LukeKatarn Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 They should. I am homeschooler, and you don't see me going around hateing jews and blacks and stuff. I'm friends with a jew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothiX Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 ckcsaber, I didn't mean it as if I knew his life exactly, never said to do so either. I *do* tend to view people individually, I hate to be simply cathegorised myself as well. It's just my perception, that ZDawg nevr has seriously been in toch with people with views contrasting to his. And LukeKatarn; go you. That's ONE other religion, based on a lot of principals that are the same as protestant christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Fisher Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 I really don't get it. How come so many people think homeschooled kids are shut ins and cannot interact with other human beings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeKatarn Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 We are very well educated. Just look at my sister. 14 years old, and a SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL! That's where homeschooling got her because she would never be allowed sto skip grades or do two of em in the same year in public schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothiX Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 I skipped a grade in public school, so yeah, you're wrong. Sam Fisher; it's due to the fact that a lot of home-schooled kids actually are. There's more to the world than just people visiting the Swamp, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Fisher Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 But its election time, so I have to be on a lot right now And yes, I have a social life besides the internet. You know, a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mex Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Originally posted by LukeKatarn I have been homeschooling all my life... of course I'm only in 6th grade... Anyway I have quite good social skills and I don't just talk to people on the internet. I have friends, and I don't hate anyone for waht they look like, it is who they are. :xd: EWWWWWWWW! I SOUND LIKE A GIRL! :xd: BLECH! There, gross smileys. AM I a boy again now? How old are you? 5? 6? I can't work out these wierd American grades. I think homeschooling is tard to be honest, what fun is learning if you can't talk to your friends at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckcsaber Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Originally posted by GothiX Sam Fisher; it's due to the fact that a lot of home-schooled kids actually are. There's more to the world than just people visiting the Swamp, you know. Stop acting like you know people. Seriously. There is more to the world than visiting an internet forum, obviously. There is also more to the world than attending a public school. There are many different ways and places youth can interact with others. I was home schooled for about 1 semester due to a situation within my family. Obviously I do not have the "experience" of a full time "home schooler", but I have an idea of what it's like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothiX Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 What I meant was that the home-schooled people on the Swamp are not the only homeschooled people in this world. The ones I encountered on here are, by far, more social than the ones I know in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeKatarn Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Originally posted by Pal™ How old are you? 5? 6? I can't work out these wierd American grades. I think homeschooling is tard to be honest, what fun is learning if you can't talk to your friends at all. I'm 11, and school isn't about friends it's about learning. If you go to school just to get friends, they why do you go to school? School is for learning, and I have friends I just don't meet them at school. I do meet them in real life though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 In Reply to GothiX's Assumptions, which are FAR from correct, I have worked for a construction company since I was a young kid, and met everyone from the lunatic millionairs to the humble single mother. On a second note, I have travled the world several times, with the very IDEA to meet new people and talk about what they believe. I have a better Idea of how the world runs, and how other people think, than a majority of the Americans who sit around, and like you stated, get your info from a library book. I've been everywere from the Deep Jungles of South America, to the few tribes left in Australia, and down to South Africa. Like LukeKatarn said, school isnt life, and life goes beyond school. A Room with 30+ people of the exact same age, is a false evironment, were ealse in life will you find that same setting? certainly not the work place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Originally posted by ZDawg ...I have a better Idea of how the world runs, and how other people think, than a majority of the Americans who sit around, and like you stated, get your info from a library book... ...Like LukeKatarn said, school isnt life, and life goes beyond school. A Room with 30+ people of the exact same age, is a false evironment, were ealse in life will you find that same setting? certainly not the work place... No doubt you gained valuable insight from your real-world experiences. But one of the first rules of ignorance is not knowing what you don't know. To assume that you automatically know more than every single American (not