El Sitherino Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin Don't blame the NJO makers on the Yuuzhan Vong. They wanted to use Sith, but GL would not allow it. really? I heard from a lot of people that it was del rey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Originally posted by InsaneSith really? I heard from a lot of people that it was del rey. Well, sort of. They did come up with the idea, but they would not have if not for GL. Their original idea was to use Sith as the enemies, but GL said that they could not do that. So then it was back to the drawing board, and that is when they came up with the Vong. They figured, that if they could not make the enemy a group that uses the dark side of the force, then they would make an enemy who does not use the force at all. So you see, they are not entirely responsible. And for those who say that GL does not care about EU, I have a thread to refer you to: http://lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1659183#post1659183 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Originally posted by Chase Windu Yuuzhan Vong and the entire NJO is one big heap of f***ing crap. The only people who like it are young people who don't know a flying f***ing crap about Star Wars. NJO has torn down a lot of what's great about Star Wars and also a lot of other, way f***ing better, EU. If you're going to kill off a charater as f***ing big as Chewbacca don't do it in the first f***ing book of the f***ing series. Wait a while to get more people hooked before you drop the big f***ing bomb. hmm...I'm 29, Ive been a SW nut since 1980. Ive read 99% of teh post Ep6 EU(havent read survivors quest yet) so you must be talking f***ing s**t.... which isnt a huge surprise, really ET, preshussss, well at least you read some of the books and are in a far better position to comment on why you dislike the series unlike others of course Sithy, the YV are are species that view machines as abominations, they destroy machines and droids with religious fervour, rather than 'assimilate or adapt their usefulness' like the borg. I think your comparison is a little off at the end of the day, to each their own ! If you dont like dont read it, and stop whinin because its as official as lit EU can get....so its here to stay mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Originally posted by Astrotoy7 If you dont like dont read it, and stop whinin because its as official as lit EU can get....so its here to stay fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rends Posted October 14, 2004 Author Share Posted October 14, 2004 To make it "EU official" doesn´t make the story better. It looks for me that a writer needed a very common name (StarWars) for his own story just to make sure that it will be a top seller. The Yuuzhan Vong stories might be interstings for those people who like it but the writer should have used his own imaginary world outside StarWars. The Space is big enough :-) Rends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 "It looks like" "might be" I'm going to have to ask you to read the first book, then say you don't like it. Because until you've read it, your complaints are worth zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 But MY complaints are worth five million And I think the Yuuzhan Vong are stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rends Posted October 14, 2004 Author Share Posted October 14, 2004 Nope, why should i read it if i don´t like the whole story in general. As i wrote it earlier single stories might be well written but for me they don´t fit into StarWars. Rends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Fisher Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 But if you didn't read even one of those books, how can you rightly judge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 But where would the world be without wild opinions based on limited knowledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Originally posted by Prime But where would the world be without wild opinions based on limited knowledge? Well the United States wouldn't be in Iraq right now... Ba dum TCHHHHHH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rends Posted October 14, 2004 Author Share Posted October 14, 2004 Guys, you didn´t get the point right? Read my first post! I don´t like the idea that just after one empire was defeated the next one shows up around the corner...just in time. There is enough confusion and chaos in the galaxy for the new and weak republic to deal with. And i still have no plan to buy and read one of those books. Rends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Originally posted by Rends Guys, you didn´t get the point right? Read my first post! I don´t like the idea that just after one empire was defeated the next one shows up around the corner...just in time. There is enough confusion and chaos in the galaxy for the new and weak republic to deal with. And i still have no plan to buy and read one of those books. Rends I think the readers had gotten very much sick of the typical story where some issue threatens to split the New Republic apart, and the Remnant tries to use this to make a come-back, but that unites the NR and all is right in the galaxy again (don't get me wrong, I love those stories, especially Hand of Thrawn). Other than create a new enemy or reuse plot concepts, their main choice was to right a book: For a long time nothing happened. The end. And for those who do not like the nature of the Yuuzhan Vong, read Traitor or The Unifying Force, there would be too many spoilers in any synopsis gave real insight into the Vong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Dravis Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Hey guys, it's just fiction, exactly like the movies. I like reading the EU, and even the *gasp* NJO, but even if you don't, there's no reason to get angry about it. Just read something else. I think anyone who gets angry when someone else enjoys something other than the same things they do are being completely childish. Arguments are useless - just read what you like, and who cares what someone on the internet that you're never going to meet thinks anyway. Thank you. [/PSA] *Except astro, 'cause...He lives in Australia!