C'jais Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Cannabis=Hash, marijuana, skunk and a bunch of other names I've no clue about. I think cannabis is the lesser evil compared to alcohol. -You don't get more aggressive by smoking. -You stay in relative control of your body, you don't get "numb" like with alcohol. The only reason alcohol is legal and cannabis isn't, is because of tradition - it has always been accepted that it's okay to drink your brains out, and consequently, there'd be an outcry if alcohol was made illegal. If a drug was introduced, that had the same effects as alcohol, it'd be made illegal instantly. Cannabis, OTOH, is only illegal because people are afraid of the mental disorders, which are as bad as alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacky_Baccy Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Are you trying to split the Swamp in two with all these controversial threads? I say legalise it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylilin Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 As Peter Tosh once sang: "Legalize It" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted November 9, 2002 Author Share Posted November 9, 2002 Originally posted by Wacky_Baccy Are you trying to split the Swamp in two with all these controversial threads? Hehe, thanks for noticing! No seriously, I just a hadden burst of thread ideas.... I'm gonna save the last one for later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacky_Baccy Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 There aren't all that many more highly controversial topics I can think you might post about... I wonder which it'll be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted November 9, 2002 Author Share Posted November 9, 2002 Originally posted by Wacky_Baccy There aren't all that many more highly controversial topics I can think you might post about... I wonder which it'll be... Think religion BTW - I mainly did this because the swamp yet again has become bogged down with "a little game to play" threads and other such instant entertainment. My threads never live long though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NerfYoda Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Legalize it Pot laws fill the jails needlessly. Its not (that) bad for you. This would also drive the price down (god willing ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacky_Baccy Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Posted by cjais Think religion Oh dear BTW - I mainly did this because the swamp yet again has become bogged down with "a little game to play" threads and other such instant entertainment. I'm very glad you did it - it's a nice change, and it makes (some of) us actually think for a change My threads never live long though It seems that the worthwhile threads rarely do nowadays... So, are you only going to do religion after this? --Edit-- Posted by NerfYoda This would also drive the price down (god willing ) LMFAO I like the way you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-s/<itzo- Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 What pisses me off is all these people sitting there saying marijuanna shouldn't be legal, it's bad for you. But are those same people saying booze should be legal. Alcohol has proven over and over that it kills people and destroys peoples lives. But yet these alcoholics can go into a bar at six in the morning and sit there drinking until 1 or 3 in the morning and then drive home where they will undoubtley kill an innocent person. But there are no government officials enforcing laws on the booze. Our country sits here in a defecit of billions. We spend 6 billion dollars a year burning down pot fields, instead of spending 6 billion dollars cracking down on meth labs or getting killers off the streets. Do you realize how much revenue marijuanna would bring if people got their heads out of their asses. So all you complaining shouldn't be legal don't you think we'd better get every pain pill off the shelves? Because it give you the same effect and also can become very addictive and deadly. Take to many and you are dead. Do you also realize that the government are taking away farmers loans, you know the ones who grow the corn you eat at dinner, or that big fat steak you're eating, they are taking away their money and reposing farms, and putting it towards what. Wtf will you eat in five years. As I sit here smoking a cigarette I think, why the hell is that legal??? There's a warning label on the side of the pack that tells me I will get cancer from smoking them. And guess what, you want to talk about addiction. I can't go three hours before I get all antsy. And yet that is okay. God I'm tired of all the stupidity!!! While children starve from their own country, the government is spending billions on the war against dope, and millions on trying to make third world countries our allies. Pots not the problem, the government is!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstar__2 Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 it's already legal here:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Of course legalise it. I smoked from the ages of 16 to 25 and I only stopped because I wanted kids. In all that time, it never did me any harm whatsoever. It is a hell of a lot less dangerous than alcohol and if that is legal, I don't see any reason why weed shouldn't be. The fact that it is illegal makes no difference to ppl who want to smoke it anyway and 9 times outta 10, ppl who get caught are just given a warning. Bob Marley wrote all his songs while stoned...nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediNyt Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Negative. Drugs are bad, drugs are bad. Do more positive things. Recreation is the way to go. Its natural, its cool, it pumps you up, and makes you feel good. Oh and play computer games, learn stuff, go to movies, go to SW conventions! ...........uh na man...I jus wanna get stoned...heh heh...heh he. Wow dude whadda great lifffe...I just do **** and dont do ****...hehe... Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Even though the drug marketing side of it is bad, I don't seem a lot of harm with legalising it. Ultimately it will do more good than harm:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Originally posted by cjais The only reason alcohol is legal and cannabis isn't, is because of tradition - it has always been accepted that it's okay to drink your brains out, and consequently, there'd be an outcry if alcohol was made illegal. Alcohol doesnt kill brain cells... Pot does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Originally posted by ZDawg Alcohol doesnt kill brain cells... Pot does. Originally posted by JediNyt Negative. Drugs are bad, drugs are bad. Do more positive things. Recreation is the way to go. Its natural, its cool, it pumps you up, and makes you feel good. Oh and play computer games, learn stuff, go to movies, go to SW conventions! ...........uh na man...I jus wanna get stoned...heh heh...heh he. Wow dude whadda great lifffe...I just do **** and dont do ****...hehe... Nuff said. *ZDawg Starts Clapping* Bravo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjølen Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Um... why get high and kill yourslef when it's more fun to PRETEND to be high, then you can remember it! In otherwards, legalize it? Um... riiiiight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reb Starblazer Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Legalize it... nope, I'm not completly for that. Decriminalize it, control it, treat it as a problem for people instead of sending them off to jail with a mandotory minimun sentance(thank you SOAD), sure, I'm up for that. In Canada, Marijunana isn't legal, nor is it decriminalized(not yet anyway...). But, we do treat it more as a disease, or a problem. Drug addicts get sent to rehab and the like, for help, not sent to rot in a jail cell. Alcoholics get helped by society, not immediately sent to jail, why should drug addicts be any different? In most provinces in Canada, if you have less than a quarter ounce found on your person, the police don't care. They've got bigger problems than some kid smokin' a J. Now, if you've got a couple pounds, with intention to traffic it, you're pretty much screwed. We don't punish the kids who're smoking the drugs, we punish the people selling it to them. But say for example, that it does become legal here, or dare I say it, in the States. Think about all the money that the Government could make. They could have certain farmers licenced to grow it, harvest it, and sell it to perhaps Drug Stores and Pharmacies(Hey, I've seen Pharmacies that sell Cigarettes, so this isn't so far fetched...) The goverment could impose taxes on pot, just like on booze and cigs, and bam, a sudden influx of extra tax dollars for the economy. The prices would probably fall a LOT compared to now, and all the people who smoke pot, would then buy it from the goverment, once they're of a certain age of course, and they should only be allowed to smoke so much of it and drive. I know so many people who say it doesn't affect their driving, but sorry, it does. Just like booze, it affects your reaction time, so there should be a limit. So all in all, decriminalize it? Sure. Legalize it? Possibly. Control it? Most definitely. Oh, and by the way. I have honestly never done drugs of any kind. Never have, never will. So don't say I'm biased. Thank you for your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XERXES Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 legalize it...im eating right now otherwise id go into detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Warrior Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 well thgis shouldnt even warrant a thread, the fact that its illegal is utterly ridiculous. imho caffeine is more dangerous, (it probably is too!) alcohol is CERTAINLY far more dangerous and antisocial, best thing to do is allow everyone to make an informed choice as to whether or not they smoke dope, educate everyone as to the effects of this drug and then let them make their own decision. In fact this is the way i feeel about all drugs:- including heroin coke lsd etc. Once people are armed with the knowledge of what these drugs do, then misuse is not an issue. people should have the right to make their own choices is my point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Originally posted by Reb Starblazer Oh, and by the way. I have honestly never done drugs of any kind. Never have, never will. So don't say I'm biased. Aye, Me Either... it has never been somthing i wanted to do... If i was going to go and do somthing stupid like have sex (before i was married) i wouldnt want to be stoned out of my mind and not remember it... or dunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Talliusc Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 so many things to say. ok well here it goes: i think that it should be legalized. mainly because those who smoke it WILL smoke it and keeping it illegal drives the price up and puts money in the druglords stash. i also dont think it should be treated like alcohol. it shouldnt be served in bars at all. it should be sold by the government to those who want it. at a reasonable price. BUT if you were to buy it from the government you