AzureAngel Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Yes or No and please tell which ones for whic situations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinny Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 i find them useful for single in duels, and the katas for the other two saber types is good for ffa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Dravis Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 They generally leave you wide open in a duel, but if it's FFA/other, then they let you rack up some quick kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g//anarki Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Single is the most effective in duels when your opponent is attacking you head-on or if you got your opponent in a corner. I don't like the other saber type katas, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontlikegeorge Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I only play SP, but I like using a kata in the middle of a fight... don't start with one, but jump in, do some linked swings, maybe a duck or a roll, then a kata... usually, it gets the enemy, who was either about to attack me after a parry, or it forces him to go defensive, and if I have some force left over some lucky manipulation can knock him down for a killhit. Like everything, it has some use... yeah they can leave you open... I would think very much in MP, even... but there would be something beneficial about them, as well. Just gotta use the right thing at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 katas are super effective. But i hate those who spam katas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eniaC Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I find katas to be most useful in many situations, nice when paired with force pull or mindtrick. W/ blue stance(fast) after you start your kata hold crouch and forward then attack to go strait into the uppercut, when timed right can be very effective. The yellow stance(medium) kata for single is very nice as well because you actually take a few step covering more space. The red stance(strong) kata is handy, as well as doing the most damage of the three. Right after your katas(or even during them) hold to either side and jump to cartwheel right out of kata. I Don't use staff and dual barrier is basically useless I think. eniaC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro The Hutt Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 When used sparely and at the right time they can be quite effective in multiplayer They're very effective in single player ^.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remirol Nacnud Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I avoid using them because if you're opponents are concentrating on YOU, they can easily put you to a disadvantage. When I notice a kata starting, I get out of there. And if it's the dual sabre kata, I get back in there with an overhand smash when it's 'winding down'. I love it when that happens. Someone tries to do that kata in the middle of a group(and provided that the others are decent players) so everyone backs off, then all attack at about the same time. Then everyone is facing the exact same spot and starts slashing. Anyway, I hate being held to the spot by a move. It just makes you....well...a sitting duck. But they CAN be effective, especially with a bit of luck. Sometimes someone will start a kata whilst standing practically on me and won't do a thing, but sometimes the very edge of the sabre will catch me and I'm dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ASJN] Balboa Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 actually, Blue Kata is the strongest to balance the three. when some one with Staff or Dual does a crouch forward twirl attack, go to their side and use blue kata. insta death i assure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 yes they are.. plus they look cool a well-timed red kata always works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverhoodian Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Yes, katas are effective, particularly in SP. The blue stance kata allows you to still run around (not in MP though), so it's good for charging an opponent that's not prepared for such an attack. Its use is a bit more limited in MP, but there's a few opportunities to use it. I've killed opponents in Duel using Strong kata a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I only use the single saber, and in MP I find katas extremely useful, especially when timed right. They are great to use against an opponant that is overly aggressive. I usually do them just when a person runs up to you and starts to strike. Then, like a buzzsaw, I chop them down. But if you spam them, it leaves you open to attack. So I use them only when necessary. They are useful in SP as well, especially to clear out a crowded area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureAngel Posted October 30, 2003 Author Share Posted October 30, 2003 it appears that the single saber Katas are the most effective when used at the right moments and do not spam them or else you will be open this is what i have sumarized but please go on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remirol Nacnud Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 it appears that the single saber Katas are the most effective when used at the right moments and do not spam them or else you will be open this is what i have sumarized but please go on I wouldn't say that. The staff kata can move you around a lot, so you're not an easy target. But then I don't really know about that because I'm a single sabre kinda guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Originally posted by Remirol Nacnud I wouldn't say that. The staff kata can move you around a lot, so you're not an easy target. But then I don't really know about that because I'm a single sabre kinda guy. I was only refering to single saber katas, becaue really that is what I have the most experience with I agree with what you are saying about the staff kata. But the little I played with it I found it seemed to be harder to hit people, perhaps because I think you can see it coming a bit more. That is probably just me, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remirol Nacnud Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Sorry, I meant to quote the post below yours. What I said will make more sense once I've edited it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Fisher Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Kata are only effective if you can use them and not die. Especially in MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akshara Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 As I only use the saberstaff, I would have to say that Katas are an effective finishing move when the opponent is already beaten and showing desperate behaviour. They do leave one open to counter attack fairly easily. With the staff, though one does move quite a bit, it's in a predesignated direction that cannot be stopped once the move is committed. I've found the best time to use the staff Kata is when you sense that the opponent is going to charge - but not to soon, since it's easy to spot and avoid; and not to late, because the spin turns the back toward them and leaves one vulnerable to attack. Also, it is difficult to aim unless you try to anticipate where they are going to be instead of trying to hit where they actually are... that's it's best power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMeister Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I've played through SP on Jedi, Jedi Knight, and Jedi Master difficulties, and I found the katas relatively useless on Jedi Master, b/c the reborn would always kick me as I'm about to land the finishing blow. On the lower difficulty levels, its useful against the yellows and blue reborn but not particularly against the red ones. I watched my friend play MP but didn't think katas were of any use at all. BTW, I play SP with dualsabers so use of katas is mostly limited to the first two tiers. Even when I played SP with a single saber I didn't find myself using katas all that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiaSowapit Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I find katas extremely useful for Force Pushing overconfident Jedi to their doom. There's nothing more amusing than watching some turkey who's tinkered with yawspeed, helplessly twirling sabers as I introduce them to a map's ledge. Good stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Wookiee Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 If Kattas help me kill things, and they do, then I believe, YES, they are effective... Short and Sweet.... D_P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 The fact that doing a kata takes about half your force power, makes them seem (to me) hard to "spam". What people need to stop spamming is the use of the word spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureAngel Posted November 2, 2003 Author Share Posted November 2, 2003 Well if the server has g_forceregentime 0 then you can SPAM them(imagine that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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