LukA_YJK Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 <CENTER><B>Dear Friends !</B></CENTER> So many things happened during these last days. I should tell everything to you: First of all it was true when I said that I am leaving. Meanwhile I noticed that since the forum upgrade <U>I was being demoted from time to time</U> untill I became a mere member a week ago (<B>Rogue15</B> do you remember ?) It did not make me uneasy much, but something did happen. I can't recall how that idea came to mind, really. But I <U>did not</U> simply <I>guess Ike's password</I> as <B>Metallus</B> said. Actually I did not know his password at all, that was a real security hole when I could log in as any of about 50 users - even <B>Chris3po</B>. Anyhow I sent that <A href="http://rogue.squadron.tripod.com/_temp/LucasForums.htm" target="_blank">ill-fated <B>announcement</B></A> using <B>Ikhnaton</B>'s account in December 25, where I was saying good bye to all mainly. Next day I received a mail from <B>Ikhnaton</B>. Although seems he was trying to be generously restrained I felt that offended him deeply. All the day I was not myself, it was like a heavy stone hanged on my heart. I sent a message to <B>Ikhnaton</B> with carbon copy to <B>Lujayne</B>, Aristotle@lucasgames.com and ZeroXcape@lucasgames.com. But it turned out that the last two addresses were wrong so here it is (somebody please pass it to Admins):<HR><small>Dear Ikhnaton, I just got your message and it affected me like a bucket of hot water or a cold shower. I have nothing to do but to beg you pardon publicly, really, I behaved like a stupid kid and a stupid kid I am... Looking back I understood that it was my another failed exam Aargh ! And my bad English tricked a bad joke on me again ! Lujayne, I wrote "this is for that you proposed me for Forum Admin for nothing." I meaned that you kindly did it without any interest and I wanted to repay, but unsuccessfully. I am really ashamed, it looked like a harmless joke for me, but now I got that I was wrong... Please believe me I did not want to go away like this now when I am really leaving everything I like so much for two years Ikhnaton, you wrote "my admin rights are gone". Why ? Did they demote you ? Dear Admins I shall explain everything - as you see it was not just his omission, the vBulletin engine has such an obvious security hole that even a half-witted like me could exploit it. I think you already noticed that a simple script was just [censored]. So admins and mods should [censored] to secure. Today I must confess completely: why I take a dislike to you, Ikhnaton. I have realized it fully only now. First time, when I was just promoted to Forum Admin (April 24) you came with that "ads banner" story that casted shadow on me although I proved that I did not erase anything. Then as soon as you got back Admin privilegies you erased rank sign helmets added by me and requested all files to upload them stright to RS server, but did not. Now you wrote "I'm going to have to demote you..." I informed you before: already one week I am simply a member. After forum upgrade I became a mod at all RS forums. Then (every time you had promotion) somebody demoted me - to the mod of Staff section and then to a mere member. Surely I said these all not to justify myself... The Dark Side was talking in me... Please forgive me for the sake of that holydays. Ikhnaton, give me a sign till the end of this week, please. I really can not bear that heavy load to the next year Dear Admins, I have one only request. Please listen to me, consider it as a last will: Please, update the RogueSquadron.Net as soon as you can. I really appreciate your work very much. Thanks to it we have such a great opportunity to meet new friends and share our feelings. Now I have to go... Good bye and may the Force be with you ! LukA_YJK (Araz)</small><HR>Aargh ! He still did not answer Now I think that I was wrong by suspecting <B>Ike</B>, it was somebody else, but now it is really no matter... I was really in a deep depression so the next day when I noticed that <U>my account had been deleted</U> I did not feel worse. I lost everything -two years of my life in Rogue Squadron forums, even could not say a last farewell... That moment I noticed your postings like a ray of light in a pitch darkness ! Oh my dear Rogues, I nearly burst in tears ! <B>Delphi's Clone</B>, <B>Rogue15</B>, <B>Lynk Former</B> and <B>all others</B>, what can I say ? <FONT color="red"><B>YOU ARE REAL FRIENDS !</B></FONT> Now I registered again to say something in the end: First of all that I <U>really need to inform Admins about that security hole</U>. Although actually I think that <B>Aristotle</B>'s staff already figured it out and handled. Also I <U>did not</U> receive any message from <B>Chris3po</B>, probably because my forum account was wiped out (for private messages) and recently deja.com stopped its web mail serivice (mail address indicated in my deleted account). Please forward your messages till January 2 to my non-web mailbox I indicated this time. 20% of <A href="http://www.azer.com" target="_blank">my country</A> is under occupation and although it is cease-fire now many guys return home "in a horizontal position" or "feet ahead". So you can consider it as a last will Dear <B>Rogues</B>, so many words I want to say and <U>so many I said already</U>... You are the bests ! Please don't leave ! It will be nearly impossible to connect during these year, but I will take any little opportunity, promise. The Force is with you... always ! Dear <B>Admins</B> if it is possible, please, please restore my deleted account (no.5674). If it is not, no problem. Anyway after some time this thread as well as the name of <B>LukA_YJK</B> will go to the eternal non-existence... Good bye and may the Force be with you ! LukA_YJK of Baku http://rogue.squadron.tripod.com <BGSOUND src="r2d2-2.txt"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 The RS.netters will be happy to see you, Luka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 Agreed... Same thing happened to me over at XWA a few years ago... I made a joke about one of my good friends, who was a mod and who's name I shall not mention for Ike's sake, but he took it the wrong way, and I lost my mod status... That friend has since moved on to other places, but I'm still stuck in member-land. It sucks, but hey... If my hyper-inflatable ego could handle it, you can to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 Yay! Luka's back! Please don't leave us forever Luka...everyone makes mistakes, and I believe yours was made innocently you can't just fade away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 his 'hack' if you would call it that, was take too extremely by the higher-ups. I think the reason they went