Yar-El Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Joe Biden Warns About Obama Becoming President NEW Oct 20, 2008 - Joe Biden: “We’re gonna have an international crisis to test the mettle of [Obama]“ Republican Resource NEW Oct 20, 2008 - Biden to Supporters: "Gird Your Loins", For the Next President "It's Like Cleaning Augean Stables" ABC News Resource NEW Oct 20, 2008 - Joe Biden Warns America And The World About An Obama Presidency You-Tube Recording I keep finding stuff. I walk away for a few days thinking no more. Something suddenly pops up for debate. Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. And he’s gonna have to make some really tough — I don’t know what the decision’s gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it’s gonna happen. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate. [All I could find anywhere that covered his speech was that he mentioned the Middle East and Russia]. And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you - not financially to help him - we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right. Rudy Giuliani's Follow Up to Biden's Comments: "He Was Right in the First Place That Barack Is Not Ready" Gateway Pundit Blog with Video Recording Biden was not confident in Obama's experience and that he wasn't confident that his running mate would be able to lead in a crisis either Biden's Comments During the Primary - McCain Ad With Joe Biden You-Tube Recording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Rider Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Joe needs to keep his mouth shut. But he said it, so it can't be taken back. When questioned on it, he's clearly explained that this applies to anyone else in the Oval Office as well. Unlike McCain's attack ad saying that this mysterious event that may not even happen doesn't have to happen if you elect McCain, with the current financial crisis, the War in Iraq and Afghanistan and various other problems around the world and in the nation, ANYONE who gets elected is going to have their mettle tested. I should think this would be rather obvious. There's no way that electing Nader instead of Obama or McCain or McCain instead of Obama is going to magically make the testing of the president not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 It sounds like a declaration of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Rider Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 It sounds like a declaration of war. It sounds like nacho cheese friday. It could be anything, it could be nothing. Biden could be wrong. What it sounds like is irrelevant since it hasn't happened and there are no specifics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litofsky Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I think that Biden just means that the world will test Obama right away (i.e., the financial crisis, etc), and not that we're going to war, Yar. I do believe that you're taking it a bit out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I think that Biden is just an idiot who says whatever comes into his mind. Seriously, the man is a walking gaffe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I think that Biden is just an idiot who says whatever comes into his mind.I like that aspect of him sometimes. http://www.wftv.com/video/17790025/index.html e: he looked like he barely held back his contempt for that woman so i guess he doesn't say everything that comes to his mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I think that Biden is just an idiot who says whatever comes into his mind. Seriously, the man is a walking gaffe.I could easily say the same thing about McCain and Palin, but hey, who wants to get into that debacle again? Besides, whoever does get into the White House will be met with an enormous amount of issues and crises. They will be tested, no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW01 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Looking at the quotation, I did not take any sort of martial implication from it. I agree with Litofsky, that it is most likely a reference to the deepening economic crisis, or any number of other crises that America faces - oil dependence and supply, tough decisions over Iraq and Afghanistan, etc. 'we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him.' That seems to be more a call for unity within the country than anything else, as America is undoubtedly facing difficult times economically among other things. The Government is going to require support to get through it. 'Biden was not confident in Obama's experience and that he wasn't confident that his running mate would be able to lead in a crisis either' Admittedly, not the wisest thing for him to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM This is a whole new ballgame now in response to the interview seen above the Obama campaign has barred a media outlet from having any contact with them. http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/obama-campaign-cuts-interviews-florida-tv-station/ Honestly the questions the reporter asked are ones that I wanted to ask and the reasons why I'm extremely concerned about Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubMVideos without a blatant bias would be appreciated. In fact, I don't think using anything from YouTube would be better. http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/obama-campaign-cuts-interviews-florida-tv-station/ Honestly the questions the reporter asked are ones that I wanted to ask and the reasons why I'm extremely concerned about Obama. I concur, that question was ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 Videos without a blatant bias would be appreciated. In fact, I don't think using anything from YouTube would be better. What your saying is that YouTube's recordings are not proof? :lol: Catch people on video is not factual? :lol: Think really hard before replying. :lol: Remember I'm not laughing at you - I'm laughing with you. :lol: I concur, that question was ridiculous. Read his statement again. