Astrotoy7 Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 lolz, chainz you may have noticed the cube is gone. those 8300 mini-itx boards are proving impossible to find So at this stage, its back on the micro atx track Newegg(not available to oz) prices them at $150 US. I can get that XFX board(xfx=build quality assured) for $130 AUD literally up the road Im sure I'll get one of those cubes ....one day(to replace the secondary htpc on my DLP projector) mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Doh! so much for our furniture enterprise! Sexy looking mobo though Built in graphics with DX10 and all the goodies... nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 congrats to lexxy on her very first WU! Good ole PS3 @lexxy > on the snazzy visualisation teh PS3 has, are there many folders displayed in Oz, particularly to the south east(Im in Melbourne meself) ? mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Yeah it had one for Melbourne. It does all the major cities, and shows you up-to-date news and weather for them. Very cool vis indeed, but I've swapped to the GPU PC client now as explained in the thread. Seems to be going at it pretty fast, I'm on my 3rd WU already. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Cool stuff lexxy. CUDA folders are definitely the quickest. What card do you have?? with yet another GPU client on board, we're going to break the top 2000 sharpish * * * As for me, my shopping odyssey/fantasy is OVER Ive decided Im selling the 8800GTS and getting a single slot 8800GT, 9600 or 9800GT. This will fit in my existing secondary shuttle. This way, I'll actually break even or maybe make a small profit as opposed to forking out up to $500 for a new rig. (which I need for my GTX 2xx of course!) common sense and mathematics prevails again \o/ I wonder what type of PPD/WUPD the 9800GT and 8800GT clock mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I've got a 8800GTS lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I've heard from some sources that there's little difference between the 9xxx series and the 8xxx series, but that's just from several reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_man Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 SO the PS3 has f@h? What are the chances this thing is coming to the Xbox 360? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 A 360 client isnt unfathomable. It just needs to be picked up by MS, like sony did for the PS3. @Miltiades Ive noticed you have an 8800GT, and average about 2000 PPD. When you do get the 2000+ points, is it when folding for the full 24hrs? mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltiades Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 @Astrotoy: No. Most days, my computer's only on for half a day. At its most, during weekends, I'd say it's on for about 14-15 hrs tops. Good average, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 cheers Miltiades. Sounds like I can knock over the same PPD/WUPD with the 8800GT as I did with the 8800GTS. Good stuff Things have worked out much more economical this way...I can get a 8800GT soon and take my time saving/upgrading my 880GTS. Heck, I might even wait to see what the 55nm GTX280 can do Hence, with the two G80s folding plus the SMP client(unflagged), I'll probably get 7-8000 PPD on days Im on 24/24 good stuff ! mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 I've finally been able to fetch new SMP WU aren't suffering from the "Long 1-4 Interactions" (still project 2665 though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Does anyone know if there is a way for you to transfer a WU from the CPU client to the GPU client? Since my GPU client causes too much lag when using it in tandem with Firefox, and since I could leave my computer running all night long folding, I could simply transfer all power to the GPU when I'm away, and then somehow send the WU to the CPU when I'm actually using my computer. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 tk may be able to correct me, but my understanding is that GPU clients WUs are different types/sizes and not interchangeable. ie. if a std client was assigned a GPU WU itd take many days to finish and if a GPU client was assigned a std WU itd take 10-15 minutes to complete. That being said, GPU folding shouldnt really interfere with FF unless your connection is experiencing problems(or maybe you are doing more graphical stuff like youtube and other flash vids/apps inside your browser, with a lower end GPU) *what graphics card/chipset do you have? *have you tried lowering the GPU usage percentage. (in configuration) *do you have "allow receipt of large work units" switched on? *or you could simply just switch it off when youre surfing, and maybe have a std client on then, and just reapply the GPU client when your pc is idle. Remember, have it on/off when it suits you. Dont become one of those crazy people that restrict what they do on their pc because they are folding on it. Thats silly. Whether it takes 1week or 1 day to complete a WU, its the fact that you are contributing that is the key >I have both clients off when gaming, editing video(happened a bit more since I got FIFA 09! Thats why I'm happy to be having a standalone folder in my secondary htpc(which isnt used for recording tv) >I also have SMP client only off when doing encoding stuff(GPU doesnt really mess much with CPU) mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted October 12, 2008 Author Share Posted October 12, 2008 Definitely. As Astro said.. only fold when it suits you. I for example, only fold when I'm either a) not at home or b) when not on the computer. As soon as I sit down in front of the computer, I turn off the client no matter what I'm doing. The fact that you're contributing is in itself rewarding. With the combined efforts of everyone here.. we've become highly successful. Just look at how awesome we've been doing lately. With everyone aboard, we've managed to progress blindingly fast and more importantly submitted quite a lot to the project. Team effort FTW! Sure we like looking at the numbers, and joke around about rankings and such.. but that's just in fun. I'd like to think of the graphic goodies as a 'thank you' for all the support, badge of honor, rather than a 'neener neener we rawk' badge of boasting. Obtaining the badge will only help to better recruit more in to the "Fold" (har har) and help spread the word of what Folding is all about. So it's a great perk for both us AND the project itself. More folders = more units = betterment of what Folding@Home is trying to accomplish. Killing diseases together... Go Team! Speaking of Team accomplishments.. for the "fun" we have conquered the 2,000 rank! Congrats gang.. we're now in the high contributor echelon and STILL climbing. Now for the better part.. we have contributed over 1,500 WU's! For a little perspective of what we're actually achieving: Why is protein folding so difficult to understand? It's amazing that not only do proteins self-assemble -- fold -- but they do so amazingly quickly: some as fast as a millionth of a second. While this time is very fast on a person's timescale, it's