obi Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Time isn't a road that you can walk or drive..... anyways, I had to take a stupid High School Graduation writing test today, and the topic was time travel, believe it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marth Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 I think time travel is possible CAN be possible some how............ First you get the money, then you get the power then you get the women Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Originally posted by obi-wan13 Time isn't a road that you can walk or drive..... Holy crap, did you even read what I said or did you just see a single sentence and run with it, because I honestly don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Originally posted by Boba Rhett Holy crap, did you even read what I said what, is obi not allowed to have his own opinion anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 He can't if it doesn't make any sense. ^_^ Where you commenting on what I said or just stating something? If you weren't commenting on it then nevermind. If you were trying to just trying to be philosophical, well then.... *get's up and walks whilst staring at his watch* .... wait a minute.... *GASP* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 lol, I was just stating something, not necessarily to your post. Let me expand on my idea. What I mean was, I don't think time is a road you can travel, like driving to Florida. I believe time was invented by God, so that we could grow, and reflect our past, and learn from our mistakes. Besides, if a time machine was to be invented, some criminal man or somethin would most likely use it and alter history. On that note, How do we know a criminal man hasn't already altered history yet? er I better stop, I'm confusing myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 *goes back to page 1* hhhmmmm........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agen Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Though i could jsut quote everything on thisp age i won't But if you were to meet yourself then if oyu changed the decision you made back then, then that palce and time woudln't be possible so then that would make fate not possible. Maybe i should have quoted tat fate thing. EDIT: I believe on obi's expansion really even tho i think time travel could be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 If the past was altered,wouldnt it be altered already? But um...I hope that "Wonderful,the mind of a child is" quote will work on me... Ok..I think that time cannot be changed. No matter how hard we try,we cannot go back to change it. And matter cannot be created,nor can the same two matter be occupied in the same time(like my brain now and my brain 5 minutes from now right now:p). Now, we can go back in time, but any and all changes will create a new time contimium universe(We shall call it TCU),in which they are completely oblivious to the other TCU even the person(s) who went back in time couldnt remember,as he didnt have memories of why he came back or how. Heck,this might be a alternative universe from a completly different one. I wouldnt worry though,I think that time shall never be destroyed,as it has time protectors or something(no,not time squad:p) And my longest post ever is right there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Heh. It's almost as long as all your other posts combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Originally posted by Boba Rhett Heh. It's almost as long as all your other posts combined. Ah that hurt... *kills Rhett* *revives Rhett* *Strangles Rhett* *revives Rhett again* *Lets a goat lick Rhett till Rhett dies* *Takes Rhetts place as an admin* *I.P. bans Rhett* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Time travel will never be possible...to this day, the only seemingly possible type of time travelling will be travelling into the future, which in a sense is impossible...as leXX said nothing is known to happen in the future, there is no equation in predicting what will happen...it is all about here and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 First thing...that astral cord business is mroe spiritual than anything. Not that I'm discrediting the powers of the mind, but for now, lets stick to proven fact About multiple universes or dimensions...this theory is that each decision we make splits the universe in as many ways as there are answers...even nonsensical ones...pick a number 1-10. You can say 'fish' so theoretically, infinite number of dimensions just formed. By theory, time travel is possible if we travel past light speed. But, as we approach light speed, mass is added to whatever is travelling, thus causing it to slow down. It is not impossible, however. If I'm not mistaken, we know that the universe expanded faster than the speed of light when it was just formed. So maybe we can fold space around us with some sort of as yet uninvented device. Of course, that would only give us read-only space travel, which would produce the non-interaction you guys were mentioning earlier...as well as rule out quantum whats-its, multiple universes, paradoxes, and the earlier 'experiment'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Time Travel back in time is NOT possible. Time travel forwards is theoretically possible, and then there's the whole possibility of infinite multiverses, which is a concept i dont care much for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Originally posted by GonkH8er Time Travel back in time is NOT possible. Time travel forwards is theoretically possible Well, backwards is like I said(theoretically), but I'm travelling forward in time right now ;D You aren't thinking fourth dimensionally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datheus Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Well, the way the theorize time travel now, is YES, it IS possible to travel backwards... but when you do so, you have to think of time as a river... You travel back in time.. or back up the river.. and whatever you do to change the world at the time (possibly just ARRIVING), it creates a new branch in the river.. creating that whole new parrallel universe, where the world continues on accordingly to what was changed.. so based on that theory, it'd almost IMPOSSIBLE to meet yourself from the future, because while time travel backwards is possible, the way