Inyri Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Still, it's kind of ridiculous to resort to arguments like McCain is death prone (we all are)It certainly isn't ridiculous. We could all die any time, but most of us aren't quite as close to dying of old age as he is. Look at a picture of Clinton or Bush at their inauguration and then look at a picture of them now and see what the presidency does to you. I'm not certain McCain would survive that kind of radical aging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Even after being shot, Reagan survived two terms. McCain's mother lives into her 90's. He may well be robust enough to survive one term intact, nevermind 2. Besides, given that some people might want to assassinate BO if he wins, maybe he should step down for the good of his country to avert a crisis should such a person/people succeed. Point is, the whole death argument is nothing more than "scare tactics", especially when wedded to the pov that SP is nothing more than basically a brain dead bimbo. Do you remember the old joke about DQ being GB's insurance policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyri Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 The only thing that scares me is the idea that Palin has even a remote chance to be president. Because it is possible that McCain won't survive his term, whether you would like to admit it or not. Sure, Obama might not either for various reasons, but Biden doesn't scare the crap out of me like Palin does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 LOL Racism. What a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 The only thing that scares me is the idea that Palin has even a remote chance to be president. Because it is possible that McCain won't survive his term, whether you would like to admit it or not. Sure, Obama might not either for various reasons, but Biden doesn't scare the crap out of me like Palin does. What are the chances of another JFK, but in this day and age? Well, Bush did almost die over a pretzel. We would have been the laughing stock of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astor Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Biden doesn't scare the crap out of me like Palin does. She shoots living creatures for fun - she clearly thinks nothing of slaughtering animals, so someone with such a cavalier attitude to life (any life) worries me a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyri Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Honestly if no one shot Bush I don't know that anyone will bother with Obama. >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Obama didn't select Dick Cheney as his running mate. "President Dick Cheney" was pretty much the ultimate life insurance policy for Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Honestly if no one shot Bush I don't know that anyone will bother with Obama. >.> 2 words: President Cheney EDIT: damn, Achilles is reading my braaaiinz.. or maybe I'm reading his.. muwahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litofsky Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 2 words: President Cheney Those two words are enough to make any assassin rethink his or her actions. I should think that the same goes for "President Palin." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I have it from reliable sources that if McCain is elected, Death has agreed to take a four year hiatus out of fear of Sarah Palin with a "nucular" football. I, personally, would be more afraid of her Education Policy, but both are pretty frightening. PS: @ChAiNz - sick minds think alike, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 I have it from reliable sources that if McCain is elected, Death has agreed to take a four year hiatus out of fear of Sarah Palin with a "nucular" football. I, personally, would be more afraid of her Education Policy, but both are pretty frightening. Its three o'clock, the red phone rings, and a crisis starts to unfold. Palin replies to the caller, "Quick get the shotguns, the buck shots, and the horses." A slight pause lingures, and the other caller replies, "What does terrorism have to do with deer hunting?" Its three o'clock, do you know where Palin's mind is? Brought to you by the NRA. "Because she didn't buy our type of bullets." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinchyB Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Very Sensitive Issue: What If Obama Loses? African-Americans thought he had no chance—then they started to believe. Now they fear defeat. I'm late to the party I know so please forgive... To quote my family (who are african american), "There is no way an African American well be elected president, but I'm still going to vote for him." They honestly think that America isn't ready for a minority leader which kinda saddens me a bit as I disagree, but I'm a different generation. So, IMO...he loses and expectations are met...he wins and it exceeds expectations. I'm not even going to bother with the article as I consider it sensationalist journalism as they are trying to create an issue that doesn't really exist IMO. Besides this is irrelevant... It will take a miracle for McCain to win. Obama has a 349 to 174 electoral lead... I'm not worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 2 words: President Cheney EDIT: damn, Achilles is reading my braaaiinz.. or maybe I'm reading his.. muwahahaha What, Cheney's NOT the prez?!?! Was under the impression that Dick was the dark lord himself and Bush merely the figurehead. (sort of like he was in TX, according to mimartin) So.....besides not being pro-choice/abortion and a republican, what do you people REALLY have vs SP? She didn't do as well as she should have in two hack interviews? She doesn't see the federal govt as the solution to life's problems? Mostly, the criticism/cheap shots here seem to be of the p diddy variety or merely just vague fear mongering. Just trying to understand what's really going on in people's heads here. Once again, though, FTR I think both tickets are less than desirable. So, please don't bother responding (anyone) to this question if you're going to just resort to tired old cliches like "she's an idiot" or something similiarly supercilious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyri Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Is "she doesn't seem to