remarkably long for computers to simulate. In fact, it takes about a day to simulate a nanosecond (1/1,000,000,000 of a second). Unfortunately, proteins fold on the tens of microsecond timescale (10,000 nanoseconds). Thus, it would take 10,000 CPU days to simulate folding -- i.e. it would take 30 CPU years! That's a long time to wait for one result! Who'da thunked it a few months ago when our little rag-tag grouped first emerged that we'd be contributing so much so soon... hehehe Makes me feel all warm & fuzzy inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 wonderfully said chainz and yes, a SUPER CONGRATS to the whole team on cracking the top 2000 Kakao stats predicts we move another 500 places in 30 days. So by end of the year/xmas, we have the momentum to get into the top 1000 if we maintain this rate Add to the mix we will be getting another GPU client on board soon in the form of my 8800GT and things will trot along even quicker. keep up the great work all.. the cause is indeed a good one mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 lol... I was feeling like something a bit different so Ive decided to go all geeky and use trek themed TeamLFN pic. It was inspired by seeing a screenie of a molecular analysis thingie on trek which reminded me of the folding models. I cant think of why anyone else would want to use it, so didnt add it to the above album, but here it is if you are interested or simply if you want a squiz. and yes, the fact that this is a star wars themed site does not escape me! anyone who insists on pointing this out further will be set upon by my malevolent pussycat, Astro Jr mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 Man Astro.. Astro Jr. looks pissed in that pic Did Kimba make him mad or something?! Or did you just disturb the 'king' with the magic flashy light box thingamajig... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Hey has anyone come across instructions on how to create a local assignment and collection server for a private network? I have access to a lot of idle machines here at work that could help out, but they're behind a firewall. Fortunately I have a gateway machine that could bridge the gap to the internet, but rather than simply make it into a 'soft router' which would require me modifying the default gateways of each machine, I'm wondering if it's possible to set it up as an assignment / collection server from the point of view of the workstations. Looks like we will handily break our own record today for points per day, as we're currently at 19449 (was 16517, set on Oct 2). Good job everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 tk, Im not even sure what you are asking there! It sounds like an advanced networking question, if it is, best bet around here would be Mr "Crazy" Ray Jones @chainz... wow. Kimba(and I) are impressed you remember him. Everyone always asks about Astro simply because I rabbit on about him so much. Yes, he was grimly focused on ambushing Kimba. Being a Bengal, Kimba has the advantage of speed, so Astro can only rely on stealth and brute power(being double Kimba's size) ... I like how he had one ear down over his eye, for targeting accuracy Ive been playing FIFA09 so much looks like chainz is catching up on me on the WU front as well. There'll be 2 weeks head start until I get my 8800GT(or 9800GT)! I was hoping to get one this week but ebay barred me from listing my Nintendo DS Lite + flashpass gizmo ugh mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Basically I have admin rights on a number of relatively idle workstations behind a corporate firewall. I also have admin rights on a PC that has access rights on both sides of the firewall (it's a gateway essentially). I'd like to run FAH on the workstations and provide them with WUs via the gateway PC. What I don't want to have to do is to modify the workstations' IP configuration to use the gateway PC as their Network Gateway and enable TCP forwarding on the gateway PC. If possible, I'd rather configure the client.cfg on the workstations to fetch and send their WUs to the gateway PC which can then forward them on to the real server. I thought I had read of some other IT guy doing this kind of setup at his business, but I can't find the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 interesting stuff tk, I remember some stuff about IP masquerading when I was reading about diskless folding farms. There is a sample config file referred to. There are more complete instructions in this PDF. But please note, this all was talkin about a setup within Linux, so I have no idea if it is helpful to you Just thought I might mention it If that is to no avail, try the F@H forums of course(if you havent done so already) mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Yeah I saw that one. The way that setup works, the farm server is actually the only PC with a hard drive and video card and all the CPUs load their OS and FAH instance from a network connection to the server. Each CPU gets its own directory on the server for storing data. When the WUs are needed or finished, the server acts as a gateway for sending them. It's a pretty slick setup though not really helpful to me. Thanks for helping me look! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 congrats to chainz on achieving #1 in team rank in points +WUs! You have EA to thank chainz, theyve done such an awesome job on revamping FIFA 09 on pc I spend a few years each day playing it! Also, thanks to expenses and stuff that have popped up, getting that 8800/9800GT has been delayed, maybe 2w, maybe a month Damn ebay for booting my listing ! Im still pondering that C216 for after that....should I wait for the 55nm is the question that makes me hesitate. Of course, I probably wont be able to monetarily afford the 55nm on first release prices! Then there is the fact that AMD shanghai CPUs will hit at the same time, and if reports are anything to go by, will provide a decent x4 solution at a higher clock... bleh... the things that weight on a tech-heads mind Anyway, regardless of who is ranked #1, great to see the whole team powering along. I for one am glad there are a few of us running GPU clients, its the best way to power through WUs these days..... And of course, tk has proven that you can do some pretty special things with the non-GPU clients super stuff!! GO TEAM!! mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 Yeah. I should thank work too... (that's a first) We've been so busy lately that coming home after work.. just thinking of sitting in front of my computer makes me sick..ergo, F@H is uninterrupted.. hehehe This is the first time in probably a week I've been on it rather than my mac... (and home early enough)... I'm sure things will change once you get your gear and/or tk delves in to his super-cluster Regardless, as you said.. it's great to see everyone still folding along. It's nice to see we're working on a good cause and not idling away searching for E.T. Fun as SETI was, I think this is a better cause for my "as-of-late-dust-gathering" PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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