you branch off and things change... if you left a note in this universe.. you might still meet yourself.. only in a different universe than this one.. because see, if soemone traveled ever further back.. there could be 6, 7, 8, .. a MILLION different branches ALL at this current time period. And also.... just because you want to go into space does not mean you can.. it's expensive, why would time travel be any easier to be allowed to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NerfYoda Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Waitasec.. so what's the theory that says traveling back in time is possible? Let's see some evidence, buddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinWalker Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Since matter cannot be created nor destroyed you can't appear into thin air 10 minutes in the past There you have it. That one statement (which I somehow managed to remember on my college chemistry final) helps clear it up. As far as the earlier statement about "same matter in the same space," I was attempting to create a hypothesis that answered "by who" when someone said "you're forbidden from meeting yourself." I wasn't actually talking about a set of molecules being in the same point as another set so much as I was the SAME molecules being in PROXIMITY as an earlier version of themselves. Between the Conservation Law and Jah's point about the mass of the universe being altered, I think that's the same idea. It gives rise to the questions: 1) would travelling back in time to an earlier point that you were alive create two universes by the change in mass? The point/time of origin loses mass while the point/time of destination gains mass. Prior to this, both points/times were equal in mass.... now they are different. 2) If it's not possible to create a separate universe through time travel to the past, does that mean that the mass of the universe includes Past Mass + Current Mass? If so, then Past Mass + Current Mass = Amount. That means that if you subtract a portion of Current Mass and add it to Past Mass, Amount doesn't change. (BTW, I'm sure the math is more difficult, but I got a D in Analytic Geometry). 3) If # 2 is correct, then is Reverse Time Travel Possible? 4) If # 1 is correct, does that make whoever travels back into time the Creator of a Universe and thus a god? :-) Actually, I just through that last bit in to screw with those of you who are theologically minded. I'm sure that there is a ton more that isn't being considered here and that Stephen Hawking would ELOL (electronically laugh out loud) at our discussion. It's cool to note that this thread hit 2 pages in just one day. But Datheous: it creates a new branch in the river.. creating that whole new parrallel universe Where do the parallel universes reside? If sets a, b, c, and d are all subsets of A, does that make a, b, c, and d parallel universes and A an Überuniverse? Ha! This thread'll never stop! I'm going over to a parallel thread...... Skin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NerfYoda Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Originally posted by SkinWalker 2) If it's not possible to create a separate universe through time travel to the past, does that mean that the mass of the universe includes Past Mass + Current Mass? If so, then Past Mass + Current Mass = Amount. That means that if you subtract a portion of Current Mass and add it to Past Mass, Amount doesn't change. (BTW, I'm sure the math is more difficult, but I got a D in Analytic Geometry). 3) If # 2 is correct, then is Reverse Time Travel Possible? According to prevailing theory (if I remember correctly) the amount of mass in the universe at any given time is a constant. Your appearance in the past would have to come at the expense of some other mass in the past. This leads one to believe... a) That some kind of magical fusion of air molecules or molecules in a coffee table or a few hundred GBAs or whatever would result in a duplicate of you in the past, complete with your identity and memory. Good luck. b) You set aside a certain amount of mass in the present from which sometime in the future you will use to create a duplicate of you in the "past". It all sounds farfetched, so I would conclude that reverse time travel is not possible, just like negating the gravitational pull of the earth isn't possible. Its a natural law. It can't be broken. Although I just re-read your statement. You're referring to the total mass of the universe at all possible times as a constant, which is also true and negates all that mumbo jumbo I just wrote. Ahh hell I need to get back into a physics class or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 But time travel backwards into our current universe, ignoring all displacement of matter, is impossible. The butterfly effect would occur, whereby 1 small change instigates a larger one, and in turn more larger ones, until everything is totally different. Your very presence would change the position of air molecules, clouds, storms, everything. This would immedietely result in you NOT travelling back in time when you did, thus creating a mega f-up as it were. Only through the existence of alternate universes would time travel into the past be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datheus Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Bah, technicallities, technicallities... we're gonna nuke ourselves anyway, let a boy enjoy his fantasy, Nerf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 I second that! This is all a moot point anyway, we can't even accelerate particles faster than the speed of light much less ourselves. Let's all believe whatever the hell we want to. You believe the Easter Bunny lives at the center of the moon? Good for you. Who's with me? Or at least lets focus our talk to jumping forwards through time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Why? So we can play the JK2 expansion? sounds like a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacky_Baccy Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Certainly does - I'm in *sets about making his time travelling machine according to designs by a "Leonard" fella he met in a pub once* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Well, that and lotto numbers but I like the way you think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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