RyuuKage Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 Ctrl_Alt_Del said: How's developing games for consoles easier? In fact, programmers are having some trouble with the PS3 Because consoles are uniform and static in terms of capability (though the PS3 is complicated because of its construction). PCs are as varied as their users, and without a consistent base, it's difficult to make anything for that platform. The PC version would have to be something like the PS2 version anyway in order to be useable on most PCs...i doubt PC users would like that.
Ctrl Alt Del Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 RyuuKage said: Because consoles are uniform and static in terms of capability (though the PS3 is complicated because of its construction). PCs are as varied as their users, and without a consistent base, it's difficult to make anything for that platform. The PC version would have to be something like the PS2 version anyway in order to be useable on most PCs...i doubt PC users would like that. Yes, PCs have multiple configurations, but there's a little something called "graphics options" that allows the player to adequate them to their machines.
GeneralPloKoon Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 Yes but consoles don't require that its the same game for everybody and nobody has to worry about a crash, game freeze, or the game being slow....the graphics may vary a bit though on different consoles.
M@RS Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 yes but PCs can be configured to match what the computer can and can't handle. if you want better graphics and your computer can handle it then they can have better graphics on a ps2 you can't do that it's stuck the way it is and I think you can only get mods on a computer right?
GeneralPloKoon Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 Unreal Tournament III for PS3 and now 360 can download mods off of PC players, this is a baby-step that will become something big. Alot of console games can have mods by hacking into the game, but its not the same.
Ctrl Alt Del Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 GeneralPloKoon said: Yes but consoles don't require that its the same game for everybody and nobody has to worry about a crash, game freeze, or the game being slow....the graphics may vary a bit though on different consoles. And? I don't see how's that a difficulty for the devs.
RyuuKage Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 Ctrl_Alt_Del said: Yes, PCs have multiple configurations, but there's a little something called "graphics options" that allows the player to adequate them to their machines. it's not all about graphics, check the 4th post Personally if i can't play it on max graphics it annoys me; my PC would very likely be able to run Force Unleashed (i still can't find a way to make this thing lag), but if a PC version were made, it wouldn't have DMM or Euphoria. Would PC users accept a port of the PS2 version? My assumption is no.
Prime Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 Ctrl_Alt_Del said: Yes, PCs have multiple configurations, but there's a little something called "graphics options" that allows the player to adequate them to their machines.It is waaay more complicated than that. There are great differences between the actual hardware that need to be considered on different PC platforms. There are also the interactions between different parts of a configuration that need to be considered. It isn't simply a matter of "turning things down."
M@RS Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 true... not all games can be played on a pc by just turning the graphics down, but the way TFU looks it should run on a pretty old machine, I mean mine was bought in 2004 and it runs Medal of Honor: Airborne so it should work on most of people's pcs
Boba Rhett Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 Prime said: It is waaay more complicated than that. There are great differences between the actual hardware that need to be considered on different PC platforms. There are also the interactions between different parts of a configuration that need to be considered. It isn't simply a matter of "turning things down." Hold up... You mean to tell me that the graphical options menu isn't a mystical configuration utility that through means of ancient magicks twists and contorts any game to run on my computer box? You're actually saying that various hardware builds and their respective interfaces to each other on any given motherboard somehow play a vital role in all this and that the developers would have to build in all that graphical scalability and find workarounds for any given number of quirks in the innumerable hardware configurations? I call shinannigans on you and your mumbo jumbo, good sir.
RyuuKage Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 M@RS said: true... not all games can be played on a pc by just turning the graphics down, but the way TFU looks it should run on a pretty old machine, I mean mine was bought in 2004 and it runs Medal of Honor: Airborne so it should work on most of people's pcs uhhh...which version of TFU we talking about here? lol
Rev7 Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 Boba Rhett said: There's about four pc gamers that would be happy with a PS2 port to PC. I don't think the PS2 players will even be happy with the PS2 version. That is true. I won't be all that happy with the PS2 version.
M@RS Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 RyuuKage said: uhhh...which version of TFU we talking about here? lol huh? when I said 2004 I meant my pc, I still don't get what u r talking about
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RyuuKage Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 M@RS said: huh? when I said 2004 I meant my pc, I still don't get what u r talking about no which version of TFU, lol
Gurges-Ahter Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 he was replying to this part of your statement, "but the way TFU looks it should run on a pretty old machine", which is contrary to how most (all?) view the technology the TFU utilizes on the PS3 and 360.
Prime Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 Boba Rhett said: Hold up... You mean to tell me that the graphical options menu isn't a mystical configuration utility that through means of ancient magicks twists and contorts any game to run on my computer box? You're actually saying that various hardware builds and their respective interfaces to each other on any given motherboard somehow play a vital role in all this and that the developers would have to build in all that graphical scalability and find workarounds for any given number of quirks in the innumerable hardware configurations? I call shinannigans on you and your mumbo jumbo, good sir. You're just mad that I blew your ****ing mind!
Gurges-Ahter Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 @ M@RS: Ryuu wasn't commenting on which PC version you're using - he was asking what version of TFU you were talking about, since you said it can run on "pretty much any old machine"... most would disagree with that assertion.
M@RS Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 I see... I was talking about a PC and why TFU should be made for it
RyuuKage Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 There we go, lol. Yeah, I could run TFU on my machine (if 360 can, mine can), but i still don't really care for a PC version. It's mission-based and extremely detailed, so what could people really mod? Plus they'd have to enable DMM or Euphoria for certain modded objects or characters. Plus i just have never really been into action-ey games on PC (RTS or RPG mostly).
M@RS Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 I love action games for pc, i dont have a single console and I want TFU when comes out
M@RS Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 a little help here for JO a bit off topic http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?p=2469265#post2469265
M@RS Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 check this vid out it shows a demonstration of DMM and Euphoria http://www.tv.com/uservideos/?action=video_player&id=cCE1kjX45bgEsjHY
Cyne Posted May 29, 2008 Author Posted May 29, 2008 M@RS said: check this vid out it shows a demonstration of DMM and Euphoria http://www.tv.com/uservideos/?action=video_player&id=cCE1kjX45bgEsjHY Yeah, it's truly a shame that us devoted PC enthusiasts who have been fans since the beginning, won't have the opportunity to bring out TFU's full potential such as DMM and Euphoria, because it would be a "Watered Down Experience" on a PC :sarcasm:. It's too bad a company like Lucas Arts has to be greedy. Cyne
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