know anything" supercilious? Because I'm sure the slang for that would be "she seems to be an idiot" which, unfortunately, is how I feel about her based on various statements, interviews, and debates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 What do you base that on? She obviously knows enough to run a state. Which particular statements do you refer to? Did you watch any other interviews besides Couric and Gibson? Or are you letting any internal bias get in the way? Actually watched the entire veep debate and conclude there was no clear winner on either side. Did she answer all the questions? No. But I'm used to politicains never answering direct questions with direct answers, from either side of the aisle. Or, as both also did, giving an answer that wasn't entirely correct. Nothing new there either. She, like Obama in the 1st debate, was given the edge by the pundits b/c both parties (BO & SP) survived w/o any major stumbling. Now, I do agree with your earlier statement that debates between people of either side don't have to result in personal cheap shots and embittered feelings. Don't have a bf (that'd be gay, not a slam, just a fact), but don't have trouble relating to liberal women either. I don't often agree with them, but I don't go away hating them either b/c of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astor Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I dislike her for several reasons, mainly the fact she said she didn't 'want to judge gay people' yet then voted against health benefits for them. I may have issues with that lifestyle, but I wouldn't treat people who follow it differently to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I dislike her for several reasons, mainly the fact she said she didn't 'want to judge gay people' yet then voted against health benefits for them. I may have issues with that lifestyle, but I wouldn't treat people who follow it differently to others. Uh I've heard those stories by the mainstream media, however as people may have noticed the mainstream media has demonstrated that can't report even remotely be objective when it comes to Governor Palin putting it mildly. She shoots living creatures for fun - she clearly thinks nothing of slaughtering animals, so someone with such a cavalier attitude to life (any life) worries me a lot. Last I checked she eats the animals she shoots, it isn't just for fun, it's dinner. I know quite a few people whom are hunters that would take what you said a little personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Uh I've heard those stories by the mainstream media, however as people may have noticed the mainstream media has demonstrated that can't report even remotely be objective when it comes to Governor Palin putting it mildly.Prove their statements wrong instead of just dismissing them because you think they're biased kthx. Last I checked she eats the animals she shoots, it isn't just for fun, it's dinner. I know quite a few people whom are hunters that would take what you said a little personally.She doesn't live in the middle of nowhere anymore, she's the governor of ****ing Alaska. She doesn't need to go out and kill things, she does it for sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Prove their statements wrong instead of just dismissing them because you think they're biased kthx. Uh huh, have you looked at the Reuter's photos that tried to make it look like she was a stripper or something... She doesn't live in the middle of nowhere anymore, she's the governor of ****ing Alaska. She doesn't need to go out and kill things, she does it for sport. Maybe she has a taste for moose and wants to make sure it is fresh, I also heard she apparently laid off the cook because she thought it was a waste of taxpayer money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astor Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Maybe she has a taste for moose and wants to make sure it is fresh, I also heard she apparently laid off the cook because she thought it was a waste of taxpayer money. So she's never heard of a supermarket then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 So she's never heard of a supermarket then? Still I don't see what your problem is with her preferring to hunt over shopping at the supermarket. Least she has better aim than Cheney. Again though I think the better question would be what happens if Obama loses and what happens if he wins. Either way we're probably looking at a lot of anger, one side due to the fact of rampant fraud that has been discovered, the other would be accusing people of being racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Has anyone ever considered that hunters are simply part of the food chain and that hunting is actually part of responsible stewardship of the land? Without natural predators (which have been practically wiped out here in the states) hunters become essential because the populations of certain species such as deer grow to the point that there is not enough food to sustain them, especially through the winter. So use some of your vaunted empathy for the animals in question, put yourself in the deer's hooves and ask yourself, "Would I rather be shot, or starve to death?" To me, it's kind of a no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 That would be all well and good except that she shoots "natural predators" from helicopters too Again, not that any of this has anything to do with her ability (or lack thereof) to lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I'd rather a hunter be in the White House than a man that is tied to an organization that commits voter fraud. When Obama met with ACORN leaders in November, he reminded them of his history with ACORN and his beginnings in Illinois as a Project Vote organizer, a nonprofit focused on voter rights and education. Senator Obama said, "I come out of a grassroots organizing background. That's what I did for three and half years before I went to law school. That's the reason I moved to Chicago was to organize. So this is something that I know personally, the work you do, the importance of it. I've been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work.” http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGC7zm On his own website no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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