True_Avery Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Malak http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alek http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Revanchist http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Revan So, I'm trying to do timeline and fanfic research for my fic some time ago, and I see the Revan and Malak pages torn up quite a bit with what I assumed was Fanon. I waited awhile. Now I check tonight, and it is all still there plus more. May I ask what in the world is going on? What in the hell is this Revanchist bull, why is it so poorly written, and why has nothing been said about it? All I want is to do timelines peacefully, and I run into words and factions that look to be made up by a five year old. So please, someone tell me... is any of this "canon" at all, or just some pricks editing all the articles? Because this has got to be some of the poorest written lore I've ever seen, even if it is from a comic book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igos Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Wookipedia is correct. It is stated in The new Essential guide to the Force (Jedi VS Sith) that Malak and Revan are Alek and the Revanchist, respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordjedi Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 wow never knew that before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommycat Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 yep new book, Spoiler warnings on the pages, discussion side of it explained it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Very interesting... I know that the information stating that Revan is "The Revanchist" , and that Malak is "Alek" is new. Just last week I was browsing through numerous articles on Wookiepedia and this 'new' information was not there. But you know, Wookiepedia is a wiki... I personally don't have this new, The new Essential guide to the Force (Jedi VS Sith) , book, so I wouldn't know what it says on the subject. Either way I find this informaiton very interesting...it also seems to add up to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone L68362 Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Wait, is Malak also that Alek Squinquanimisuhuwgesusueiwatever guy or what? If that was his name when he was a Jedi, why is there a separate page for each of them? Revanchist isn't as bad as Squinblahblahblah but it still sounds pretty bad...and what the hell is it? Is it Revan, is it just a silly sounding title? What's going on?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommycat Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Revanchist is from the French word for revenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 there's little more than "they are them" in the The Essential guide to the Force book, it was pointless dropping the spoiler because they gave no other information. I'm disappointed Alek is Malak, (the revanchist went without saying really) because there is a lot of discrepancies in his character; Height, tattoos, his apprenticeship to Revan, his name... I mean come on, "Alek, you shall be now known as Malak"!? One thing to remember with Star Wars lately is, take everything at face value, When I first got the comics I was like "Alek... he must be a play on Malak's character ha ha... Oh wait he is Malak.... thats one Deep storyline?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 It's an ret-con of some sort. The games explicitly stated Revan and Malak were their real names. Now the 'nickname' of Revan is explained. He's the only one who want to do something about the war (i.e. take revanche, revenge, you name it.) thus the Media calls his little group the 'Revanchists' or, 'those who want to take revenge.' And their leader is called 'Revanchist' or 'Revan' for short. Seems logical....I mean, Obi-Wan was called 'The Negotiator' in the clone wars. Why couldn't Revan obtain a medi-inflicted nickname or callsign? And for Alek/Malak...another canon source claims he lost his Jaw (Malak=Latin for Jaw) in a practice (?) fight with his Master, Revan. So the Media might give him the nickname of Malak. Maybe a rising media pun because of his jaw problems? Anyways, it all makes perfect sense to me now. PS: But what about this: Alek WANTS Zayne Carrick (the lead char. of the Kotor-comic book series) on his side, the Revanchists. What does this mean for Zayne? He already has ties with Malak and the Revanchists (who later become the Sith) at this point in the series...I can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quanon Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 PS: But what about this: Alek WANTS Zayne Carrick (the lead char. of the Kotor-comic book series) on his side, the Revanchists. What does this mean for Zayne? He already has ties with Malak and the Revanchists (who later become the Sith) at this point in the series...I can't wait! Yeah ! There are even crazy theories , that Zayne might be the Exile . Though that may be correct , Zayne is already a sort of Exile , since all the other Jedi are hunting him Still I like these new Kotor Comics , so far I haven't been dissapointed . And there are little winks here and there to the games and such . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Avery, you know the people at LucasArts did this just to piss you off, rite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Skywalker Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Lol, too bad the Exile is a female. And i already know who did the jaw injury on him. Jarael finds out he's gone to the Dark Side and then cuts his jaw off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 ^^^ where did you get that from? I love the Comics, I order them from the US the second they come on sale, I just dislike the way they have gone about the Alek/Malak situation (So far) Alek is a really good character and so is Malak, I'll just wait to see how they merge the two... #24 should be out today, cant wait. @Quanon: I've also enjoyed the Game character and locale cameo's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltiades Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Comics are great, but I agree, the Alek/Malak thing is bad. I'm still doubting if that is what JJM wanted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Skywalker Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 It's predictable adamqd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 I wasn't calling you out, I was just wondering, because current continuity holds Revan responsible, I thought you may of found a new source http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Malak [WOOKIEEPEDIA]Darth Malak's entire jaw was removed by a lightsaber strike from Revan himself.[2] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Yes, Revan WAS the one who cut Malak's jaw off. Oddly, I don't think that it was in Revan's nature to cut off someones jaw, BUT I always keep telling myself that he is a Sith Lord, and that that is what Sith Lords do 'injure' people, whether it is through death or through suffering... IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 On another (interesting) note....the Kotor games gave is several events that haven't taken place in the comics yet... For example, I recall Ghadon Tekk saying something about these war against the Mandalorians in Kotor 1 dialogue: "If the Sith would be foolish enough to come down here, all gangs would rise up against them." But there is more....there is at least 1 Kotor partymember that we haven't seen yet. Revan met her personally. On Taris. I'm talking about Juhani! She claims Revan saved her life, and freed Taris of (some sort) of enemy. Revan was her inspiration. Also, where is Candarous? I think 'almighty' Revan will make his appearance in a few comics. Because we KNOW Cassus Fett went on to kill an Admiral in space battle, and because we know Revan went to 'free' Taris with his faction. Also, why is there no preview of the last KOTOR-comic available? It makes replaying Kotor or Kotor 2 worthwile. I really enjoy the game references! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Skywalker Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 I don't know, the back of a Hasbro figurine case doesn't seem as credible as my theory but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 I don't doubt your prophetic ability's Jason , but if something has the Lucas logo on it, we'll have to take there word for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 I don't know, the back of a Hasbro figurine case doesn't seem as credible as my theory but that's just me. What theory? There is proof that disproves your theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Skywalker Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 *sighs and covers face with hand palm* Whatever. Let's just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentScope001 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 I don't know, the back of a Hasbro figurine case doesn't seem as credible as my theory but that's just me. It does, it does! The back of a Hasbro figure is canon! Anything made by Star Wars is canon! Even the Ewok Adventures! They are canon! Did you know that there are 4 Force Gods on Endor, all with all-mighty powers?[/scarsam] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quanon Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 It does, it does! The back of a Hasbro figure is canon! Anything made by Star Wars is canon! Even the Ewok Adventures! They are canon! Did you know that there are 4 Force Gods on Endor, all with all-mighty powers?[/scarsam] OMG ! Where can I find these , why isn't there game about that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Lowering the tone again scope There's a lot of garbage...Real Garbage in the continuity, and there's nothing we can do about it. But what's a Force God got to do with Malak's Jaw injury? It's hardly an insane Idea to have Revan cut Malak's jaw off. It's so funny, People act Like "Well I wasn't consulted when this was made canon?!", Well your not gonna be! Dude's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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