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[Astor]

So far no one has proven any unethical actions by moderators, but yet I keep hearing it.

 

Curious.

 

One could argue that seeing as you are a moderator, you wouldn't see any...

 

I'm going to jump in here. If I'm reading SD's posts correctly, I believe he is refering to how the forums are moderated. We have visitors who are liberal, but we also have a high number of moderators that are liberal. There is an inbalance of moderation based upon post edits, deletions, and so forth. Are the moderators editing conservative posts more so than liberals? Are the moderators fueled by emotions, and do they act upon those emotions with bans, editting, or closures?

 

As i've said, a moderators personal feelings, be it political, moral or religious shouldn't (and haven't, as far as I have seen) enter in to things - people may feel sore over being moderated however, and I think that this is a contributing factor.

[El Sitherino]

I'd like to note for the record, I've infracted more liberals than conservatives. Mostly because I'm too lazy to infract.

I tell the others about problem posts and they tend to infract, I wait for the bans.

[Web Rider]

I'd like to just say, as a liberal who's been infracted for times when I was clearly out of line, the mods are definitely not infraction people based on political affiliation, but for clear rules violations.

 

If you don't think you've broken the rules, re-read them before you get upset. They apply to everyone, so it's good to know them.

[Marius Fett]

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As I mentioned earlier I doubt anyone with no interest in the topics would want to spend spend hours carefully reading through hundreds of long posts in their spare time just to ensure they conform to the forum rules. Moderators here tend to be people who are particularly active in the forum section they get assigned as moderator in. If being made a moderator means you aren't allowed to participate any more, who would want to accept such a position?

 

Well, if a person was someone who would merely like to help out, then I doubt there would be much of an issue.

 

Reading through other peoples posts on a topic that you may not normally have interest in may actually help develop an interest and/or an opinion in the topics.

[Astor]

Well, if a person was someone who would merely like to help out, then I doubt there would be much of an issue.

 

Reading through other peoples posts on a topic that you may not normally have interest in may actually help develop an interest and/or an opinion in the topics.

 

But then, as one's opinion develops, they would be subject to the very same allegations of 'bias' that we're discussing now.

[Web Rider]

But then, as one's opinion develops, they would be subject to the very same allegations of 'bias' that we're discussing now.

 

Exactly, as humans, we're bound to have opinions on everything, and whats the saying? Opinions are like asses and everyone's stinks.

 

So obviously the solution is robots. Robots neither have asses nor opinions.

 

Whats the ETA on Skynet again?

[igyman]

If being made a moderator means you aren't allowed to participate any more, who would want to accept such a position?

Agreed. If someone's willing to become a mod, it doesn't mean they're willing to stop being ordinary members. Nobody wants to be a member of a forum just because he's supposed to do a job, people also want to be able contribute to various topics.

[Marius Fett]

But then, as one's opinion develops, they would be subject to the very same allegations of 'bias' that we're discussing now.

 

Maybe. Maybe not.

 

Maybe it wouldn't lead to developing an opinion.

 

In fact, now that I think on it, the possibility of developing one solely based on the arguements of others does seem kinda unlikely..

 

Still, regardless of the "possibility" I think getting a mod with no political/religious biases might be something worth looking into.

[El Sitherino]

Except we have mods very much like that and people still complain about persecution.

 

Let's face it, no one is going to be happy with infractions being given. And as they only see what happens on their side, they'll complain about bias. We've had this discussion many times before. The only reason this thread was even made was because there were feelings that moderators weren't doing their job. So perhaps we'll just tighten the reigns on everyone.

[Yar-El]

Except we have mods very much like that and people still complain about persecution.

 

Let's face it, no one is going to be happy with infractions being given. And as they only see what happens on their side, they'll complain about bias. We've had this discussion many times before. The only reason this thread was even made was because there were feelings that moderators weren't doing their job. So perhaps we'll just tighten the reigns on everyone.

Emotional response? People don't agree with you, so you threaten with tighter execution of already established law. Again, are you a healer, or are you a divider?

 

We can make the argument that this thread was intended to weed out people who disagree, so that they can be banned or infractions could be given. I like you El Sitherino. Just let everyone vent for now. Its good for the release of tension. Kavar's conor is filled with tension. Let them have one thread to let it all out. Sometimes its good to bellow out.

 

See post #49. I kind of agree with you.

[Litofsky]

Emotional response? People don't agree with you, so you threaten with tighter execution of allready established law. Again, are you a healer, or are you a divider?

I direct your question at you, Yar-El.

 

We can make the argument this thread was intended to weed out people who disagree, so that they can be banned or infractions could be given. I like you El Sitherino. Just let everyone vent for now. Its good for the release of tension.

We could, but most of us won't. We just want to view current events, debate our points, and have a friendly exchange of ideas and ideals. I hope you want the same.

[igyman]

We've had this discussion many times before. The only reason this thread was even made was because there were feelings that moderators weren't doing their job. So perhaps we'll just tighten the reigns on everyone.

I was under the impression the purpose of this thread was not to prove or disprove moderator culpability, but rather to suggest ways that would further ensure the continuation of honest moderatorship.

 

If you feel tightening the reigns is the solution, I'm all for it and so should be any other rule abiding member. If you know how to control yourself from breaking the rules, then you needn't fear tighter application of said rules.

[Yar-El]

I direct your question at you, Yar-El.

We could, but most of us won't. We just want to view current events, debate our points, and have a friendly exchange of ideas and ideals. I hope you want the same.

I'm with you on that. (see post #49) Sometimes an election can bring out frustration, and forums such as these can breed stress. Having a thread like this one will help people shift through the emotions. Maybe we can get out our frustrations here, so that some of the forum stress is relieved. Letting the moderators know your feeling is acceptable behavior. As long as you exercise it in a controlled manner, I don't see what is wrong with saying, "Hello! What just happened? Why?"

[mimartin]

I know this will not seem like constructive criticism, but it is. This entire thread reminds me of an old saying “don’t let the inmates run the asylum.”

 

The staff reserves the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread or post for any reason deemed necessary.[/Quote] This tells me all I need to know about the staff’s involvement with my post. By participating in this forum, I understand and accept that they have this right. If I didn’t accept they had that right I would not post here.

[Yar-El]

You are right. Its all up to those in charge. They were just kind enough to ask our opinion.

[Q]

The staff reserves the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread or post for any reason deemed necessary.

This tells me all I need to know about the staff’s involvement with my post. By participating in this forum, I understand and accept that they have this right. If I didn’t accept they had that right I would not post here.

Exactly. Which is why people shouldn't bitch and moan about bias or favoritism, whether they do indeed exist here or not. Think about where you are.*

 

 

 

 

 

*Obama&socialismFTW.com