IG-64 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Allow me to turn your attention to this: http://whatsinthebox.nl/ It appears to be a viral marketing campaign. Watch the video, you might notice that it is quite spiffy. You might also notice that it is a lot like Half-Life. It even uses the same combine sounds, and one part looks like it might even have been rendered in the source engine. But the really interesting stuff to me are the references to Half-Life being paired with references to Lost, such as the Numbers being listed next to the term "SYSTEM FAILURE." Now, on the page with the video, there is a small link that takes you here: http://babel-research.eu/ First of all, scroll to the bottom of the page. There, you will see three logos: The Black Mesa logo from Half-Life, the Aperture Science logo from Portal, and the Hanso Foundation logo from Lost. I also want to note that the video personally reminded me of the first trailer for Cloverfield, which was also taken from the perspective of a character (albeit through a handheld camera). The trailer was untitled, and no mention was made that it was a movie, leaving you to guess what it actually was. If I were to make a guess, I would say that they're doing the same thing here, only they're presenting it as a movie (see the poster text at the bottom) which it might not actually be (the poster text appears to be BS). Cloverfield was created by J.J. Abrams. So was Lost. If J.J. Abrams is making a Half-Life movie, I will s**t bricks. I really hope that this is official, as anything related to Half-Life at this point will make me giddy. The fact that the video appears to be somewhat high budget gives me hope. Sure, it's not perfect, and it's not unheard of for something like that to be produced on a relatively low budget, but it's a good sign that a lot of effort seems to have been put into it (including a music score, apparently). Also, if this isn't official, then I expect lots of suing will probably happen. For now we can only wait. The progress is being tracked independently by this guy: http://wikibruce.com/2009/04/a-big-box-of-babel-research/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Like you said, I really hope this is official. I would rather it be related to HL2:E3, but the multiple Lost references have me thinking otherwise. Either way, any information this may divulge will lead to this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 If J.J. Abrams is making a Half-Life movie, I will s**t bricks. Oh dear lord. Just the thought of this has set my nether regions all a quiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_hill987 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 That looks nothing like Half-Life. You might as well say it looks something to do with Microsoft because of the red ring on the box. It is someone's student project and they have used HL2 sounds as filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I could understand if you're saying the video is someones student project. But the websites themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Dravis Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Hate to say it but anyone with a little knowledge of flash and html could have made those pages. I heard what sounded like John Williams chase music when the helicopter was shooting at the guy in the trailer-- anyone recognize that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderQ Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 This looks extremely interesting....but I still don't know what it could be...it keeps leaning in multiple directs...Half-life...John Williams...Lost...it's going all over the place....I wonder what it is really? Wait....the tower with the clouds around it makes it look like Half-life...only too much so...but then everything else....??? BAH! I give up, I'll just have to wait... Wait, now that I've watched it a second time, I'm pretty sure it's Half-Life. EDIT: After checking out the Babel website, I'm pretty sure it has something to do with "Tower of Babel," it's a possibility... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 Hate to say it but anyone with a little knowledge of flash and html could have made those pages. That's usually what viral marketing pages look like though. I also hate to say it, but you might be right. Any way this could go is just too good to be true. The video looks great, but probably not quality enough to be official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I also hate to say it, but you might be right. Any way this could go is just too good to be true. The video looks great, but probably not quality enough to be official. This was my conclusion, they just did not look professional enough. Plus the ad on the video was a giveaway, as well as seeing the same name over and over in the credit bit on the webpage under the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkonium Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 A crossover between Lost and Half-Life? That'd be interesting. If Babel Research is a collaboration between Black Mesa, Aperture Science, and The Hanso Foundation, then my guess is they were attempting to use dimensional manipulation as an alternative power source, with disastrous results. I also noticed that they made direct use of voiceovers from Half-Life 2, such as Civil Protection and the Overwatch, along with use of music from LOST and I'm guessing Star Wars. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWally Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Here is what I have to contribute with my limited knowledge: If that was a student project, it was a ridiculously expensive student project. Sure, some of the things look like they could have been half-assed, like the guns and some of the science equipment, etc. But think about this for a moment . . . you know how hard it would be to completely empty out a portion of a city that size of people and place all the cars there and trash it like they did? Unless he had an entire small town in on the effort, which I highly doubt. Additionally, despite what they studios want you to think, Cloverfield wasn't shot with a kid's hand-held minicam, but one of these: http://gizmodo.com/347463/the-real-camera-behind-cloverfield At the time of filming that could have cost upwards to $45,000. The one used in this trailer looks like it could be even more expensive (it actually appears to be mounted on the man's head, I doubt that could be faked). I don't know many colleges that will shell out 45 grand for a camera, much less give it to a film student for his school project. Additionally, if it isn't actually Halflife related, then as someone else said then they will be facing lawsuits up the wazoo. As for the Williams-esqe music, you