news: New planet: Tatooine

[TriggerGod]

Not sure where people say it. But if you go to the bottom of the page to the Holonet bar and hover over the planet button, it does a pop-up and lists the planets, there's only room for 2. Maybe that's what people mean?

 

If that's true we can also expect at least 1 more class and at least 5 more alliances/factions.

[RogueJedi86]

Well who says the other factions have to be directly tied to a class? It'd be foolish to assume only 4 factions have a role in the galaxy right now. With BHs starting on Nal Hutta, I would count the Hutts as a faction for one thing.

[Feagildin]

The first two images have Jedi Academy written all over them. What a rip off. I'll be waiting for sand people and Kyle Katarn, maybe a quest to search for an astromech droid on a sandcrawler...

[RogueJedi86]

I am kinda surprised how modern the sandcrawlers look. It's only been 300 years, what happened to the sandcrawlers from KotOR?

[jrrtoken]

I am kinda surprised how modern the sandcrawlers look. It's only been 300 years, what happened to the sandcrawlers from KotOR?

*There were no sandcralwers from KotOR 1. They've only had one design, and that was the one from A New Hope*

[RogueJedi86]

This is the KotOR sandcrawler I spoke of:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Multi-Environment_Tracked_Transport

 

Sure it was a Czerka creation, but KotOR stated that when mining groups leave, they left behind their vehicles, which the Jawas took as their own. Would this mean that the Czerka Corporation had a war with the Jawas to take back their transports?

 

And that the Jawas in TOR will be using the exact same looking transports for 3500+ years? I know people were miffed at TOR's prequel-inspired ships and armors and such, but these TOR sandcrawlers are almost DIRECT copies from the original movies.

[Alexrd]

The first two images have Jedi Academy written all over them. What a rip off.

 

I completely agree.

[Lord of Hunger]

Of all the places, they choose the most overused planet in Star Wars.

 

Yawn.

[jrrtoken]

And that the Jawas in TOR will be using the exact same looking transports for 3500+ years? I know people were miffed at TOR's prequel-inspired ships and armors and such, but these TOR sandcrawlers are almost DIRECT copies from the original movies.

In all seriousness, it could very well be different models that were not seen in K1, but were in-use nonetheless. Or, they just happened to appear. The latter seems more realistic, unfortunately.

[RogueJedi86]

It just reeks of BioWare trying too hard to make this look like the original movies so they can bring in the movie-only newbs. Would it kill them to keep a things looking like they did in KotOR? At this rate I expect to see full-on Millenium Falcon clones and no ships that look like the Ebon Hawk.

[Web Rider]

It just reeks of BioWare trying too hard to make this look like the original movies so they can bring in the movie-only newbs. Would it kill them to keep a things looking like they did in KotOR? At this rate I expect to see full-on Millenium Falcon clones and no ships that look like the Ebon Hawk.

 

The Ebon Hawk was practically a mini-Millennium Falcon clone, so it's really not that much of a jump.

[RogueJedi86]

There were more differences between the Ebon Hawk and Millenium Falcon than the TOR sandcrawler and ANH sandcrawler.

[darthfergie]

It just reeks of BioWare trying too hard to make this look like the original movies so they can bring in the movie-only newbs. Would it kill them to keep a things looking like they did in KotOR? At this rate I expect to see full-on Millenium Falcon clones and no ships that look like the Ebon Hawk.

 

I honestly don't mind that too much. I like a few touches of home to say "oh this really is star wars and not a break from everything I knew." I mean sure KOTOR was enjoyable, but do I want SWTOR to build on KOTOR only and pretend the rest of SW never existed? Of course not. The game thrives on the moments where familiarity collides.

 

I enjoyed the sound guy's interview on Hater talking about how they would be using the feel of yoda's theme in KOTOR for the Jedi. It would add that extra layer to watching the films to say, hey this really does connect. I know the feeling this music evokes, it's pureblooded JEDI.

 

You've got to keep those grounding elements interwoven into the game or else it's just another game wishing it could be like Star Wars.

[Lord of Hunger]

Actually the less Movie Star Wars, the better. That whole area of the plot has gone down hill to the point of not being funny.

[Feagildin]

While I dislike the similarities I saw to another SW game, I do agree with darthfergie. You need connections to Episodes IV, V, and VI for it to "feel like Star Wars." Without so many elements from the movies, you just have a westernized anime ripoff without the cool artwork. Ok, so while that last sentence may have been a bit of an exaggeration, what good is a smuggler who isn't out for number one, or a Jedi learning to meditate without the classic Yoda theme-esque music, or a Sith without cruelty, ambition, and menacing black robes/armor? What good is Tatooine without sandcrawlers and Jawas? Besides, its been made clear that the Jawas have been scavenging from settlement attempts on Tatooine for centuries, maybe even millenia, so who's to say that they didn't just stick with the same type of sandcrawler for four thousand years? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[RogueJedi86]

But Feagildin, KotOR1 was still Star Warsy with its heavily modified Sandcrawlers, so why couldn't TOR use those? I liked their design more than the old boring brown blocky ones of the original movies. Why did they switch to the Brown Block over the KotOR1 version? Like you said, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And with them being scavengers who constantly "borrow" technology they find, why would they have vehicles with the exact same look for 3500 years? Surely at least a few people with some different technology came by Tatooine in the 3500 years between TOR and TPM, that the Jawas could "borrow".

