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Huzzah, another article!

 

They are acquired through various quests given to you by the new Adventurer's Guild in Crossroad Keep.

 

>_<

 

On the bright side, though, the article mentioned there's going to be less high-powered loot left lying around. And it promises open-endedness with consequences for the player's choices!

 

Oh - and, as you can imagine, this freedom of choice opens up some diverse endings that are - ah... pretty different. I can't go into super detail, but what you do or don't do does have an effect on the world around you.

 

Fun new stuff all around, though I'm still disappointed the game is returning to the Sword Coast. Hopefully the most time will be spent in Chult.

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GameShark have run an interview with Rob McGinnis about Obsidian's latest expansion pack for Neverwinter Nights 2.

 

Storm of Zehir's storyline involves many economical aspects. One of the reasons that you're allowed free passage around Samarach is that you earn the patronage of the leader of a powerful merchant empire; otherwise the Samarachans would greatly restrict your movement. Also, when you return to the Sword Coast, you find that the economy has been greatly weakened by the war with the King of Shadows; whether you choose to exploit this or attempt to repair the economy is up to you.

 

The core of the system revolves around trading raw materials to towns and cities that you come across in exchange for trade bars, which are a kind of currency that is used by various merchant guilds that you will have to interact with to advance the story. The better your relations with these merchant guilds, the better the gear you will be able to purchase from them. You will also be able to set up merchant caravans between cities, but they will also be in danger of attack from roaming monsters.

 

It is eerily fitting that the game centres around a troubled economy...

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GameShark have run an interview with Rob McGinnis about Obsidian's latest expansion pack for Neverwinter Nights 2.

 

Interesting. The game sounds more like a strategy game than a (traditional) RPG from that description though. :) At least you can't blame them for recycling the same generic fantasy story over and over if this is any indication of how the game will be.

 

It is eerily fitting that the game centres around a troubled economy...

 

Sometimes you can almost think game designers are capable of predicting the future. Deus Ex is a good example of that too, set in a future marked by terrorist attacks and the subsequent paranoia/fear those create, and released just a year or two before that (sort of) became reality.

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It is eerily fitting that the game centres around a troubled economy...

 

Indeed. Sad irony that some of the most engaging 'pretend' storylines are taken from history. Just look how popular War games are. :indif:

 

Though I'm kind of startled that it has seeped into the fantasy world setting. I tend to want to play fantasy to get away from the real world :xp:

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IGN Storm of Zehir Hands on

 

We recently had the chance to play through a good chunk of the single-player campaign to see how all of these innovations work in practice and we've come away even more convinced that Storm of Zehir recaptures some of the magic of the original Baldur's Gate games and our old pen-and-paper sessions.
This is the kind of thing I like to hear. The original Baldur's Gate is still my favorite Forgotten Realms RPG so I will definitely enjoy this one if it brings back some of its greatness.
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...where did heck did One of Many pop out from? O_o

 

Out of the ending for evil PCs who stay in the City of Judgment, it looks like. It mentions One of Many moves to Chult and starts terrorizing the locals or gets worshiped as a god by them or somesuch.

 

I thought the events of Storm of Zehir were supposed to take place during and not after MotB, though?

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Well, that aint completly true. PS:T don't need a canon since it have nothing more build on it, if they would make a PS:T 2 that also was about the nameless one they would probaly make some of the things canon, like you don't end your game in drowned nation as the new silent king

 

Same with Fallout, it's canon that you in Fallout1 don't join the super mutants, so they have made some things canon. And id you read the manual to Fallout2 they have a short story about what happend in Fallout1, but if that story is canon i don't know

 

Almost all RPG i have played that have a expansion or a followup to it make some of the things canon. Apperntly it most be canon that you travled with Imoen, Minsc and Jaheria in BG1, otherwise they wouldent be with you at start in BG2

 

But the thing about Kotor is just weird, Obsidian designed the game so it wouldent mather if you went DS or LS in Kotor1. So making lsm canon was just a stupid move on their part imo

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About time with a evil cannon ending if thats the case

 

It's more indecisive that evil, it means a PC evil enough to devour Okku decided not to devour Akachi. More evil-turned-neutral-at-the-last-minute-of-the-game than anything else.