might be right, but it's also easily possible that the rights could have been bought. Furthermore, lots of music sounds like John Williams. He stole from just about every famous historical composer, after all. The LOST references definitely make me want to believe IG's theory, and it definitely seems like something JJ Abrams would consider. If that's the case, then I too will **** bricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Nice idea and all, but it's just a guy wanting to show off his sweet Flash skillz, which are commendable, indeed. The closest thing to half-Life movie was a somewhat cheesy early 90's sci-fi film called The Arrival, with Charlie Sheen. Mr. Sheen played a scientist, and sported the same glasses and haircut as Gordon Freeman, and at one point, he goes into a research facility of sorts, complete with aliens, experimental technology, and a government conspiracy. At one point, Sheen's character wore a orange jumpsuit, and was pursued by a federal agent. Case and point: (This BBCode requires its accompanying plugin to work properly.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 I just watched the video again and had an epiphany. It just struck me how it looks so high budget, yet still has somewhat of a low-budget feel. Then I wondered, what if it's not supposed to look professional? What if it's exactly what it says it is: a test video. So here's my hypothesis: the video is actually an attempt to create a film where all of the visual effects are rendered in real time with a game engine. Could possibly be Valve's next Source engine, or even their most recent updates to the current Source engine made for Episode 3. I came to this conclusion when I noticed that basically all of the visual effects in the video look somewhat out of place, but at the same time look strangely coherent. The view outside the window reminded me a lot of what the Source engine looks like, and the building explosions near the end also look something like Source's cinematic physics system. This makes a lot of sense to me because it explains the quality of both the film, and the visual effects. The film of course is high budget because it's by Valve, but it's not perfect because it only needs to be good enough to get the point across (IIRC, they said they were experimenting with cinematography in the Left 4 Dead commentary). The visual effects don't look completely polished to Hollywood standards simply because they're being rendered by a real-time engine. Of course I just pulled this all out of my a**, but it's something to consider. Popular opinion seems to be that this is a fan video, but AFAIK, we haven't yet had official word of what this actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I ain't touching this one. Whatever they're advertising it's working. Film? Seven Hour War? Episode 3? Complete crazy ****? Who knows. Looking at the wiki page... the clues are so arbitrarily vague and artificial that I hate the idea that some marketing guys are laughing their heads off that everyone is freaking out and have no idea what they're doing. Like ilovebees.com.... but in video. Cool... but I personally just don't feel like "falling" for this one. :V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Hmm. Well, since Gmod came out, I've seen all sorts of stuff. Great stuff, and that which really makes me scratch my head .........and other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderQ Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 After watching the video a second time, I am now ABSOLUTLey confident that this is Half-Life. 1: Look at the news flash going across the main character's HUD, it says, "..Worst Incident since Black Mesa, thousands feared dead." 2: Look at the Babel website, it shows three company insignias, Black Mesa's, Aperture Laboratories, and the Honso Foundation {probably Babel} 3: Look at the introduction for the Babel Company, it says that a R. Altmann created Babel. Ring a bell? Dr. Robert Altmann, Half-Life Episode 2 I believe.. Anyway, that's some of the information that really convinced me of this....could this video be for....Episode 3? Just a Half-Life movie? A movie of the same universe? That remains to be seen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I did a whois on EURid and found that the Babel Research site is registered to a certain "timaciousd@gmail.com". In the WITB video, you'll see "Timacious" at the very start, along with a timestamp. Did a search for Timacious, and here's what I found: http://actofrage.com/2009/03/timacious-next-dutch-hollywood-talent-famous-in-the-blink-of-an-eye/ http://www.youtube.com/user/Timacious Looks like a fan video atm, probably an intricate, viral portfolio for an indie director. In any case, I don't really think its viral marketing for anything big, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 I did a whois on EURid and found that the Babel Research site is registered to a certain "timaciousd@gmail.com". In the WITB video, you'll see "Timacious" at the very start, along with a timestamp. Did a search for Timacious, and here's what I found: http://actofrage.com/2009/03/timacious-next-dutch-hollywood-talent-famous-in-the-blink-of-an-eye/ http://www.youtube.com/user/Timacious Looks like a fan video atm, probably an intricate, viral portfolio for an indie director. In any case, I don't really think its viral marketing for anything big, at least. This make Hulk ANGRY. Admittedly, his video isn't bad, which makes it all the more confusing that he would be dumb enough to present it in a way that would disappoint every single fan of the things he's trying to pay homage to. If I made a fan video for something that was good enough to possibly be construed as official work, the last thing I would want to do is present it as official work. Sure it made him somewhat famous, but he did that by using other people's concepts and images to exploit two fanbases (of which I am a part of) and create false hopes. That sounds like copyright infringement to me, but beyond that, it's definitely riding on the coattails. I otherwise would have been fairly impressed in his directorial skills, but now I just think of him as somewhat of a douchebag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Admittedly, his video isn't bad, which makes it all the more confusing that he would be dumb enough to present it in a way that would disappoint every single fan of the things he's trying to pay homage to. If I made a fan video for something that was good enough to possibly be construed as official work, the last thing I would want to do is present it as official work. Sure it made him somewhat famous, but he did that by using other people's concepts and images to exploit two fanbases (of which I am a part of) and create false