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rends Posted October 14, 2004 Author Share Posted October 14, 2004 Amen Rends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Originally posted by Rends Guys, you didn´t get the point right? Read my first post! I don´t like the idea that just after one empire was defeated the next one shows up around the corner...just in time. There is enough confusion and chaos in the galaxy for the new and weak republic to deal with. And i still have no plan to buy and read one of those books. Rends he he he. Rends, really, you should do some research before making silly comments. The YV turned up some 25 years after the ANH(IIRC).....The empire was well deferated at the end of ROTJ IMHO, thrawn was just a storm in a teacup..... One of the excellent things about the NJO was seeing the new republic(now called the GFFA) forge an alliance with the imperial remnant. Also, if you have read Rogue Planet, a novel set during the time of anakin skywalkers jedi training, there is evidence in that book of events leading up to the YV invasion. but still, you dont have to read the njo, but try avoid saying things without fully knowing about them, it will save you alot of hassle in life Prime nice comment ! ET I can feel a card coming on for you sir mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Originally posted by Astrotoy7 the new republic(now called the GFFA) forge an alliance with the imperial remnant. Imperials would never join the Republic scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rends Posted October 14, 2004 Author Share Posted October 14, 2004 Guys. It wasn´t my plan to make a flamefest here! The title of this topic just came into my mind after reading a bit about the YV story. So i wrote it.My fault. Well i´m a Star wars fan since 1977 when i watched the first movie as a ten years old child. Star Wars is still part of my life and enjoyed me so often and now i see my son growing as Star Wars fan too And that´s what Star Wars should be. Enjoy us in parts of our life. For hours, days or years. So i will apologize to all YV fans here! Even if YV is not my Star Wars it might be yours. I will accept it and i hope we can end this thread without beeing angry. Rends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 My take on the Yuuzhan Vong - I don't mind the EU. I just consider it like various theories from various people on what happened after Star Wars, before it and all around it. I never take into consideration that it did happen after Star Wars. So what happened before and after Star Wars? NOTHING. Nothing as long as GL makes a movie about it. But it does seem a bit ironical to put The Republic back to where it began, at the feet of some Galaxy-ruling bastards. That's it from me, for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 I thought we were gonna end this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Originally posted by Rends .... Well i´m a Star wars fan since 1977 when i watched the first movie as a ten years old child. are you tellin us you're 37 yo ! shyte ! ya old bugger ! I thought you were 13 mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rends Posted October 15, 2004 Author Share Posted October 15, 2004 Originally posted by Astrotoy7 are you tellin us you're 37 yo ! shyte ! ya old bugger ! mtfbwya Oh not yet! Next week young Padawan. My 37 birthday is next week! But in fact when it comes to Star Wars i still feel like 13 Rends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 i read vector prime and i didn't like it one bit. now people tell me that the NJO gets better after that, which is probably true. unfortunately I can’t get over how much I didn’t like VP... I just can’t read anymore books in the NJO series. i've never been a fan of star trek and from what i read from VP, and from what people tell me, that's what the NJO has become. which is fine if you like that sort of thing. i respect other people’s opinions. just because i think it crap doesn't mean it is crap, it just means I think its crap. tastes differ, it would be boring otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Yoinked* Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 crap. tastes *fauls to edit in:too 5H177Y for me, use this to translate* Never us ethose words next to eachother, even sepearted by punctuation, it is just wrong... -Adam G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightNinja Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 that just translates from english to l33t not l33t to english :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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