shadowtrooper69 Posted July 15, 2007 Posted July 15, 2007 the title basicly says all, do u want the main character canon darkside for a change? or do u want to stay lightside? id be darkside (darkside rules all )
SilentScope001 Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 No canon. Ever. Canonize LS and the DS folks will scream. Canonize DS and the LS people will scream. Canonize Gray and we'll all scream. We had no canon fate in TSL. So, no need for canon in K3, if it ever comes out.
i_shot_the_jedi Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Didn't we? I heard that the Exile was a light side female... Personally, I really don't mind what Lucas Arts puts the 'canon' as, just as long as there's a good story behind it all; and that I get to make the choices I made in the previous games.
adamqd Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 One of the reason's for canon in the video game was so the character's could crossover into books or films, or be "Marketed", and apart from a one shot comic flashback, a soon to be released toy, and source book material,(a result of the canonization) neither hero has featured anywhere, so IMHO canonizing the PC is not needed, in fact it causes more arguments than anything else.
Corinthian Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Too late, Silent Scope. Canon is already in effect.
Lord Foley Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Really, I think I would rather see the story and play the game before I answered this question.
shadowtrooper69 Posted July 16, 2007 Author Posted July 16, 2007 i wasn't forcing people to post was i?
Darca Lar Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Well what if next to the option, LucasArts puts canon in parenthesis next to the choice they choose as canon, but you still have the choice of not following it.
TKA-001 Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 If they never state the general events of K3 (Dark Side or Light Side, ect), then it will leave an unneeded hole in continuity. I would have preferred that the Exile was male instead of female, but I'm still glad that they actually made a decision. I understand that the game is for the players to play through and the events are for them to shape, but there should still be a specific continuity.
Char Ell Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 One of the reason's for canon in the video game was so the character's could crossover into books or films, or be "Marketed", and apart from a one shot comic flashback, a soon to be released toy, and source book material,(a result of the canonization) neither hero has featured anywhere, so IMHO canonizing the PC is not needed, in fact it causes more arguments than anything else. I also subscribe to this school of thought. Unless LucasArts or other Lucasfilm entities plan on using Revan and the Exile in some sort of media in such a way where gender and alignment will need to be established (e.g. major roles in novels and/or comics) then IMO they shouldn't be "canonized" thus allowing fans of the games to have "their" Revan and Exile to be whatever gender and alignment they want. Unfortunately canonization of these two characters has already occurred so this is pretty much a moot point.
Arátoeldar Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 No game canon but a LS canon for any crossover materials.
Henz Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 I don't care about books or comics so they can cannonise what they like there. I want the game to be made as open as possible as to what you did previously.
Darca Lar Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 If they never state the general events of K3 (Dark Side or Light Side, ect), then it will leave an unneeded hole in continuity. I would have preferred that the Exile was male instead of female, but I'm still glad that they actually made a decision. I understand that the game is for the players to play through and the events are for them to shape, but there should still be a specific continuity. That decision was actually 'fan's choice'. I myself as a fan am sticking with a male exile. So I'm sure that the game, should it EVER be made, might not show the exile or rather his face. That's right, I said "his face", gotta a problem with that anyone?
Corinthian Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 At this point, it's already canon that both Revan and Exile were Lightsiders, male and female respectively. They can handle KotoR 3 like that, or like they did TSL.
Miles Edgeworth Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Sorry couldn't resist, but look at this: "I was just wondering if you've been called upon to enter a canon ending to Knights Of The Old Republic II:The Sith Lords into the holocron." ―from poster Son Of Skywalker15 "No. We've avoided anything concrete about the canon ending. The only reason why we decided on a canon gender for the Revan and the exile was out of editorial necessity." ― Leland Chee
Hipmonlee Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 ^Keep in mind that in The new essential guide to droids, the Exile is refered as "heroine", and plus, Malachor V is destroyed, which denotes Light side ending.
Hawkstrong16 Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Just so long as Revan remains canon lightside and male then I'm happy. (besides Revan sounds like a guys name don't you agree)
Emperor Devon Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Why does it matter to you what LucasArts considers 'canon' or not? Surely what they think the best gender/alignment combination is isn't going to impact how you can play your own game?
Irian Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Personally, I think, the story you are most likely to find (generally spoken, not specifically related to Kotor) is, that something bad happens and then the good guy(s) come and "beat" it. That's the most common story you can find, be it in ancient myths or modern criminal stories. And probably the reason it, that this is the story that most people want to hear. Star Wars is no difference, it's the same story, just told in another way. So I think, if there's a Kotor III, the most probable "main" story is, that something bad gets horribly beaten by a good hero or heroine. Probably there's a DS ending (or even way), but that's just to enhance the fun of playing it again and to convice some people who like the DS to play it, too. But the "real", canon story will very likely be the stame story as always: In the end, the LS wins - because that's what people want to hear. Of course, perhaps the developers suprise us - but I don't think so. My personal experience tells me, that most people prefer to play a good guy - or at least, a grey one. Most of the people I know (online or in real life) prefer it and just play "bad" guys when they finished the first time with a good one. What I hope is, that they don't discriminate one gender, like in Kotor II, where a female Exile never gets Battle Precognition. It's ok to give different things, that makes playing it again more interessting, but it should be roughly equal...
Kas'!m Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 No canon. Ever. Canonize LS and the DS folks will scream. Canonize DS and the LS people will scream. Canonize Gray and we'll all scream. We had no canon fate in TSL. So, no need for canon in K3, if it ever comes out. I argee
Irian Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 I'm surely no canon expert, but the Wookiepedia seems pretty sure, that Exile is female and a "heroine" (according to "The New Essential Guide to Droids"), so it seems pretty canon to me, that Exile was a LS female Jedi. Of course, the quote from Leland Chee sounds otherwise, but then "heroine" was really badly choosen word... Personally, I would like to see a canon ending, even if it differs from my prefered ending. Somehow, I need a "canon" for a universe like Star Wars, esp. because I plan to gm an "Old Republic" campaign in the future *g*
JediMasterJambi Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 I supose that depends upon who the main character in KOTOR3 is. If its a new main character, then I would like to see a Darkside canon, after already having Revan and Exile both turn out Lightside. If its Revan or Exile...then they already have a canon.
Miltiades Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 I also subscribe to this school of thought. Unless LucasArts or other Lucasfilm entities plan on using Revan and the Exile in some sort of media in such a way where gender and alignment will need to be established (e.g. major roles in novels and/or comics) then IMO they shouldn't be "canonized" thus allowing fans of the games to have "their" Revan and Exile to be whatever gender and alignment they want. Unfortunately canonization of these two characters has already occurred so this is pretty much a moot point. Revan's featured in Darth Bane: Path of Destruction in a Holocron. In the novel, Bane learned Revan's history and it's mentioned that Revan eventually defeated Malak and helped the Republic defeat the Sith. For such things, I think, it's useful to have a canon gender and alignment.
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