hopes. That sounds like copyright infringement to me, but beyond that, it's definitely riding on the coattails. I otherwise would have been fairly impressed in his directorial skills, but now I just think of him as somewhat of a douchebag. I wouldn't say its too bad for what looks like the work of one guy helped out by 3-4 other guys. Most of the graphics looked very professional (except for the dust and such), and I loved how it emulated the human eye instead of a handycam. You can actually see the guy looking around frantically and stuff, very realistic, like watching an FPS movie. If he constructed that viral marketing campaign on his own too, well that's worth props as well. Sure, he trespassed a lot of stuff on the way, but you have to build up attention. Admit it IG, you got all excited about this because it hinted at J.J. Abrams and Half-Life 2. Had it not referenced either, you probably may not have given it more than a cursory glance. I think the guy's talented, and most likely rich. But yeah, I guess he angered more than a few blokes on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 Sure, he trespassed a lot of stuff on the way, but you have to build up attention. Admit it IG, you got all excited about this because it hinted at J.J. Abrams and Half-Life 2. Had it not referenced either, you probably may not have given it more than a cursory glance. That was exactly my point. I just don't think that that's an acceptable way to build attention. Yeah, his video is impressive. I work with computer graphics, and I can see how difficult it was to do and how well done it was. The cinematography and the viral campaigns were very impressive. All that is good and fine, but it doesn't matter, because in the end that's probably not why this got so famous. He could have just presented his own work by itself, viral campaign and all. If it didn't get as famous, then tough. Even if he had just said up front that he was doing it unofficially as a fan, I still would have been okay with that. It's the fact that he exploited the popularity of other things to further his own gain that pisses me off. Sure, I'm probably pretty biased, since they were things that I am very fond of. But let's say, for example, he had done this with Firefly. I've never seen Firefly, but if he had exploited that fanbase, and gained fame because of that instead of solely on his work, then yeah, I still would have thought that was a dick move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I did a whois on EURid and found that the Babel Research site is registered to a certain "timaciousd@gmail.com". In the WITB video, you'll see "Timacious" at the very start, along with a timestamp. Did a search for Timacious, and here's what I found: http://actofrage.com/2009/03/timacious-next-dutch-hollywood-talent-famous-in-the-blink-of-an-eye/ http://www.youtube.com/user/Timacious Looks like a fan video atm, probably an intricate, viral portfolio for an indie director. In any case, I don't really think its viral marketing for anything big, at least. Wow... that guy made the video that won the Mythbusters "we do your myth" thing in that one episode about the inseparable interlaced phone books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 That was exactly my point. I just don't think that that's an acceptable way to build attention. Yeah. I've had similar pet peeves with how things I have liked in past have _TOTALLY_ been botched due to marketing and ads. When the ways marketeers as well as independent folks get attention crosses over into, shall we call it "FOUL" territory...makes you want to smash your head against the wall for such rape of enthusiasm. From the way you talk, this does not sound like the first time you have been duped either. Here here. Yeah, his video is impressive.<snip> All that is good and fine, but it doesn't matter, because in the end that's probably not why this got so famous. He could have just presented his own work by itself, viral campaign and all. If it didn't get as famous, then tough. Even if he had just said up front that he was doing it unofficially as a fan, I still would have been okay with that. It's the fact that he exploited the popularity of other things to further his own gain that pisses me off. It does make one wonder just where their heart is: The fame, or the game? I find these things to be rather insulting. For example, Acceptable failure: There was megaman fan video. However, it only had a (very well done) preview. However the flick ran out of $$$ before it even got very far. It didn't even need to include all the villains. It really looked like they had a good thing going. Honest failure. Unacceptable: If they would have continued to play it up, gather the fans and their anticipation (perhaps raised funds) make a ghetto ass vid under the supposed direciton of a professional who has no appreciation for what the fans want, and created it in a way they liked as a vain attempt at their so-called artistic endeavor. Point being: Even if the video itself was good, there is nothing more that pisses me off than ridiculous ploys for hype and attention. Sure, I'm probably pretty biased, since they were things that I am very fond of. But let's say, for example, he had done this with Firefly. I've never seen Firefly, but if he had exploited that fanbase, and gained fame because of that instead of solely on his work, then yeah, I still would have thought that was a dick move. While I am not up on specifics of half life, the general gist of what you're sayin' I can completely go for. There is nothing wrong with fondness and wanting trueness-to-form. It makes me feel like finding these A-holes in person who exploit me and fellow fans of, whatever thing it may be, and go bookie status on him. No, I completely agree with you, IG-64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommycat Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Some sections look poorly done, but others look pretty professional. The shakey head cam and the viewscreens is not easy to do. Generally when they show CGI in shots like that they use a still camera so the images are easier to get aligned. Watch most TV shows. When they have a flat panel showing high tech graphics, the camera is locked in place. Even if it isn't for a Half-Life movie, it's still pretty impressive. Very well done. Some of the elements added are very nicely embedded. If it is just a student project, it's a lot better than most student projects I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Attention whoring still sux, tho. Even if it is well made. Exploiting fanbases= nono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Pot, kettle, black, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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