spinkle Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Finally got to see this last night and I was thrilled by it. I enjoyed this adaptation far more than any of the Lord of the Rings movies, especially from a casting/acting standpoint. In general, I was impressed by the child actors and the CGI stuff was quite a bit more impressive than it had seemed in the previews. Plus the White Witch is hot in that Grand Moff Tarkin kind of way. I'm interested to see what other people think, and opinions from those who have seen it, plan to see it, or have read the book(s) are more than welcome =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 yeah i like it more than LotR. mainly cause with LotR, i didn't even KNOW anything about it, whereas this is pretty neat and i saw the other adaptions (not the animated tho) and i liked those, but this is really good and lives up to the book. Not that i'm dis'n LotR (im a big fan of that as well) Aslan was awesome, and all the good creatures were badass as well. the evil creatures were gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Terros Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I saw it with my girlfriend at the weekend thought it was ok but seemed to drag on abit and certain parts i dont think were explained to much,like it never really gave a reason why the witch was evil? ok she shouts and turns people to stone but why? . Overall though its a kids films and just felt like Lord of the rings lite but still incredibly fun in places i hope they carry on and make the rest of the books into films, im not too sure about the kids though something about them annoyed me. Anyone else notice how shifty mr tummnus was when he first met lucy? now i dont want to go shout peado but..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Meh. There's my opinion of the entire Narnia series for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Plus the White Witch is hot in that Grand Moff Tarkin kind of way. I, the, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinkle Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 I, the, huh? I see your "I, the, huh?" and raise you two "Heh." C'mon now, you know Peter Cushing is dead sexy. I'm straight but I can admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSion101 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I see your "I, the, huh?" and raise you two "Heh." C'mon now, you know Peter Cushing is dead sexy. I'm straight but I can admit it. Hell yes dead sexy lol.......but hes no Christopher Lee, now that man screams do me now lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastila Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I really liked this film it was great and the White Witch was the best it was as good as the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 If I were straight Id go for Christopher Lee over Peter Cushing anyday. XP Bastila, your icon is giving me eye strain lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 like it never really gave a reason why the witch was evil? ok she shouts and turns people to stone but why? . You have to explain why the bad-guys are evil nowadays? They're evil because they're the bad guys....it's what MAKES them the bad guys. I saw it on sunday, was very pleasantly surprised. While I say those of you calling it better than Lord of the Rings should probably be slapped silly, it is a very good and faithful adaptation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I haven't seen the movie, but I loved the book. It's the only one of the series I've read, unfortunately. I will probably wait until it's released and rent it instead of seeing it in thatres. And I agree with ET Warrior - it is nowhere near as good as LotR. Ok, it's close, but not better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobQel-Droma Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I thought LotR was a bit better- But Narnia was good too, I liked it. Of course, I understand the "I didn't know anything about LotR" (somebody said something like that)- But that is because LotR is a lot more complex story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 @Doc, how do you know if it's better than LotR if you haven't seen it? So to anyone who's read the book recently (it's been a while since I've read it), how close did it follow the story, was anything left out or changed? Sorry to ask, I just don't trust Disney;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurora Merlow Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Its not out until Dec 26th here, but am looking forward to it and glad to hear people have liked it so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 @Doc, how do you know if it's better than LotR if you haven't seen it? So to anyone who's read the book recently (it's been a while since I've read it), how close did it follow the story, was anything left out or changed? Sorry to ask, I just don't trust Disney;) I was talking about the books, actually: LotR is way better, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Obi-Wan Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I haven't seen the movie, but I'd like to see it. But, no way it is better than LotR. Those movies were fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinkle Posted December 15, 2005 Author Share Posted December 15, 2005 So to anyone who's read the book recently (it's been a while since I've read it), how close did it follow the story, was anything left out or changed? I'm about 7 chapters into my reread now. Never thought I'd say this: I like the dialogue in the movie better. It's kind of strange--certain specific details up to this point have been kept, but many things have been altered slightly or removed entirely. The movie definitely moves at better beginning pace. More to follow. As of now my judgement is "well-adapted screenplay" and not "bastardization," but that may change. edit: I'm trying to keep a list of "inaccuracies" that I find and I will be as complete as I can. i will spoiler tag it when i post it, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_H Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I have not seen it also, but I have read the book and have seen an previous adaptation in elementary school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinkle Posted December 15, 2005 Author Share Posted December 15, 2005 okay kids, here it is. just finished my reread, and this list is relatively extensive. i didn't pay too much attention to altered dialogue, as that was totally overhauled in some cases, but i did make some notations where there are crucial (or incredibly specific) alterations. if i missed something, please feel free to add it, but PLEASE use spoiler tags in your additions. I would highly recommend NOT reading this list unless you have already seen the movie and want to see how the book differs. Don't say I didn't warn you! there is no air raid scene in the book, nor is there a description of the children leaving on the train for the professor's house. the children meet the professor as soon as they reach his house, and not in the middle of the night after lucy and edmund return from narnia. lucy goes into the wardrobe for the first time while the children are exploring the house, not during hide and seek. on the way to mr tumnus' house, he mentions the white stag (that grants wishes if caught) that the [then adult] children chase at the end of the movie (and the book) lucy's first visit with mr tumnus is