sure why Americans were singled out) who has not traveled to the same places that you have, is a very arrogant and inflammatory statement, illustrating that perhaps you are not so wise as you believe yourself to be. With regard to the education of children, my wife has a degree in education, and actually taught elementary school for several years, before moving on to a more appreciative career. My point is that children do learn better when they are able to learn from and socialize with children of their own age. Equating children of the same age to working with people in the workplace of the same age is nonsensical, as that's not the purpose of that setting. Young children’s' minds develop at a very similar pace, hence it makes sense from a logistical and developmental point of view, to educate children of the same developmental level at the same time. Presuming that you are not an educator, I choose to believe the judgment of my wife, based on her university education and her experience actually educating children, over your time on the construction site and in the jungle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Originally posted by LukeKatarn They should. I am homeschooler, and you don't see me going around hateing jews and blacks and stuff. I'm friends with a jew! not at all. But (assuming your parents have any beliefs) your parents will naturally have emphasised the things that they believe in, and de-emphasised (or ignored) the things that they don't. They are only human after all. Teachers do the same of course, but are more limited in how much they can do it, and there are many more of them to even out the effect. I'm not saying they are, but your parents could be teaching you ANY LOAD OF RUBBISH, how would you know? They are your main source of info. They could have taught you that the world was flat and on the back of elephants... how would you know any different if they are pretty much your main source of information? The fact you have been taught that black people are black because of some weird "mark of cain" thing is a little worrying though... ;-) --------------- I'd say that 75% of school is about learning to socialise, make friends, make enemies, meeting wide ranges of people, etc... 25% might be about education. Not that you can't do all of those while homeschooled, but it has got to be harder. ------------------ Frankly, I'm amazed at the number of home schooled people on here. I have NEVER met a single person in real life who was homeschooled. Never even heard mention of one (except on the tv). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 there are things like group homeschooling...mothers bring their kids to this place like once a month for a meeting, and it's an opportunity to make friends....heh my mom brought me there and everybody there was like 5 years younger than me. i was pissed and never went again, except for the end of the year stanford tests that determined if I passed or failed that grade... I didn't get taught by my parents however. I used this curriculum that was made for computer. It did all the work for my mom pretty much. XD my grades were mostly above average on the tests. The worse thing about it from my experience, was there were not as many opportunities to make friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Originally posted by Sam Fisher I really don't get it. How come so many people think homeschooled kids are shut ins and cannot interact with other human beings? Not quite. The fact is, many of them do not (rather than cannot) interact with other human beings, except for the few their parents approve of. Not necessarily a wide selection, depending on the parents. I interacted with almost no one, except for brief encounters during say, Sunday school, and I know it's the same for a great many other homeschooled children (my mother was involved in that community). Although, the fact is there are a million variations of home schooling, since it's obviously not standardized like public school. Not every homeschooler is a shut-in...just most. And yes, if you're only exposed to one viewpoint through your entire life - that of your parents - you are a shut-in. We are very well educated. Just look at my sister. 14 years old, and a SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL! That's where homeschooling got her because she would never be allowed sto skip grades or do two of em in the same year in public schools. Yup. Although I only 'officially' skipped one grade, at about 6th grade I tested at maximum state grade reading level, 10th grade math level. On the other hand I never had the chance to develop any social skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 We are very well educated. Just look at my sister. 14 years old, and a SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL! That's where homeschooling got her because she would never be allowed sto skip grades or do two of em in the same year in public schools. Aside from the fact that public schools can and will skip kids ahead grades if their intellect allows it, I am a firm advocate against skipping multiple grades. There's a kid who was in my calc 3 class and is now in my physics class. I think he's 13 years old now. Woo hoo, he's smart. You know what else? I cannot STAND him. He is quite possibly one of the most annoying people I've ever met, because he doesn't know how to interact with the people he's around. He is a 13 year old surrounded by 20 year olds, he has NO real interactions with other students during class. I think it's sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Yar, 6th, 7th, and 8th grade, im now in 9th grade. TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider AL Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Not every homeschooler is a shut-in...just most.Do the statistics support you in this claim, Redwing, or are you just projecting your own experience onto your world-view? I'm not dissing you, I'm genuinely curious as regards this subject. From what I've been told, homeschooling when done correctly is a fundamentally superior method of education. Yup. Although I only 'officially' skipped one grade, at about 6th grade I tested at maximum state grade reading level, 10th grade math level. On the other hand I never had the chance to develop any social skills.You do realise that there are plenty of kids IN SCHOOL who have absolutely feeble social skills, don't you? They're ostracised, they form cliques of nerds, they become bitter and twisted... they try to set fire to their schools, you name it. Once again it appears to me as if the quality of homeschooling would depend entirely on the school, ie: The home in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBell Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 All the homeschooled kids I know are shut-ins. And in my mind, that's considered most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 The only facts I can give are the facts I have experienced. In my experience with homeschooled kids they are VERY ackward and VERY socially inept. Even the "nerdy" kids in high school who don't really fit in are still more adept at interacting with other kids than the majority of homeschooled kids I know. Again, this is just my personal experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Jedi Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Originally posted by Sam Fisher Hear hear! Yes, I have been homeschooled all my life, and so has all my other brothers and sisters for the past 20 years. We just go to college, mum does everything else. And you guys can't say that all homeschoolers have no social life. It really depends on the way the homeschooling is done that decides that. And just like we homeschooled kids "don't know what we're missing' ( ) you non-homeschooled kids "don't know what you're missing" either. Ya see? It can go both ways. Note: I am not trying to offend anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 I suppose it depends on if you had successful social skills and a decent school to attend on whether or not you'd prefer homeschooling. I can't think of any reason why you would choose to be schooled in a secluded environment away from peers of your own age and interests through what can be the best carefree friend filled years of your life. Seems like you miss out on a LOT, and don't really get that much back in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legameboy Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 I've just been home schooled a little bit. I went to pre-school, then I was home schooled for kindergarden, first grade, and second grade in Mexico. After being home schooled in Mexico, I came back to the States. Unfortunately, the school I went to held me back to second grade. I went through second and third grade, then moved back down to Mexico and went to a private school there (your typical public school in Mexico is horrid) for fourth, fifth, and sixth (for one semester) grade. After that I moved to Denver, Colorado, and went to a public school where they advanced me to seventh grade for that second semester. I went through seventh and eighth grade there at that school, then moved here to Missouri, where I am now the thirteen year old freshman at Harrisonville High School. Soon to come, you will see me in Minnesota as a freshman (second semester). I just love moving, don't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe© Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Originally posted by ET Warrior The only facts I can give are the facts I have experienced. In my experience with homeschooled kids they are VERY ackward and VERY socially inept. Even the "nerdy" kids in high school who don't really fit in are still more adept at interacting with other kids than the majority of homeschooled kids I know. Again, this is just my personal experience. what do you mean by "inept"? does that mean that they are awkward in the sight of public schoolers? I know I feel a little out of place with any one who goes to public school, just because we aren't "cool" to they're standerds, and they met a few wacko shut ins. we are not all like that. I am a home schooler all of my life and I do socialize, I work with public schoolers on a regular basis and don't feel I would do good in that type of school situation, I am not above the grade level like some HS, my parents do not tell me what to think, I find the facts myself. and I see other people my age all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Dravis Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Originally posted by ET Warrior I suppose it depends on if you had successful social skills and a decent school to attend on whether or not you'd prefer homeschooling. I can't think of any reason why you would choose to be schooled in a secluded environment away from peers of your own age and interests through what can be the best carefree friend filled years of your life. Seems like you miss out on a LOT, and don't really get that much back in return. I do love the hours, though. Yay for me! 4 hours or less on school a day, and the rest are up to me! Leaves quite a lot of time for socializing, eh? I don't have the problems you described...must be a statistical fluke or something. >: D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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