must sign up your name and give your information so that the government can track you and prevent you from selling it, and treat you if necessary. While pots effects are different from those of alcohol im not going to say that they are less or more dangerous. pot may effect some ppl worse then others and its effects tend to last for several days (not as a high but ppl are burnt out and not at 100% for the following week if stuff is strong enough). i know ppl who have smoked themselves stupid and they are only in highschool. their marks have dropped 30% and all they do is weed. it should have a legal age limit no smoking till ur 20 or something. weed also leads to other harder drugs. not in all cases *the only thing it leads to in ALL cases is snack food but in many cases all the same. i think that pot is one thing that a fair number of the population will try at some point, its an experiment and it can be very helpful for some ppl. but there are some ppl that imo should not touch the stuff. it can ruin lives and should be treated as such. im not sure what this forums rules are on discussing personal experiences with illegal drugs so i wont mention any, but i will say that ill never do it again. if you want to try it then maybe you should, but dont let yourself fall into it too hard. ive lost a few friends to drugs, first it was just the small stuff but now one of thems doing crack and blew up a car last semester with a cherry bomb during lunchbreak. his life is pretty much over now, only the shell of what used to be. if its going to be legalized then the gov needs to be VERY careful with it, its dangerous and cant be entrusted to just anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Warrior Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Talliusc if its going to be legalized then the gov needs to be VERY careful with it, its dangerous and cant be entrusted to just anybody. as careful as they are with alcohol or caffeine they are both addictive unlike ganja... also, regarding your comments about your friend going on crack... what has that to do with ganja? it isnt a gateway drug man, believe me if anything ganja has turned me off the harder stuff. I used to do a LOT of ecstasy's coke and amphetamines. weed was like a breath of fresh air. no joke there is something about weed that gets you in tune with the "real world" *puts soapbox away and rolls a fat one* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reb Starblazer Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Originally posted by Jah Warrior as careful as they are with alcohol or caffeine they are both addictive unlike ganja... also, regarding your comments about your friend going on crack... what has that to do with ganja? it isnt a gateway drug man, believe me if anything ganja has turned me off the harder stuff. I used to do a LOT of ecstasy's coke and amphetamines. weed was like a breath of fresh air. no joke there is something about weed that gets you in tune with the "real world" *puts soapbox away and rolls a fat one* No, ganja actually is addictive. While not physically addictive like Alcohol or Caffiene, it is very mentally addicitve. I know plenty of people who are addicted to it, and admit to it. People who's hands are shaking nervously, because they need to smoke a joint, people who can't wait to get out on lunch break so they can get stoned again. It is addictive. And if pot was not a gateway drug for you, in fact it was the opposite, then you are a very rare type indeed. Marijuana is the most common gateway drug in the world. Multiple studies, polls, questionaires have shown it, most people start with pot and then decide that it's not enough anymore, and move on to the harder stuff. It is nice to hear that you got off all that nasty crap though Jah:) But, like I said earlier, I'm not against you in this fight. While I don't feel that things like Heroin and Cocaine should be legalized, I do think that Marijuana is not nearly as bad, and could possibly be decriminalized somewhat. But, it should be controlled. Just like alcohol and ciggarettes, and anything else that's potentially dangerous. So I'm not flaming you Jah, we're both kinda going for the same thing here, just in different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted November 10, 2002 Share Posted November 10, 2002 Don't legalize it. It is really bad for you, just as alcohol and tobacco is. Though slowly, it will kill you. And I see no reason to encourage people to use this. As said before weed also leads to heavier drugs. I also want tobacco and certain types of alcoholic drinks illegal. Simply because it kills you, and I see no reason for people to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted November 10, 2002 Author Share Posted November 10, 2002 Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn Don't legalize it. It is really bad for you, just as alcohol and tobacco is. Though slowly, it will kill you. And I see no reason to encourage people to use this. As said before weed also leads to heavier drugs. I also want tobacco and certain types of alcoholic drinks illegal. Simply because it kills you, and I see no reason for people to use it. Qui, I can agree with you that both alcohol, tobacco and hash is bad for your body. However, many people need some kind of uplifting drug - something that makes them forget the worldly needs for a moment. And between hash and beer, hash is the lesser evil. But yes, everything taken to excess is bad for you - everything in this world and the next. I have an idea for a system to legalize all drugs - another thread idea to be posted soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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