Darth333 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 ^ Omg, is that Astro *not* praising Shuttles???!!! It must be midlife crisis hitting him...first he says he's going Ati...then this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 *ominous music playing* Is this the end of things as we know it? What's next? Will he swap his UHD monitor for a lowly 1080p one??? *gasps* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 you must have misunderstood my post surely My SN27 AM2 mainboard in a shuttle P2 case will need some 'after market solutions' to make a 27cm card fit due to wires and bits in the way. Im actually investigating an interesting option using server tech known as wearout extenders. The card may fit that way without any dremel action reqd. I'd never sell my 1600p monitor, though I'll probably eventually upgrade our main TV(SHD only) to a 1080p one for the ps3.... no hurry though. I loves me shuttles, I just bought another G5 t'other day One of those luverly silver ones... theyre just so cool. I'll likely add one of those VFDs in future. This will be used as a htpc mainly. SHuttle has just released their very first models with hybrid mainboards, which will be interesting for us htpc-ers in particular. Im not jumping at them though, I think fusion is going to revolutionise media pcs....when fusion eventually arrives, that is! mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 Just for fun, here's a graph of an HD4870 beating a GTX 260 in 2 out of 4 benchmarks, and matching it's perfomance in Crysis, and technically only lower than the GTX 260 in the ARMA: Armed Assault benchmark (really, who plays that game anyways ) Here in the UK, the HD4870 is about £20 ($40) cheaper than the GTX260, on average! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Here in the US, Nvidia's board partners have lowballed their prices on the GTX260 so much that for now it's the better deal. Right now you can get the EVGA GTX260 Superclocked Edition for $225 after rebate at GougeEgg. These two cards are so evenly matched that it all comes down to which one is cheaper. EDIT: Oh yeah, and I'm hearing definite buzz about a GT200 die-shrink (55NM) due to come out soon after the release of the 4870X2. DAAMIT has really kicked nVidia in to high-gear damage control. This is a full-fledge, take-no-prisoners price war that we've got on our hands. Gotta love competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 I think it's about time the focus is now firmly and Keenly on the GPU side of a gaming setup. For the moment, cpu news is almost at a stand still as the world awaits the 4870X2 and nvidia's response. I think we should also spare a thought for the tech nerds at Qimonda -It's their GDDR5 wizardry that is the core of AMD's success. mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share Posted July 27, 2008 Yep, Ati and their new GPU line-up is AMD's saviour by far, cause their Phenoms alone would've spelled bankruptcy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 ....I think we should also spare a thought for the tech nerds at Qimonda -It's their GDDR5 wizardry that is the core of AMD's success..... lolz. straight after I wrote that I read a report spelling out Infineon have ditched their Qimonda subsidiary. Maybe GDDR5 wasn't enough for them to keep an kicking on mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 lolz. straight after I wrote that I read a report spelling out Infineon have ditched their Qimonda subsidiary. Maybe GDDR5 wasn't enough for them to keep an kicking on mtfbwya Astro you jinx!!! I'm gonna give them your address! Astro, what's your address? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 now here's a weird read. the 4850 2gb: quadruple the framebuffer, almost zero gains from the 512 mb version. WTFlolz is my take on it... have a squiz mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Im sure some people out there will be curious and/or pleased to learn that on August 12 nvidia will be releasing drivers to enable physX functionality on their GPUs I wonder if the enabling of these advanced physics capabilities will make TFU a possibility on PC? [/speculation] anyway. more info HERE mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted August 9, 2008 Author Share Posted August 9, 2008 LA being too lazy is all that's keeping TFU away from the PC, if it can be coded for a friggin' PS2... Official name for Nehalem revealed ^ Core i7??? Really doesn't improve my opinion for all things starting with a lower case "i" (with one major exception being the iPhone) Larrabee structure officially revealed! ^ All seems quite impressive, in theory, which is all it is just now I suppose... AMD's Fusion "Shrike" details leaked ^ Nothing too exciting though, but the move to 40nm and later 32nm can't come too soon for AMD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Heres some more high end GPU goodness from Hilbert at G3D Quad SLI does damage at 1600p, requires carbon offsets to assuage guilt at power usage nvidia PhysX detailed review and tests mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Good ole HH finally got a retail 4870X2 to play with, The new ubercard is here looks like RRP is USD 549. Will be interested to see nvidias 55nm response I think they should include folding numbers in benchmarking tests nowadays mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 @ Astro: FOLDING "A single HD 4870 scores 1783ppd while using Stanford's Folding@home GPU client and drew 349W while folding. Using a single instance of the folding client with the HD 4870 X2, only generated 1,237ppd while the system drew 334W. Clearly both cores weren't engaged and we couldn't, at the time of writing, convince an instance to run on each of the card's GPUs." From this review of the HD 4870X2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 AWESOME work negsun. I should have thought to check custompc, as they are pretty proud of their folding team Well, I have to say, the 280 is *sortve* starting to look like my next card..... My 8800GTS gives me nearly 4000 PPD. The other(perhaps more telling) factor is that the 280 seems to play happy with the shuttle smallforms PSU. The only people running