00M-187 Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Just watching ROTJ and noticed something I havent noticed before. Luke uses Grip on the Gamoreans when he enters Jabbas palace!! If you listen closely you can even hear the sound. He even looks like a Sith with the Black Cloak. He rolls up all ****y and acts pretty damn arrogant to be a Jedi... Luke would have been an awesome Sith. Wonder what it would be like if he accepted Vaders offer and they offed the Emperor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skate Boy Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Yep, I've seen that before. He would have made a cool sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mex Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 This thread has done before, but I will still tell you why... _______________ The jedi use powers to defend their selfs Sith do not Luke was using grip to keep them away! And Jedi-Sith have the same powers, but use them in different ways. _______________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hekx Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 I read something a while ago.. (haven't been able to find it I'll post a link when I do) That a Jedi Apprentice can use both sides of the Force (like the Shadow / Gray Jedi theory of balancing the force to use both sides equally) until they come to the end of their path and choose either Light or Dark. Luke wouldn't have lasted long as a Sith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kstar__2 Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 i always thought he was "pushing" them back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skate Boy Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Nope if you listen closly you can hear the "Grip" noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-s/<itzo- Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 only dark jedis and siths can use force lightning and grip? but why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Originally posted by -s/<itzo- only dark jedis and siths can use force lightning and grip? The moment a "light" jedi starts using these, it is dubious whether he's really a jedi after all. I think Luke used "grip" to gently move the gamorreans back a 'lil, is all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 ^I think Jais is right. Luke didn't kill the guards, he merely pulled them aside. Well, Luke was still a Jedi in training anyway. Anakin was only still a padawan when he murdered all of those Tusken Raiders, yet he still became a Jedi before turning to the darkside. There is no strict law to say that Jedi can't use certain force powers. They can use them all probably, but have been taught not to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomHelix Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 and actually, choking isnt the darkside unless it is not provoked. if he needs to get away, he can use it. and to this thread topic, NO $h!t HE USED THE DARK SIDE IN THE MOVIE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00M-187 Posted December 3, 2002 Author Share Posted December 3, 2002 He even acts like a Sith, Telling Jabba he's going to destroy him, and this is the last mistake you'll ever make. He Even looks like a Sith. He is practically turned. When he battles Vader he is using the darkside... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Homer Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Lucas has said that he was thinking of what a cowboy wears when he really mean business...black, so that's why Luke was dressed in black....and he did use grip...if you look, the guards grab their throats like they can't breathe...I also agree with all above about using it to move them aside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 THERE ARE NO FORCE POWERS!!! they are a game invention! GRRRRRRRRRRRR i hate it ... it confuses people theres no such thing as them .... dark siders tend to act offensively ... light siders defensively ... that is what makes their actions dark/light side ... not the actions themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00M-187 Posted December 3, 2002 Author Share Posted December 3, 2002 Originally posted by Clem THERE ARE NO FORCE POWERS!!! they are a game invention! GRRRRRRRRRRRR i hate it ... it confuses people theres no such thing as them .... dark siders tend to act offensively ... light siders defensively ... that is what makes their actions dark/light side ... not the actions themselves There are force powers. Mind trick, grip, push, pull etc, they are in the movies just as they are in the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 of course luke killed the guards, they both were clearly choking, it's just as vader did to many incompetent admirals. i thought Hekx Noxu explanation was quite good. however i go with 'he did it 'cause GL thought it would be cool' simple as that really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 theyre not force powers ... theyre how the jedi manipulate the force they dont think "mind trick" and say stuff they dont think "push" etc. its just so its useable in the game i dont think he killed the guards ... i imagine he let them go as vader did with blokie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Talliusc Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 i agree that force powers dont exist. its just how the user manipulates the living force around them, its not the skill thats dark, its the USE and INTENTION of that skill that makes it dark. force grip could be just as useful at popping the top of a persistent ketchup bottle and despite what you say that would NOT be considered evil. that said however i think that luke used the darkside vs vader in the end of rotj, he went nuts. just like i think obi was leaning dark after the death of qui gon. he was acting way more offensively and yelled pretty damn loudly. all signs say obi was angry and anger causes violent emotions and with a jedi that generally means violence or meditation, guess which obi used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRtY $oUtH™ Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 I think Yoda would have been the best Sith of all. Thats why my name is Darth Yoda! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthweaver Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 it's true that there are no force powers you only maipulate it. i think it's if the force is used in anger it is dark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-s/<itzo- Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 how bout mimes. light or dark force??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00M-187 Posted December 4, 2002 Author Share Posted December 4, 2002 Originally posted by -s/<itzo- how bout mimes. light or dark force??? Mimes??????????????????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XERXES Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 how utterly...intriguing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hekx Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 Mimes use the Darkside Force Rope and Force Box to fool their enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightspeed Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 I mever noticed the choking sounds untill I went back and listened for them:D I guess i'd better pay more attention to detail in future movies:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiRtY $oUtH™ Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 I mever noticed the choking sounds untill I went back and listened for them Well, after watching it as many time as I have, you have to notice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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