berzerk on him, was because he told HOW he hacked, on every forum at once (via announcement thread) instead of just private messeging one of the admins. Hence, why Chris said that he 'caused chaos'. Welcome back, Luka, in one of Chris' pm's he said: I certainly didn't delete his user name, if another admin did so it was without my knowledge. I would feel worse about that, but he never responded to my demands for a complete explanation of his actions. If he wants to join again, I have no problem with that, if he behaves I might even restore his post count. But his actions have consequences. He'll have to except that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 Luka, when you made that announcement, were you aware that it was placed in every single lucasforum? I think that was the main reason of why they came down pretty hard on you..in the messege, it doesn't look like you knew it was going to every forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikhnaton Posted December 31, 2001 Share Posted December 31, 2001 LukA, just so you know, I had no idea that you had no mod status at all. I thought you were a super mod all along and didn't realize that i removed all mod powers you had when i took your name off the mod lists. I NEVER took any malicious action against you. When I told you I would have to demote you, I didn't realize that you were already without mod powers, so I didn't even have to do that. I did NOT delete your accout. You've got to stop taking these things personally, like the banner and the icons. The only reason I put up a big stink when you made those changes was because you were the new admin and I was the old admin, and you weren't following normal procedure when making changes. The site wasn't and isn't ours to just change willy nilly, otherwise I would have made many more changes. LukA, i do not remember receiving anything from you that indicated that you had no mod powers or anything. You could have notified another admin that you didn't have the correct access rights. Instead you foolishly exploited the security hole instead of keeping it quiet, so that now any member with a penchant for hacking now has a goal to work toward. We all make mistakes, and I have made my share, but as Chris stated, you have to take the consequences of your actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted December 31, 2001 Share Posted December 31, 2001 Don't we all love miscommunication? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksaber Posted December 31, 2001 Share Posted December 31, 2001 Hey come on guys, chill out with LukA_YJK, remember with out his editing skills RS would be nothing, you guys would have been sitting around with your thumb up you arse's. Yes he made a mistake but he admitted it, fair enough he should have been a bit more careful how he posted the info, but come on, as Redwing said eveyone makes mistakes. LukA_YJK is having a bad enough time in his own country let alone getting grief on here, places like this are for getting away from reality. Please give him a break. And LukA_YJK, your name will never die as long as I have your Utilities at my website. Try to have a Hapy New Year, and I wish you all the luck in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikhnaton Posted December 31, 2001 Share Posted December 31, 2001 Originally posted by Darksaber Hey come on guys, chill out with LukA_YJK, remember with out his editing skills RS would be nothing, you guys would have been sitting around with your thumb up you arse's. Um, no. LukA did do some things for the forums, as in the new banner and the helmets, and there was the whole passcode thing, but Aristotle's guys would have taken up the regular site operations anyway, so it is a rather moot point. Not trying to diminish his skills or his efforts, but we would not have our "thumbs up our arses". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted December 31, 2001 Share Posted December 31, 2001 He could have just put himself on the supermod list and been done with it. It's the simplest way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sad Shadow Posted December 31, 2001 Share Posted December 31, 2001 Give luka another chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikhnaton Posted December 31, 2001 Share Posted December 31, 2001 matt, that's the dishonest way. DSS, it's not just me, there are others who outrank me who say it must be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted December 31, 2001 Share Posted December 31, 2001 I understand you problem IKE. But you have to agree that Luka has been a honored Rogue member and that we all 'love' him for what he did for us. But i Understand your Problem. I just wanted to say: ALL HAIL LUKA! AND MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU LUKA! And good luck to you in your country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksaber Posted December 31, 2001 Share Posted December 31, 2001 Jerks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikhnaton Posted January 1, 2002 Share Posted January 1, 2002 Darksaber, this forum will be just fine, just as soon as you leave and take your pessimism with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted January 1, 2002 Share Posted January 1, 2002 Happy New Year! :bdroid2: :bdroid2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted January 1, 2002 Share Posted January 1, 2002 Heheh, ditto to that R15... and wb Luka, good to see you back in action! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphi's Clone Posted January 1, 2002 Share Posted January 1, 2002 wow Luka thanks for calling me a true freind *all star chanting* HAI LUKA HAIL LUKA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue9 Posted January 5, 2002 Share Posted January 5, 2002 Sorry to See you go Luka , was one of your posts that brought me here a year ago back when I was looking for cheats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 5, 2002 Share Posted January 5, 2002 I thought he was staying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted January 6, 2002 Share Posted January 6, 2002 He always posts this way: sporadically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 6, 2002 Share Posted January 6, 2002 Fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted January 6, 2002 Share Posted January 6, 2002 *enters quietly...* *shrugs* *...walks back into the darkness from which he came* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted January 7, 2002 Share Posted January 7, 2002 *graps Lynk and takes his kangeroo with him and hummms at him* HMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!! *and Wraith walks out of the room* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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