mimartin Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 Ctrl_Alt_Del said: Psst, it's Nar Shadaa. Not the way I say it. Thanks. Ctrl_Alt_Del said: It's even more odd when we consider the number of ships held at orbit on Onderon, why would they be checking visually ship by ship?I always took it with the blockade they were visual checking each ship before they would allow it to land. So I never really had a problem with the logic of the Hawk being detected. JCarter426 said: And remember that the Hawk was stuck in traffic for a while; I bet Vaklu and his cronies staged the blockade knowing that the Exile was headed for Onderon, tipped off either by his Sith allies or Atris. Were they just looking for the Exile or were they seeking to keep anyone out that might be loyal to the queen?
Melly Posted May 24, 2008 Posted May 24, 2008 JCarter426 said: And remember that the Hawk was stuck in traffic for a while; I bet Vaklu and his cronies staged the blockade knowing that the Exile was headed for Onderon, tipped off either by his Sith allies or Atris. The dock officer that greets you on Onderon and gives you your starport visa says that the military is searching every ship for anything that could be considered treasonous and that the blockade had been going on for over two months which is quite a while before the Exile came back to Republic space. They were especially searching Republic vessels, which is why the beasts are backing up in the streets, because the Ithorians couldn't get through the blockade to pick them up (being Republic ships). And if you go by what the Handmaidens said in one of the cutscenes they (and Atris) lost track of the Ebon Hawk.
Ctrl Alt Del Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 I see all your points, and that likely what has happened. It still looks a bit odd, though. A strike of bad luck for them.
Salzella Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 I do Dantooine first - always something of a chore. Of course, since I always play DS now, that means I have to fight Vrook at approximately level 15 or thereabouts. Mines are, of course, a necessity xD I then do Dxun/Onderon > Nar Shaddaa > Korriban > Back to D/O > Telos > Malachor.
DAWUSS Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 Nar Shaddaa (as Atton, B-4D4, and Telosian passerbys mention it a bunch), Dxun, Dantooine, Korriban
Lord Foley Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 I always do Dantooine, Onderon, Nar Shadaa, Onderon, Korriban. Dantooine is my favorite planet and Vrook is my favorite master, plus Dantooine always feels calm and easy to me. I actually don't like Nar Shadaa that much. Usually I feel kinda bored there. Depends on my mood, though, I guess.
Diego Varen Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 When I first bought the game, I did Dantooine, Korriban, Dxun/Onderon and Nar Shaddaa. On future plays, I then did Dantooine, Dxun/Onderon (or was it Nar Shaddaa first?) and Korriban.
JCarter426 Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 Ctrl_Alt_Del said: I see all your points, and that likely what has happened. It still looks a bit odd, though. A strike of bad luck for them. Hey, the Exile has an army of hunter-killer droids, two Sith Lords and their legion of assassins, one crazy ex-Jedi schutta and her albino handmaidens, a galactic crime syndicate, and a death-worshiping cult after her/him. You think the Exile has any good luck?
Ctrl Alt Del Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 ^ Granted. But that's if you believe on luck. I reckon there's only the Force.
Melly Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 TKA-001 said: I wasn't aware that they worshiped anything. Atton was supposed to have told you that someone else had taken over the GenoHaradan and changed the way they work. So they weren't the same as they were in K1. But, like JCarter426 says, it was cut. I'm actually glad it was, because it sounds kinda stupid to me.
JCarter426 Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 TKA-001 said: I wasn't aware that they worshiped anything. Yeah, I didn't get that feeling from K1 either, but here's a bit of the cut dialogue Melly mentioned: Atton (cut) said: A bunch of death worshippers, assassins, but they'll gladly take credits to further their religion. That's institutions for ya. The GenoHaradan used to be nothing but two-credit hitmen in the times of the Jedi Civil War, but somewhere along the line, something changed. Some say when Revan came back, the two had dealings, and it showed them a new purpose. Another thing to thank Revan for. [...] It stopped being just about credits for them. It was like they had determined it was their mission to help the galaxy die. Zealots.
TKA-001 Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 What doesn't make any sense to me is how Atton even knows that they exist. They're supposed to be a secret society, and Atton, of all people, knows not only of their existence but also their affiliation with Revan? Even the prospect that he knows somebody else who knows that stuff is rather thick if you ask me.
Melly Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 Well, Reveal hidden contents Atton himself was an assassin.
TKA-001 Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 Reveal hidden contents I know that, but he was a Sith assassin.
Melly Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 TKA-001 said: Reveal hidden contents I know that, but he was a Sith assassin. Exactly. You don't think that made him privvy to a little more information than your average Joe? Besides he's probably familiar with darker circles of people who know about the GenoHaradan or at least had heard rumors about them.
Ctrl Alt Del Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 TKA-001 said: Reveal hidden contents I know that, but he was a Sith assassin. Melly said: Exactly. You don't think that made him privvy to a little more information than your average Joe? Besides he's probably familiar with darker circles of people who know about the GenoHaradan or at least had heard rumors about them. Agreed. They are, after all, colleagues on the profession.
Totenkopf Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 JCarter426 said: Hey, the Exile has an army of hunter-killer droids, two Sith Lords and their legion of assassins, one crazy ex-Jedi schutta and her albino handmaidens, a galactic crime syndicate, and a death-worshiping cult after her/him. You think the Exile has any good luck? Well......he's not totally devoid of good luck. He's got a pocketful of his own jedi/sith, a crazy assassin robot progenitor, a twisted manipulative force adept that seems to fly under most people's radars and access to a ragtag group of mandos. Call it even, I guess. Also was thinking that a change of leadership in the GH would have led to some instability and a little knowledge of their existence creeping out into some corners.
Lord Foley Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 JCarter426 said: Hey, the Exile has an army of hunter-killer droids, two Sith Lords and their legion of assassins, one crazy ex-Jedi schutta and her albino handmaidens, a galactic crime syndicate, and a death-worshiping cult after her/him. You think the Exile has any good luck? He or she had the good fortune of being able to defeat all of them and come out of it one of the most powerful Jedi/Sith in the galaxy. Some people deserve to have everyone out to kill them.
JCarter426 Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 Totenkopf said: Well......he's not totally devoid of good luck. He's got a pocketful of his own jedi/sith, a crazy assassin robot progenitor, a twisted manipulative force adept that seems to fly under most people's radars and access to a ragtag group of mandos. Call it even, I guess. Lord Foley said: He or she had the good fortune of being able to defeat all of them and come out of it one of the most powerful Jedi/Sith in the galaxy. Some people deserve to have everyone out to kill them. Yes, I suppose you're both right. Rev7 said: Ctrl_Alt_Del said: Psst, it's Nar Shadaa Really? And you're both wrong. Nar Shaddaa--three As, two Ds.
Ctrl Alt Del Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 JCarter426 said: three As, two Ds. let's settle this, I thought it was two "A" and two "D" Nar Shaddaa
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