pbguy1211 Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 thanks george lucas... i just watched, for the first time ever, the digitally remastered episode VI... thanks george lucas... thanks for shattering my childhood... thanks for destroying this movie... thanks for making my memories just that, memories... what the hell was so wrong with the original that this needed to be so altered in such a way that it barely resembles the original? thanks for giving me a reason to hate you now even moreso after these latest 2 pieces of garbage you put in front of me and labelled "starwars" thanks a lot... thanks for nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 Ah...I don't get it. Didn't he just redo some graphics and stuff to make it look prettier? What is wrong with that? At least he didn't change the story or anything (did he?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 The only thing I really minded is the change he made to Han in the Cantina... Greedo shot first, dangit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmjedi Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 I'm with you wassup he really **cked up the movie but touching it up a little. You know what. He should of just left it alone so that the Original film could just degrade and turn to dust. He was just making it look better. Geez some people these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiMP RABBiT Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 I know what you mean about the canteena. Why would a bounty hunter miss someone by so far at such a close range. Its just plain stupid. I did like the addition of Jabba though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 well.. i didnt min anything about the movie.... the only thing is what boba already said,,, han shoot have shot first.,... i loved the rest... i saw the YT-2400 of Dash Rendar.. and i thought it was cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmjedi Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 I liked that too. They added so many things but I wish it was on DVD so that we could zoom in and get better quality images. You could also watch them more slowly. I can't wait till it comes out but I bet there are going to be people that are going to complain about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuuki Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 Originally posted by wassup Ah...I don't get it. Didn't he just redo some graphics and stuff to make it look prettier? What is wrong with that? At least he didn't change the story or anything (did he?). well how about the fact that techonogy in the laste 1970's earily 1980's arent as nearly as good as there are today maybe Lucas wanted taht extra stuff in there the first time around, but couldn't do it *cough*budget*cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 He's talking about RotJ... I don' town that one or ESB SEs, only ANH. Only scenes I remember altered is Jabba's Palace (a lot better than puppets, some CCG guys in there) and new music in it. Then they changed the Ewok song. Then they showed Coruscant! That was its big debut, a teaser of what's to come in the PT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon_sleeper Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 I think the reason ppl are so bothered is because the new ones aren't nostalgic to us. they're new. And the nostalgia is where most of our joy came from when watching the originals. I don't really think the films themselves are hurt by it. In fact, I think they're improved. Just the emotional throw back we feel when watching the originals isn't there anymore, because it's so new. Change is hard to deal with, in any form. I think evidence of this (and I tried this with 2 ppl) is to get someone that's never seen EITHER version, then have them watch both. Both people I had do this said the SE was much, much better. That's because both versions are new to them, so they have a more unbiased view. anyway, that's my probably wrong opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Hey, I saw the SEs 2 years after seeing SW for the first time. They were great to me! And since I'm still some what young, I like the prequels and don't let bad acting (not to much if you think about it, just a few main characters) affect my outlook on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueZTone Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 booyah dont be such a baby the changes are mostly for the better, don't whine you overgrown......twilok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckcsaber Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 The storm grows thicker. An increasing flurry of I hate George Lucas/ Star Wars threads have been sighted. 2 words….. SHUT UP I’m tired of all these stupid threads about how GL is bad, SW sux, etc.. pbguy1211, you’ve made this thread in other forums too, and I’m getting tired of seeing them. Jeez, it was so damn bad because we got to see the amazing OT on the big screen. What a shame. You know, if it wasn’t for the SE, many ppl would not have ever seen the OT on a movie screen. Yes some changes were made and most of them were good. The only one I can think of is, as Rhett has mentioned time and time again:D , that Greedo shot first. Han Solo was not supposed to be some “moral” guy. He would shoot first. In conclusion, George Lucas = great, Star Wars = great, people that complain about great things = fools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Originally posted by QueZTone booyah dont be such a baby the changes are mostly for the better, don't whine you overgrown......twilok please don't flame him, he's entitled to his own opinion, and I don't think calling him funny names will change that. Now be nice and take him to a hotel. <---JUST KIDDING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 and take him to a hotel. to do what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Originally posted by wassup to do what? lol Yeah, this thread is bad. I too am sick of it all. If you hate Lucas so much, why are you a member of... *drumroll* LucasForums. Just a thought for all of those who make these threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 well.. everybody is entitled to an opinion... whether people agree with it or not. if you dont like the thread.. ignore it and dont post in it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbguy1211 Posted January 17, 2003 Author Share Posted January 17, 2003 Originally posted by Carbon_sleeper I think the