DalamarS@ Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 That is one mighty powerful Rancor. I hope that's just a "feature" of the Demo. The best part is "Target Maximum Firepower" took half the health of the Rancor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Phantom Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Eh...Rancors are powerful. What do you expect? Plus....it's a video game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 lol, wow...that's a little odd. then again, AT-AT's probably don't have anti-flesh bonuses as much as they have anti-armor bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athanasios Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 And not only, it is invalnurable to bombs too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gswift Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I wouldn't mind if that's the way it is in the release version. After all, the Rancor is neutral, just like the ____ tornado. Also, it's not as unrealistic as it first seems. (I know, it's a game based on a movie, so nothing about it is 'real') With that aside, think about how vulnerable the walkers' legs are and if the Rancor can wipe out an AT-ST or T2-B in one blow, then how long would it take to remove a walker leg. A three-legged walker wouldn't last long. One more thing: If the Rancor was weak, it wouldn't be fun or worth wile baiting it into the middle of the enemy base. There's nothing more fun than watching him snack on enemy troops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athanasios Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 ...you may change your opinion about the "neutral" Rancor when you'll see it as the Emperor's puppy, strolling around in your base... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrawn Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Force Corrupt is a wonderful thing:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gswift Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Good point. I didn't think about that one. I hope we can do that, and not just the Rancor, the Wampus is probably cool too. I wonder how many different creatures there are? Will swamp planets have droid-eating serpents for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmaster3265 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 What mod was this where it allowed you to have Veers land battle unit? As far as the rancor destroying him that is very odd. That has never happened to me. Then again i'm not dumb to bring my AT-AT to a rancor. (no offense) My advice is to STAY AWY from rancors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcorn2008 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Well rancors can follow you, ya know. It's not fun. But Jmaster is right, im pretty sure you purposfully moved the at-at to the rancor. At least, im hoping. But thats just anouther element of strategy, looking out for indigenous species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrawn Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 And rocks. Rocks can throw your entire operation into chaos, because well, they're just in the way. I have no idea where I was trying to go with that joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endurell Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I think we need a video of Veers getting pwnt by a rancor.... ...please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyviking03 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 "Yes my lord, I've reached the main power generators. The shield will be down in OH MY GOD! AGGGHHRLLR" "General?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagobahn Eagle Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Rancors are powerful. What do you expect? Given that this is a modern-day SW game, not much. They threw accuracy, realism, and common sense out the window ages ago:(. Plus....it's a video game. I hate worthless cliché "arguments":rolleyes:. Yes, it's a game, but it needs to make sense, too. After all, the Rancor is neutral, just like the ____ tornado. And that's got what to do with how strong it is? Also, it's not as unrealistic as it first seems. I know. It's worse. With that aside, think about how vulnerable the walkers' legs are and if the Rancor can wipe out an AT-ST or T2-B in one blow (...) The AT-AT is blaster-proof, friend. What is more, it appears to be heavy laser-proof, too. It can't just be ripped apart by a three metres tall creature. And the legs aren't more vulnerable than the rest of the thing. I don't see your reasoning for why it should be, at least, seeing they hold the thing up and thus need to be pretty strong, as they're what the enemy will target. Oh, and the Rancor cannot wipe out a T2-B or AT-ST in one blow. In the game, maybe, but in "reality"? Come on, now. Maybe it could punch a hole in that pathetic AT-ST, but come on, use your reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowsfm Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 he means, the at-ats and sts are top heavy and easy to knock over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi3112 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Rancors aren't even large enough to avoid being squased by an AT-AT's heavy feet (At-Ats in the game are too small, but that shouldn't have any impact on their statistics). I even found it annoying that General Veers couldn't step on the guy. I expect the only thing to be able to actually damage an AT-AT would be shipturbolasers (and perhaps a T3-B with both it's rockets and duallasers, but you may still need a few of them, and it's the rebels best tank). Just take a look at the Battle of Hoth, none of the rebel cannons could do any damage to the AT-ATs, only the cables did anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gswift Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 The AT-AT is blaster-proof, friend. What is more, it appears to be heavy laser-proof, too. It can't just be ripped apart by a three metres tall creature. And the legs aren't more vulnerable than the rest of the thing. I don't see your reasoning for why it should be, at least, seeing they hold the thing up and thus need to be pretty strong, as they're what the enemy will target. Oh, and the Rancor cannot wipe out a