Mr Cheese Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 The carnival was a curse LeChuck put on Guybrush? It's so obvious why LeChuck put him there. What does Guybrush hate most in the world (other than porcelain) ? Authority. He has hated almost every person who has power over him (except Elaine, but she doesn't count) that's why he's a pirate. So what could be better than an alternate reality in which he is a little kid with no power whatsoever trapped inside a theme park with parents to tell him off whenever he does something piratey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Originally posted by Mr Cheese The carnival was a curse LeChuck put on Guybrush? It's so obvious why LeChuck put him there. What does Guybrush hate most in the world (other than porcelain) ? Authority. He has hated almost every person who has power over him (except Elaine, but she doesn't count) that's why he's a pirate. So what could be better than an alternate reality in which he is a little kid with no power whatsoever trapped inside a theme park with parents to tell him off whenever he does something piratey? So what was the whole sending Guybrush screaming to a world of infinte pain thing? Wouldn't THAT have been worse? Also Guybrush started to believe he was a little kid, that wouldn't have been half as bad as a grown adult being stuck in a kids body. Just a thought... Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I, for one, adored the MI2 ending. It was totally stoked. Not that anyone cares, since this thread is about as crusty as that disgusting frozen pizza in my freezer that's about a year after its "Sell By" date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabez Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Yeah it was a great ending. I just laughed though, because, you know, Monkey Island is basically a series of comedy games. Oh I also loved the list of things you could do now! Have a shouting match with your dog... haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murray the talkin skull Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Well I actually played them in a weird order: 3,4,1,2 So to me the ending to Monkey 2 was completely reasonable! Theres only one plot inconsistency in the whole series that annoys me, apart from that its just awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 What was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murray the talkin skull Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 The bit where in Monkey 1, Herman goes to Monkey Island with his navigator on the Sea monkey. But then, so that he can be H.T. Marley, in Monkey 4 he ends up being shipwrecked alone, not being able to remember anything before he got to the island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunff Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Hm...am I missing something here? I never even remembered the whole curse reference Elaine makes. I myself just think it's a red herring. No, I took the ending to be that MI 1 and MI 2 had been the daydream of some kid in a fairground. I've only had the opportunity to see the start of MI 3, but I just assumed he started daydreaming again. The whole Big Whoop, alternate universe thing is an interesting idea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey_05_06 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Well it's clearly obvious that Ron Gilbert is the only one who really knows what was going on...not Bill Tiller...not John Ackley...not anybody who isn't Ron Gilbert. However I know exactly what happened between LCR and CMI. But that's for a later date...I've got to get to bed. I have to get up in 7.5 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien426 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I hardly ever sleep more than 7 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey_05_06 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Yeah but school starts tomorrow. My senior year (Grade 12 for you non-United Statesians). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien426 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 ...and I gotta go to work, you wuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 You get paid for work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udvarnoky Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 The bit where in Monkey 1, Herman goes to Monkey Island with his navigator on the Sea monkey. But then, so that he can be H.T. Marley, in Monkey 4 he ends up being shipwrecked alone, not being able to remember anything before he got to the island. According to Herman in EMI, once he escaped the whirpool he was washed up "on the other side of the world," with no memory of who he was or where he came from. He actually doesn't say that it's Monkey Island, so there's no indication that he was stranded or trapped anywhere. He then says that he took the name Herman Toothrot from the letters on his accordion. It's my assumption that he went to Melee under this identity and during this time sailed along with another guy (the captain of the Sea Monkey who wrote the diary and accidentally hanged himself while putting up a swing) in hopes of finding the Secret of Monkey Island. The events of MI1 happen, and at the time of MI4 when Guybrush finds him he had suffered total amnesia from being it on the head with various things. Guybrush eventually cures his amnesia, not just by returning him his memory from since his days on Monkey Island but of his true idenity - Grandpa Marley - when he hits him with that accordion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Ah the old theory. You of course have to assume that he was so messed up when he found himself on Melee that no one recognised him to as the Governor he was and so couldn't jog his memory. But apart from that, yeah, that works. It's still annoying that one would have to come up with this huge theory just to explain the plot hole away, but if we didn't have that, what else would we have had to keep ourselves busy after it's release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udvarnoky Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Considering everyone thought he was dead and he probably looked a bit unkempt and different, I don't think it's such a hard sell. I'll admit the theory is somewhat convoluted, but not enough to convince me that the twist was a complete hack job thrown together to supply a cheap surprise for the story. It does work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Yeah, but it could have been better, it takes a great deal of thinking to get around what is initially, a gaping plot hole. Admit it, when you first saw that twist, something didn't quite add up at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udvarnoky Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Actually, when I first saw it I didn't even bother thinking about whether or not it made sense with the story of the past games. But yeah, I did think it was a plot hole later. And now I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummbuddy Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 When I first saw it, I burned my game disc 1. The rest went up in flames after Monkey Kombat. But I suppose it does work to fill in the plot hole, so thanks for sharing that. Now convince me that the giant monkey head being a robot isn't a plot hole, after you use its spine as steps under Monkey Island. Then, perhaps I'll play EMI once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udvarnoky Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Duh. The other hidden passage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Yeah, that one was pretty easy to get my mind around. Didn't make it any more annoying though. I have fond memories of the first time I slid down the throat of that Giant Monkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elTee Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I know this thread is really old, and I've kind of argued with Remi and Jake about this in the past, and despite all the evidence to the contrary, I still think that this is all just people getting carried away with the title. The Secret Of Monkey Island - sounds cool to me! I'll buy it. Then the secret would either be the location of Monkey Island itself, or maybe the fact that LeChuck lived there in a ghost ship. There might have been a long-running "plot" that could have been spread over three games, but to me that doesn't suggest that there is actually a secret that has only been alluded to. I mean, no-one quibbles about what "curse" means in The Curse of Monkey Island. I mean, technically it makes more sense as The Curse of Plunder Island, or The Curse of the Ring... but maybe not, because I can't remember a lot of the plot of CMI. Towards the end, anyway. So all that ghost-bride / theme park business might validate the title. It doesn't matter anyway, because all I'm trying to say is that people are reading too much into the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Perhaps LeChuck found the rind at MI, there's not a whole lot of explanation behind the curse, but that doesn't really matter. As for the Secret of Monkey Island, before I'd even laid eyes upon an Intgernet forum, I'd always assumed it was just a cool name and didn't have to mean much, I still loved the game. But Ron has said again and again (or at least hinted to) that there is a secret... but again, he could just be leading us on for the fun of it...I know I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien426 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Perhaps LeChuck found the rind at MI... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Alien426, taking the **** out of typos since 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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