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Videos without a blatant bias would be appreciated. In fact, I don't think using anything from YouTube would be better. When I'm referring to the actual interview then it's entirely relevant. She wouldn't have had those questions to ask if Biden and Obama hadn't said the things they had earlier. I concur, that question was ridiculous. In your opinion you mean, in my opinion these questions are entirely relevant when you throw Obama's associations into the mix, some of whom are known Marxists. It ties together into a narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 What your saying is that YouTube's recordings are not proof? :lol: Catch people on video is not factual? :lol: Think really hard before replying. :lol: Remember I'm not laughing at you - I'm laughing with you. :lol: I'm saying that it's been distorted. Any news agency can show the facts, but it's the way that it is presented is what really shapes the minds of viewers. The fact that the interviewer began attacking Biden from the get go is what made me realize that she was intentionally trying to put words into his mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 I'm saying that it's been distorted. Any news agency can show the facts, but it's the way that it is presented is what really shapes the minds of viewers. The fact that the interviewer began attacking Biden from the get go is what made me realize that she was intentionally trying to put words into his mouth. I can understand not holding any value to edited interviews on YouTube. Interviews that are unedited on YouTube are good resources. I try to find credible versions. Sometimes you have to click through them to find whole interview clips. I agree it can get hard sometimes. I had to bust your chops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I'm saying that it's been distorted. Any news agency can show the facts, but it's the way that it is presented is what really shapes the minds of viewers. The fact that the interviewer began attacking Biden from the get go is what made me realize that she was intentionally trying to put words into his mouth. So are you admitting the Mainstream Media has been in the tank for Obama now? Even Dan Rather has pointed out a double standard. This reporter just brought up what Joe Biden said, and he got mad because it was tough questions. The liberal media constantly tries to put words in Republicans' mouths, I think it's perfectly fair for a liberal's own statements to be used against them. Anyways the questions asked are legit because Obama did work with/for ACORN, he did give the statements that were marxist, and he has associates that are Marxist. Top that off Biden made the statement about the international incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 So are you admitting the Mainstream Media has been in the tank for Obama now?No, that is just your own insinuation. Just because an interviewer has shown common courtesy and politeness does not mean that they're associated with the "interviewee" in any way. I pointed out that the interview wasn't fair from the start, all due to the interviewer's own rhetoric. Anyways the questions asked are legit because Obama did work with/for ACORN, he did give the statements that were marxist, and he has associates that are Marxist. Top that off Biden made the statement about the international incident.Any sort of solid proof would be welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan7 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 The liberal media constantly tries to put words in Republicans' mouths, I think it's perfectly fair for a liberal's own statements to be used against them. You do realise both sides always do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 You do realise both sides always do this? I'm well aware of that, but thus far Obama is the only one to banish a news station from interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 You do realise both sides always do this? We haven't seen too much of the massmedia asking Obama the tough questions. Seeing someone who will ask is pretty shocking; however, you are correct in your general analysis. Both sides play the bias game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I'm well aware of that, but thus far Obama is the only one to banish a news station from interviews.Does preventing pretty much all media from doing anything more than taking Sarah Palin's picture not count as banishing them from interviews? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarfieldJL Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Does preventing pretty much all media from doing anything more than taking Sarah Palin's picture not count as banishing them from interviews? However John McCain does get interviewed by them, so there is a pretty big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Rider Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM This is a whole new ballgame now in response to the interview seen above the Obama campaign has barred a media outlet from having any contact with them. I watched that video before this topic was made, and those are quite obvious loaded questions. They're not even written to fly under the radar, they're just blatant and obvious misconstructions of what's been said. You know, I wouldn't talk to people who were that disrespectful to me. Would you approve if I sad to McCain: "Sen McCain, you've said you would never talk with our enemies, when do you plan a nuclear strike for Iran?" IMO, that's pretty rude, condescending, and insulting. McCain's not an idiot, neither is Biden or Obama, and asking these sorts of questions are the kind of thing that would make the average person walk out on you. It only shows you're not interested in actual facts, you're only interested in twisting words. Not to mention, Biden was not "angered" in the video. Upset? Incredulous? sure. Angry? Not hardly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I'd approve of a question like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Rider Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I'd approve of a question like that. While I'm aware of that and your particular political leanings, that's not a question McCain could simply voice agreement to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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