the 4870X2 are those who have thrown full ATX PSUs into their shuttle, which defeats the purpose of a small footprint rig, IMO. Still, I will wait and see what nvidias response to the 4870X2 is mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 You're wise to wait, Astro. There's a 55NM version of the GTX280 due to be released very soon in an attempt to steal some of the 4870X2's thunder. It should boast higher clocks and lower temps and power draw. It will probably be reasonably priced in order to be competitive because it won't be able to beat the X2 in sheer performance. It won't have any of the multi-GPU scaling issues, however, and it will be the fastest single-GPU card out there. And, of course, with CUDA it will be a F@H monster. Definitely an option for those who dislike multi-GPU setups. I'm loving it. No matter what team you buy from, your options are going to be far better thanks to ATI's being competitive again. Since the 48xx series is selling like crack, I hope this means that DAAMIT isn't going to fold any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Yep. nvidia announced they will release the GTX 280+ during the upcoming nvision2008 expo Which will be running on August 25-27th. Not too far away at all As for AMD, its unlikely they will fold, though they are breaking off their manufacturing division. With R800 being announced as sitting on fusion CnGPUs, theres going to be alot riding on how fusion does. It could be a deal breaker for them. Then again, you have intel tinkering away on Larabee too Here's something you probably already know, being a CPU guru.. Intel developer forum shows Octo-core roadmap.. Looks like Octo-core will hit us at about the same time as Windows7. Does that mean Haswell is Dodeca-core(12)? Sometimes even I get the creeps thinking about where tech will be in 20 years time.. damn that Mr Moore was right Being a display-phile, all I really want is true 3d holographic projection! I know things like the heliodisplay exist, but they are a bit far from sitting on our desktops just yet... mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 I'd just be satisfied with an affordable OLED that blows LCD and plasma away. Everything I've read about Haswell points to its being a native octa-core, though all of these cores will be rendered superfluous in the absence of multi-threaded software to take advantage of them, niche products aside. Software developers really need to catch up with CPU development. We've only had multi-cored CPUs on the desktop for, what, 3.5 years now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 OLED isnt far away from hitting the shelves, but still a distance from being cheap I must admit, the low power footprint OLED is promising is appealing to those of us who like to keep our power bills trim ! Yep, its only animators, video editing/rendering folk that get the most out of all their cores(and folders too not to mention) Gaming will get there, slowly. The minimum specs for a game nudge up each year, but that optimised multi-core standard isnt here yet, and probably wont be until windows7(if then) The initial scuttlebut was that W7 was not going to support single core or x86 setups, but this was likely just a fanboy rumour It definitely would be the prod devs needed to start optimising for higher end setups, but from a marketing perspective, would make W7 less popular than even vista mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char Ell Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I just want to get a CPU that has a faster clock and can run more threads than a PS 3 and Xbox 360. So the hyperthreaded Bloomfield @ 3.3GHz or better is what I'm waiting for. I know it's not an apples to apples comparison but I want to have a single socket PC that can boast it has more processing power than the consoles. And personally I'm fine with the idea of Windows 7 only having multi-processor kernel support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 For the RAM-Fans amongst us... you may get excited at Gigabytes Core i7 prototype, unveiled at the recent nvision conference... 4 PCI-e x16 slots, up to 24GB of DDR3(Triple dual channel) I wonder if chainz has one on pre-order yet mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 For the RAM-Fans amongst us... you may get excited at Gigabytes Core i7 prototype, unveiled at the recent nvision conference... 4 PCI-e x16 slots, up to 24GB of DDR3(Triple dual channel) I wonder if chainz has one on pre-order yet mtfbwya Oh see, now you've gone and done it... because I figured out my vid card problem. It's a bad (as in poorly specced, wussy-fied, unable to support my parts) board. I AM now definitely in the market for a new mobo Hmm..... I wonder if they accept Mastercard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 For the RAM-Fans amongst us... you may get excited at Gigabytes Core i7 prototype, unveiled at the recent nvision conference... 4 PCI-e x16 slots, up to 24GB of DDR3(Triple dual channel) so, this is for the enthusiast that wants to play Mass Effect and UT3 simultaneously?? with that much available horsepower, you might be able to run Crysis on your monitor Astro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 so, this is for the enthusiast that wants to play Mass Effect and UT3 simultaneously?? with that much available horsepower, you might be able to run Crysis on your monitor Astro. The prototype in that linkie is actually the x-fire version. Im sure that with two 4870X2s(or 4x 4870s) on there, Crysis would be mince meat at 1600p. But then again, who wants to pay for such kit, and its associated power bills. Nope. Poppin a (most likely)280+ in my shuttle will be fine for me Eventually maybe an x4 phenom eventually. 3 cores can fold, one can hop in a hammock and keep a lazy eye on the fort My rig can take up to 16GB. I currently have just pulled a stick out and have 3GB. Even with all the folding/gaming etc, I never seem to use RAM at more than 40%, and thats on x64. As it stands, I cant think of what Id do with 16GB. I think 4GB sticks are out, but they are far from cheap... mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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