T2-B or AT-ST in one blow. In the game, maybe, but in "reality"? Come on, now. Maybe it could punch a hole in that pathetic AT-ST, but come on, use your reasoning. I can see some of the points you're making, however the rancor is at least six meters tall, perhaps more. Do we know how stong they are when not in captivity? I've never seen one on National Geographic and I can't find anything in my Encyclopedia. HeHe. Don't get mad, I'm just having fun. Secondly, the legs of a walker are their weakness. You said so yourself "as they're what the enemy will target". Remember the battle with the Ewoks? Just like with the tow cable on Hoth, they tripped AT-ST's with vines and rolling logs. AT-ST's are ray-shielded just like AT-AT's. That doesn't protect them from projectiles or crushing blows. Remember the head of an ST getting crushed by logs? I don't think the AT-AT was intended to be indestructable in the movie. They are just shielded from blasters. After all, they are only transports. To make an analogy with real life engineering: You think something must be strong to hold a heavy load? Find the largest transport plane in the world. The wings hold it up, right? How hard do you think it is to poke a hole in the surface of the wing? How many holes would it take to make it crash? Another analogy: Your legs hold you up. Try pushing sideways on your knee with the weight of your body. Did you hear something pop, crack, or snap? In fact, the heavier the load is on top, the more vulnerable the supports are. Third, how do you know the rancor couldn't take out a light tank? There's no way to guess the actual strength of a rancor or the toughness of the tanks. Are the tanks made to resist lazer blasts, or physical blows? Since they hover, I'm guessing T2B's are constructed lightly. Remember how thick the door was in the rancor cage? Maybe it had to be that thick or the rancor would claw it's way through? Don't the rancor's claws resemble a can-opener? Sure it may not be likely that a rancor would take out an ATAT, but it adds fun to the game. I know, it's just imaginary stuff, but it's fun to theorise and debate. I'm a geek and proud of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empirecitizen Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Can we crush the rebels with the ATATs' legs? The should be able to crush things, even tanks. (not to mention those little infantry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Raven Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I am not so bothered about the amount of damage a rancor can do but the amount of damage they can take, I think surely one shot from an AT AT would kill one but as someone said the target maximum firepower attack only took half of the health off of it. I do however realise that there would be no fun to having it in the game if it was easy to kill but I think at the moment it may be a bit tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowsfm Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 in glactic battleground they where too easy in rotj it wasnt full grown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Extas Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 An AT-AT stands for All Terrain-Assault Transport, so in fact you could concider them equal to the Moldy Crow/Millenium Falcon/Imperial Star Destroyer. Since the AT-TE was pre-form of an AT-AT, the function of the AT-AT must be at least similar, the AT-AT is an invasion walker as well as a transport. A rancor could defenity do as much damadge or more like the Ewoks in the Battle of Endor. Have any of you seen a wampa attack a vehicle before, It would be interesting to see the wampa's power vs. a walker, it might actually be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyviking03 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 If I remember correctly, wasn't there a scene in Courtship, where they get captured, and the imperial patrol that has them is attacked by rancors, and the AT-ST's get whalloped. I know the agruement is about AT-ATs, but I am just saying, some people are forgeting how big those rancors are supposed to be if full grown. Is the one on Tatooine supposed to be full grown? Jabba's was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wswordsmen Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Good point. I didn't think about that one. I hope we can do that, and not just the Rancor, the Wampus is probably cool too. I wonder how many different creatures there are? Will swamp planets have droid-eating serpents for example? Wampa isn't nearly as powerful (attack at least speed might make it more useful) look at the damage in projectiles in B&G2.6 mod. The damage ratio is like 20 to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbas WhOr3 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 As per the http://www.starwars.com databanks say, a fully grown rancor can get to 10m tall while an AT-AT is listed at 15.5M. So there is a possibilty that it could inflict some damage, but I think that the laser cannons on the AT-AT would blow that thing to bits in one hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rok_stoned Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 The AT-AT is blaster-proof, friend. What is more, it appears to be heavy laser-proof, too. It can't just be ripped apart by a three metre tall creature. And the legs aren't more vulnerable than the rest of the thing. I don't see your reasoning for why it should be, at least, seeing they hold the thing up and thus need to be pretty strong, as they're what the enemy will target. Awesome points! Also dont forget were talkin' 'bout futuristic metals and stuff. Plus the larger animals are, the more I find that their strength-size ratio goes down (ants can lift up to 50 times their weight, lemurs are pretty strong, I can lift twice my body weigth without breaking a sweat, I doubt elephants can lift their body weigth and I know for a fact that whales cannot lift theirs). so I doubt a rancor can destroy something made a s dense as metals, particularly ones stronger than steel. Although I must say, rancors are taller than 3 metres tall; although, they still shouldn't be able to kill a walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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