far longer in the book, and his flute playing does not conjure dancing in the fire, nor aslan's face in the fire. Lucy never falls asleep. mr tumnus asks to keep the handkerchief lucy gives him. edmund follows lucy into the wardrobe for the first time while playing hide and seek. the turkish delight is enchanted so as to cause the eater to desire it more; this is not mentioned or implied in the movie. the witch also knows of the entrance to narnia through the wardrobe. all four children go into the wardrobe while hiding from a tourgroup Mrs. Macready is leading through the house, not because they break a window with a cricket ball. additionally, in the book this happens several days after lucy and edmund went in together, and not the following day. susan suggests taking the coats from inside the wardrobe, not peter. the robin leads the children to meet beaver, but beaver does not meet them at mr tumnus'. the children eat dinner with the beavers before discussing Aslan, and beaver speaks a rhyme about aslan and describes him before mentioning the prophecy about the children the white witch is described as the daughter of adam's first wife (lilith, a jinn) and a giant, thus isn't human when edmund leaves to run for the witch's house, the children are dissuaded from following him by beaver, who already knows where he has gone and why. ("he has eaten her food") mr tumnus (or another faun) is already turned to stone in the courtyard when edmund arrives at the witch's house; either way, edmund does not meet mr tumnus at her house edmund immediately tells the white witch about aslan's return and that the children are to meet him at the stone table. the children are not chased from the beavers' house by maugrim and his secret police, and are not helped in the forest by a fox. (see + below) peter is given his christmas gifts first, followed by susan and then lucy. susan and lucy are told that they are not supposed to fight in the battle. father christmas says that "battles are ugly when women fight" when lucy says she thinks she can be brave enough. mr and mrs beaver are also given presents (house repairs for beaver and a new sewing machine for mrs beaver) +the white witch turns a fox, satyrs, and squirrels into stone when she sees them eating a meal given to them by father christmas, and threatens edmund when he asks her not to hurt them spring comes and the witch, the dwarf, and edmund are forced to abandon the sledge and continue on foot. the children do not need to cross the thawing river and peter is not confronted by maugrim on the ice floe aslan's camp is at the stone table (see * below) aslan is attended by two leopards, one bearing his standard and the other bearing his crown, when the children first reach him aslan does not mention the deep magic to peter when he first shows peter cair paravel peter kills maugrim when he trees susan, but he attacks when maugrim howls out of anger (rather than killing maugrim defensively/accidentally as he leaps at peter) aslan sees the second wolf in the thicket immediately after peter kills the first, instead of detaining it before peter fights. when aslan knights peter, he asks peter to hand him his sword and hits peter with the flat of the blade (it is not mentioned if aslan holds the sword in his mouth or paw) the witch and the dwarf allow edmund to be "rescued" and hide themselves in the witch's illusion (the dwarf appears to be a stump and the witch a boulder) the dwarf goes to the aslan's camp and requests the meeting for the witch. he is addressed by aslan as a son of earth when the witch arrives, aslan asks her to speak of the deep magic. the beavers comment about the witch's claim to the throne of narnia, calling her "the emperor's hangman" (explaining why traitors belong to her) aslan stands on his hind legs and meets the witch face-to-face when she arrives in the camp (and it is specifically mentioned that she will not look aslan in the eyes) a bull with a man's head (not peter) threatens the witch when she tries to claim edmund *after the witch renounces her claim on edmund's blood, aslan announces that the camp must be moved as the stone table must be put to another purpose aslan counsels peter on the preparations for war while the camp is being moved, and tells peter he [peter] is thinking as a soldier when peter suggests camping on the opposite side of the river in case of a night attack...then sadly tells peter the witch will not be attacking that night. aslan asks susan and lucy to take hold of his mane while they walk him towards the stone table for his execution susan and lucy do not inform the camp of aslan's death after aslan's ressurection he plays with lucy and susan, jumping over the cracked stone table and having them chase him. when aslan reaches the witch's house with lucy and susan, he leaps the wall. on the way out, he has a giant bash down the gate. after the battle, lucy heals edmund with "a few drops" of cordial (as she is instructed by father christmas when she receives it...not "one drop" as in the movie), and she is chastised by aslan for not hurrying to save more people, asking "must more people die for edmund?" it is mr. beaver, not tumnus, who mentions that aslan comes and goes as he pleases and is not a "tame lion" when he sneaks off during the coronation banquet the titles of the kings and queens (peter the magnificent, etc) are not given during their coronation but instead during their reigns, and do not involve the western wood, eastern sea, southern sky, and northern sun. that's all I could find =) my overall conclusion: well-adapted screenplay. it's a hell of a lot more exciting than the book, imho, and i think it was *very* well done. it is *incredibly* uncommon for me to like a movie adaptation, and even more rare for me to like a movie better than a book...but as was the case with Fight Club, the movie made a better movie and the book made a better book. 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Astrotoy7 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Im looking forward to LW&W.... Im surprised no one has said disney has raped their childhood yet.... mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegis Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 If I were straight Id go for Christopher Lee over Peter Cushing anyday. zOMG (nerd excitement) And to contribute something to the topic; I was able to see it but refused. Looked incredibly stupid. Kids jumping through some magic portal and becoming cool rangers and all was too much for me. Yet I'm surprised by the good comments here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 @Spinkle, Dang boy, how'd you remember all that! Good list, a lot of that stuff didn't sound like it would need to be changed for a good movie though. Still can't wait to see it, I might DF with Kong:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinkle Posted December 16, 2005 Author Share Posted December 16, 2005 @Spinkle, Dang boy, how'd you remember all that! heh, no memory required, i wrote all the crap down as i came to it in the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I see your "I, the, huh?" and raise you two "Heh." C'mon now, you know Peter Cushing is dead sexy. I'm straight but I can admit it. Dead, certainly. The sexy part you can keep for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 @Spinkle, I meant every single scene in the movie:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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