 

So making lsm canon was just a stupid move on their part imo

 

Has LucasFilm forced your in-game Revan to be LSM? I can hardly blame them for not wanting to make four separate versions of every KotOR comic or book or miniature or whatever other assorted media that later comes along.

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Note: This is a spoiler heavy note for PS:T and Fallout

 

Well, that aint completly true. PS:T don't need a canon since it have nothing more build on it, if they would make a PS:T 2 that also was about the nameless one they would probaly make some of the things canon, like you don't end your game in drowned nation as the new silent king

 

Same with Fallout, it's canon that you in Fallout1 don't join the super mutants, so they have made some things canon. And id you read the manual to Fallout2 they have a short story about what happend in Fallout1, but if that story is canon i don't know

 

Almost all RPG i have played that have a expansion or a followup to it make some of the things canon. Apperntly it most be canon that you travled with Imoen, Minsc and Jaheria in BG1, otherwise they wouldent be with you at start in BG2

 

But the thing about Kotor is just weird, Obsidian designed the game so it wouldent mather if you went DS or LS in Kotor1. So making lsm canon was just a stupid move on their part imo

 

Just because an expansion or follow up game assumes something doesn't make it "canon". In BG 2 with Imoen, Minsc(Dynaheir), Jaheira(Khalid) and you makes a full party in BG1. Yet the game assumes you know Edwin and Viconia, with cameos from the rest (2 dead, 2 in the tutorial, 1 in "disguise").

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GameSpy has previewed Storm of Zehir and collected their thoughts in this article.

 

Unfortunately, the early version of the game we were playing does illustrate the reason why most RPG gamers hate wandering monsters: They can be impossible to evade, something that probably needs to be tweaked before release. The annoyance of the wandering monsters is more than made up for with an interesting mini-game based on the overland map, in which the players can set up a trading empire by sending out trade caravans, guarding them from wandering monsters, and searching for monster parts for the buffed-up crafting system.
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The thing about the wandering monsters is a valid point. Maybe they should make it so that the wandering monsters keep their distance if you are of a much higher level than they are (give them survival instincts basically). One of the things that annoyed me about BG2 was the pointless random encounters with the cannon fodder bandits and whatnot.

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It looks interesting but I don't know if I'll get it and/or if I'll have the patience to play it. While I enjoyed MOTB's story a lot, two things made it a "do not replay" experience for me:

 

- the dialog system: yes, I admit the dialogs were good and well written and the story was great too. However, while I like the principle behind the influence system, I hate how it has been implemented: having to go through the same dialog branches ad nauseam just to see if you've finally gained enough influence to unlock a new conversation option with an npc is "annoying" to say the least (and to remain polite), especially when several of these conversation options give you insight on the main plot and what's going on. I admit, I am one of those persons who likes to explore dialog options and who tends to save before speaking to a party member so it might have amplified the "I've heard that at least 20 times already...time to switch the disc" feeling).

 

- the camera...dammit...we're in 2008...almost 2009, can't they fix that thing? The only way I could get a good angle was to constantly press the middle mouse button...I almost got a tendinitis in the end. The * on the numpad to switch camera modes wouldn't cut it for me.

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Storm of Zehir is out

 

First (mini) review is done. It contains slight spoilers.

 

Read it here.

