/vengeful. Keep it focused strictly on the problem, and not how much you hate the problem and hope the owner goes down the crapper. You have to keep it professional or your complaint will end up in the recycle bin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 I tried the legal thing once...didnt get far. Why - proper legal representation is expensive, and legal aid is often difficult to attain. I dont want to sound Zen or anything... Im still crazy mad at the lady that did this to me once, but the BEST way to deal with this type of setback is to pick yourself up and move on. One day you will find a job you love doing. Im in a clinical field as well(physiotherapy), and can definitely say that working in the private sector sucks.... you may get more money, but professional satisfaction and interpersonal relationships with colleagues suck... Working in the public sector, you may earn less, but you get a greater sense of positive contribution, and working in a great team with like minded goals. All the opticians here are private though, Eye tests can be done at the hospital, but getting your glasses has to go through an optician...And I'm not a qualified optom or anything lolz I've applied for another opticians but I doubt I'll hear anything...my luck = poo I thought I was finally starting to catch a break when I got into this job, how wrong I was... It'll take a while before we can get talks started though, at this point I would be satisfied with that one month and an apology, though I doubt I would even get that. I never wrote any angry stuff down though, just facts, but I might edit some stuff as we get further just to refine the letter a bit more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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