reason ppl are so bothered is because the new ones aren't nostalgic to us. they're new. And the nostalgia is where most of our joy came from when watching the originals. Thank you... if you saw it growing up as a chilc when it first came out in the theater you'd have a different perspective on the situation. Originally posted by QueZTone the changes are mostly for the better, don't whine you overgrown......twilok I'd like you to explain exactly how the changes are for the better. Originally posted by ckcsaber pbguy1211, you’ve made this thread in other forums too, and I’m getting tired of seeing them. Jeez, it was so damn bad because we got to see the amazing OT on the big screen. What a shame. You know, if it wasn’t for the SE, many ppl would not have ever seen the OT on a movie screen. Yes some changes were made and most of them were good. The only one I can think of is, as Rhett has mentioned time and time again , that Greedo shot first. Han Solo was not supposed to be some “moral” guy. He would shoot first. In conclusion, George Lucas = great, Star Wars = great, people that complain about great things = fools Oh this'll be fun... you didn't see the original 3 on the big screen. You saw altered versions of Star Wars movies. If it was original it wouldn't have to have been changed. And it didn't have to be changed. The changes and additions were made for the sake of showing off ILM and giving some sort of reasoning for making a lot of his new 3. There's no rule that states older movies can't be reshown "as is" from their initial state. Do you realize how many movies are re-released years after they've been out? Disney does it all the time for one... Your conclusion is based on no facts so it's going to be useless to even argue it... but here it goes anyway... George Lucas is not great. He has a great special effects team in ILM, no doubt... but his script was so weak, his casting was awful, and he's re-writing history as he goes along for whatever reason (I seriously can't understand why he needs to re-write history, a good history, there's no NEED to do it). And his "monsters" and their placing is a complete joke. Did you watch the special crap on the episode 2 dvd? The part where he selects a monster out of about 20 ones already made to be Dexter? He never even had an idea in mind, he didn't make it up or think about it.... he just picked something out of the blue... yeah, that's "great"... I'm done... for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 Originally posted by Katarn07 lol Yeah, this thread is bad. I too am sick of it all. If you hate Lucas so much, why are you a member of... *drumroll* LucasForums. Just a thought for all of those who make these threads. that has nothing to do with the entire topic. the lucasforums are a great deal about the games Lucas arts makes. this is just an extra forum to discuss certain issues wether you like or dislike them. and if you hate threads like these... dont post in them. ignore them. @ pbguy1211: i respect your oppinion.. i also thought that some things changed were realy idiotic. like the greedo shot.. the jabba scene.. and the very first aproach on the city.. the rest of the special way to the city rocked. in ESB.... i cant find anything that sucked... i loved it also in RoTJ.. was cool Now ofcourse you have to see that the technology is advancing so far that they could make ep1 and ep2 the way they did. i loved ep2... but i agree with you they should have made it the old fashion way.... it all looks to new. my 2 cents -Wraith 8- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 I really enjoyed the prequels, being able to see star wars on the big screen for the first time [tho i did get to see anh special edition on big screen right when i became a huge sw fan], and then The Phantom Menace came out. I remember collecting those cans, and then the movie came out, I went to see it...and was blown away. Seeing Jedi in action and what life was like before the empire was a great experience. I wasn't as excited about attack of the clones, but that was just as good. But of course, this is all just my opinion. I didn't see anything wrong with the special edition, however, I agree that the song in return of the jedi being changed was a BAD MOVE, but other than that it was all good. The ending of return of the jedi was changed too, but i liked it more, it showed Coruscant for the first time, a T-16 Skyhopper flying over tatooine, and people celebrating at Cloud City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 The only bit that bothered me is when Han stood on Jabba's tail. That just looked so stupid. Everything else was fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbguy1211 Posted January 17, 2003 Author Share Posted January 17, 2003 All I am saying, is that if you saw them in the theaters as a child about 1000 times each... and now you see them changed for no reason... you'd be upset too... Originally posted by leXX The only bit that bothered me is when Han stood on Jabba's tail. That just looked so stupid. Everything else was fine. It was kind of funny... but it did make him seem a little less like a "gangster"... but you do know WHY he stood on his tail, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 Try to secure the originals on VHS then. I own the ones that came out in 95, and only one SE. Why does updated graphics ruin it? In ESB, would you rather se Leia walking surrounded by a matte painting of cloud city, looking like the Emerald City from Wizard of Oz, or would you wanna see a place that looks real, and a cloud car fly by that looks real. If you want the original, get the originals then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 Originally posted by pbguy1211 It was kind of funny... but it did make him seem a little less like a "gangster"... but you do know WHY he stood on his tail, right? Yes I know WHY. The original footage was of Han walking with a man (Jabba) and Han walked around him. To get around this when they digitally put fat Jabba on, they had to think of a way to compensate for Han doing this so they made him step on his tail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 That Jabba looks way to young after seeing TPM. They had better redo him for the DVD release... Along with a whole load of other stuff. (Palpatine's face and voice in ESB, redo Mos Eisely [looks like crap compared tot the prequels, really early CG art by them I think...], etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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