 

Edit NWN2 patch is up to 1211549 which includes Storm of Zehir (1201541)

 

Bug Fixes

General
* Item costs in the game should match the costs in the toolset.
* Party members that have wands with 0 charges will now attack and use spells normally.
* When dropping an item, characters will now use the appropriate "drop" animation.
* Fixed an issue with opening two bags at once. You will now only be able to open one bag.
*The tool tip for the Player Chat menu item will now say Player Chat.
* Fixed an issue that caused freecam (console command) to not work properly.
* Made several corrections to the Doomgude class description.
* Snake's Swiftness, Mass will now affect the entire party.
* Hellfire Shield should now play an appropriate sound effect when activated.
* Hellfire Blast should now play an appropriate sound when activated.
* The description of Hellfire Shield has been changed to appropriately reflect it is an Area of Effect shield.
* Weapon Focus: Warmace will now be available to all qualified characters.
* The ability score descriptions in character creation have been changed to be more informative and reflect changes to the game.
* Fixed an issue that was causing certain AI behavior feedback to be displayed, even after being deactivated.
* When the game is paused, a much more noticeable message is displayed.
* Aura of protection will no longer provide "No Stacking" feedback.

Toolset
* Item costs in the toolset should match the costs in game.
* Changing checkboxes with multiple objects selected will no longer cause the toolset to crash.
* Changing dropdown lists with multiple objects selected will no longer cause the toolset to crash.
* Fixed an issue where resizing a creature may not have resized the collision spheres.
* Fixed an issue where the creature cache was not working properly.
* Dropdowns generated from 2DAs will no longer start with the wrong row selected.
* Redesigned the fields associated with setting Tints to no longer be collapsed controls.
* Fixed an issue that caused light and sound spheres to not render at their proper size.
* Fixed an issue that caused ceiling tint changes to not show up in the toolset.

New Features

General
* Playable races now have a proper stealth animation.
* Added in the AI functionality from TonyK's AI.
* In a peer-to-peer multiplayer session, the hosting player may now unpause the game unconditionally.

Toolset
* Added properties associated with the overland map, including camera positioning and the flag to mark the area as an overland map.
* Added camera positioning functionality settings in the area properties to support overland maps created by the community.
* Added a flag in the area properties to set an area to be an overland map.
* Added Campaign flags for Unrestricting NPC level ups (Lets them chose any class at level up)
* Added Campaign flags for Conversation Distance limit override.
* Added Campaign flags to turn off party-control character swapping for dialogs on a global level.
* Added Campaign flags to enable Party Creation and setting what the size of the party should be.
* Added Campaign flags to toggle the new death system.

Scripting
* PlaySound() now takes an optional parameter: bPlayAs2D. This parameter will default to FALSE. Setting this parameter to TRUE will force the engine to play the sound you specified as a 2D sound rather than 3D Positional audio, regardless of what the engine would normally do before.
* BeginConversation() now has a parameter that allows you to block the character's 'Greeting' VO from playing.
* Added a script function SetScrollBarValue()
* Added a script function SetPause()
* Added a script function GetPause()

Additional items that will be int he patch, but are not listed int he patch notes are:

* Added in the authentication system to support the Adventure Pack system.

* Fixed issues that would cause the Arcane Scholar of Candlekeep to crash on transition if they had certain items or metamagic spells in the quickbar.

* Use Magic Device will no longer supersede a character's caster class or level, when that caster level is higher than the UMD skill.

* Fixed an issue that caused high level items to be used when a character had a single point in Use Magic Device.

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A warning to those who are getting Storm of Zehir but are still playing Mask of the Betrayer. If you install SoZ it will mess up all the cinematic dialogs/cutscenes in MotB. The voiceover/lipsync will be gone and the game will race through the dialog nodes, making MotB rather unplayable.

 

The only solution seems to be to not install SoZ until you're done playing MotB. :)

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A warning to those who are getting Storm of Zehir but are still playing Mask of the Betrayer. If you install SoZ it will mess up all the cinematic dialogs/cutscenes in MotB. The voiceover/lipsync will be gone and the game will race through the dialog nodes, making MotB rather unplayable.

 

Ouch! I imagine that they will fix that...seems like a major issue :o

 

The one thing that seems to be lacking is any form of interaction from the cohorts. No snappy dialogue - no witty repartee. Even attempting to initiate a conversation gives you zip. Nothing. The cohorts are as silent as the stone heads at Easter Island.
It looks like if I ever buy it, I will miss Sand even more... :( I have always liked party members interactions.
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