[Alexrd]

Actually the less Movie Star Wars, the better. That whole area of the plot has gone down hill to the point of not being funny.

 

So, why call it Star Wars?

[adamqd]

So, why call it Star Wars?

 

I think he means, use more motifs and styling's from the EU and previous KotOR titles, than make it a Clone Wars/Prequel Trilogy Clone... Like, I personally don't need this much White armor and anime in my life TBH lol,

[True_Avery]

So, why call it Star Wars?

I'll try to clarify what he said:

 

The less George Lucas Star Wars, the better.

 

There is a reason Empire Strikes Back is considered the best, and the Trilogy (in which George had almost complete control) are the worst.

 

At this point I'd be interested in any Star Wars -anything- without George involved. Tor's story is slowly going down the sink, but I'm still holding on simply because George doesn't have his hand in this cake.

 

That said, I do not like the fact they are making references to the prequel trilogy in their art work. It is as if nobody learned a damn thing from those 3 failures of film. While the stylized approach works, it also has the same problem of the prequel's: its too damn sterile. And even though they are claiming this art style is simply to make the world easier to build... its quite obvious they are stealing the Art style from the Clone Wars cartoon in order to pull in the current younger audience.

 

I expect nothing else from Star Wars nowadays. The movies Started off as a franchise aimed at both Kids and Adults, and now even Kotor has been given the Clone Wars treatment. Makes me wonder why I should ever care about Star Wars anymore if those in charge no longer have respect for the franchise.

[adamqd]

Agreed, The Used Future look of the OT was groundbreaking, one of the many reasons it still kicks ass and is held in such high esteem, its the reason Ridley Scott designed Alien to look as it did, and influenced so many other Film Makers and fans alike... Like TA say's its all Clean cut Male models, 3 year olds, the Clone Wars and Cartoon Network now.

[darthfergie]

If you've seen some of the pics of Coruscant there are definitely places that have that used future look to them. Trash on the streets kind of thing.

 

But yeah, I definitely know what you mean. It all of the sudden got very pristine in the Prequels and they are carrying over some of that into the game. I'm just hoping planets like Ord Mantell, Nal Hutta, and Balmorra really show those trashy sides.

[Nedak]

I'll try to clarify what he said:

 

The less George Lucas Star Wars, the better.

 

There is a reason Empire Strikes Back is considered the best, and the Trilogy (in which George had almost complete control) are the worst.

 

At this point I'd be interested in any Star Wars -anything- without George involved. Tor's story is slowly going down the sink, but I'm still holding on simply because George doesn't have his hand in this cake.

 

That said, I do not like the fact they are making references to the prequel trilogy in their art work. It is as if nobody learned a damn thing from those 3 failures of film. While the stylized approach works, it also has the same problem of the prequel's: its too damn sterile. And even though they are claiming this art style is simply to make the world easier to build... its quite obvious they are stealing the Art style from the Clone Wars cartoon in order to pull in the current younger audience.

 

I expect nothing else from Star Wars nowadays. The movies Started off as a franchise aimed at both Kids and Adults, and now even Kotor has been given the Clone Wars treatment. Makes me wonder why I should ever care about Star Wars anymore if those in charge no longer have respect for the franchise.

 

Wonderful post!

 

I've seen a lot of George Lucas leg-humping on these forums, and it's great to see somebody speaking the truth in detail!

[Tommycat]

Actually, in the game the Czerka miner foreman says, "Maybe the Jawas will scavenge it and use it for themselves."

 

Chances are the Jawas fixed them up differently and modified them. Made them huge to ward off the giant people of the sand. We all know the Jawas like to fix things up. They just might have kept fixing them for years and generations and even several thousand years.

[RogueJedi86]

And in those thousands of years of fixing, they never changed the look beyond the one big change they did in the 300 years since KotOR?

[Tommycat]

And in those thousands of years of fixing, they never changed the look beyond the one big change they did in the 300 years since KotOR?

 

Maybe the outside didn't change, but the insides may have. Heck they may not have seen a real need to adjust the outside that much. Large flat areas that could be replaced and patched relatively easily. Towering structure that can see over dunes and scare sand people.

 

and just to cover the the inevitable note about a crawler getting hit:

Luke: It looks like the Sand People did this, all right. Look, there's gaffi sticks, bantha tracks. It's just...I never heard of them hitting anything this big before.

Ben: They didn't, but we are meant to think they did. And these blast points, too accurate for Sand People. Only Imperial storm troopers are so precise.