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...Doubtful, from what I've seen so far.

 

waitasec....have you actually seen CW or not??

 

an informed critique is one thing, but waxin endless about things youve gotten from trailers and the internets is plain silly.

 

However, that being said, your compadre, Prime, is the king of criticising Star Wars related storylines he is not fully informed about! :p

 

>>see Primeski, we didnt have to wait too long to get that going again! lolz

 

c) The general impression I had from most sources was Anakin was Obi-Wan's Padawan untill 2/3's of the way through the Clone Wars.

d) She's not mentioned in any of the films.

 

c) General Impressions is *not* in the movie, though General Grievous is mentioned but not seen :p Im not sure of its fractional equivalent in the scope of the CW, but Anakin ceased being a Padawan in S2 of the original CW Animated Series. A screenshot can be organised if you like.

d) yeah, she's not. Yoda makes a point of saying that

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He fears Anakin will have a problem letting go of his new padawan. Which may explain why there is no mention of her later...

e) George can add anything he wants, anytime he wants. Him coughing into a mic during voice recording for Grievous in EpIII required animators etc to incorporate the coughing into the film, and the original animated series to explain why Grievous coughs. GL said he wanted the cough in, so in it stayed :D It can be annoying, but is there a thing you could do about it? Nope. so why get annoyed in the first place? ;) I personally think its cool. It shows GL doesn't take the whole thing *too* seriously, which is a trait lost on some fanboys.

 

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She's not mentioned in any of the films.
Neither is Revan, therefore Revan should not exist in the Star Wars Universe?

I'm protesting her pointlessness in regards to the story, which is pointless enough on its own.
What story is that? The Saga as a whole or Anakin’s story? Unless you have read the entire scripts for not only this movie, but the entire television series I see no reason for you to make this assumption. It is merely your guess, you may be right, but in that case it was a lucky guess and not an educated one.
oooh! I saw it :) I really enjoyed it :D
Okay, change my vote, I'm now semi-excited to see it.

 

Not excited enough to move up the time, but now really looking forward to Sunday.

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c) General Impressions is *not* in the movie, though General Grievous is mentioned but not seen :p Im not sure of its fractional equivalent in the scope of the CW, but Anakin ceased being a Padawan in S2 of the original CW Animated Series. A screenshot can be organised if you like.

 

Have you even seen RotS? I assure you Grievous is seen. And the him becoming a Knight 2/3 through the Clone Wars, was a reference to the Animated Series. Besides, since when are you involved in me giving a direct answer to Prime about why I specifically don't like Anakin having a padawan.

 

d) yeah, she's not. Yoda makes a point of saying that

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He fears Anakin will have a problem letting go of his new padawan. Which may explain why there is no mention of her later...

 

:| Great laughs.

 

e) George can add anything he wants, anytime he wants. Him coughing into a mic during voice recording for Grievous in EpIII required animators etc to incorporate the coughing into the film, and the original animated series to explain why Grievous coughs. GL said he wanted the cough in, so in it stayed :D It can be annoying, but is there a thing you could do about it? Nope. so why get annoyed in the first place? ;) I personally think its cool. It shows GL doesn't take the whole thing *too* seriously, which is a trait lost on some fanboys.

 

Great. You know, if you had ~snip~ read, you would know that I would be going to see this despite my mis-givings about Anakin having a Padawan. GL made a mess of the prequels, its foolish to try thinking otherwise - they aren't bad films, but defiantly aren't what they should be.

 

~snip~

 

She's not mentioned in any of the films.

Neither is Revan, therefore Revan should not exist in the Star Wars Universe?

 

There's a big difference :xp: For a start Revan is 4,000 years before the saga, so why on earth would he be explicitly mentioned in any of the 6 films - where as Anakin having a padawan I do think important enough to be mentioned.

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There's a big difference :xp: For a start Revan is 4,000 years before the saga, so why on earth would he be explicitly mentioned in any of the 6 films - where as Anakin having a padawan I do think important enough to be mentioned.

 

By the same token, there are plenty of important things in the prequels that, given the context of the story, deserved to be mentioned in episodes 4-6, but weren't due to them being made later.

 

This is just the same.

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By the same token, there are plenty of important things in the prequels that, given the context of the story, deserved to be mentioned in episodes 4-6, but weren't due to them being made later.

 

This is just the same.

 

Personally I think thats due to not enough continuity being thought out for the prequels more than anything else...

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Personally I think thats due to not enough continuity being thought out for the prequels more than anything else...

 

That barely qualifies though, considering GL had always planned for a large number of movies, and had been writing on and off for each of them since about 1972.

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where as Anakin having a padawan I do think important enough to be mentioned.
There is no reason to mention her in EP1 or EP2, because she was not introduced. I see no reason for her to come up in conversation in EP 4 or EP 5, because Luke does not even know his father is Vader until the end of EP5. In EP 6, the one that could carry on a conversation with Luke about Anakin’s padawan is on his deathbed during their conversation and has other more relevant information to pass on with his dying words. So that leaves us with EP3, the only place I would find a discussion about Anakin’s former padawan appropriate would be in the scene between Anakin and Yoda. Even then going to the Elder Master with concerns about loss and then talking about another loss that Anakin could not accept would only prove Yoda’s point.

 

I guess Anakin could have ignited his lightsaber in front of the younglings before saying, “I once had a padawan not much older than all of you. Now you are all about to be as dead as my padawan Ahsoka Tano.”

 

Or

 

During the battle between Obi-Wan and Anakin:

Obi-Wan - “It over Anakin, I have the high ground… You don’t want to die like your former Padawan Ahsoka Tano.”

Anakin – “Don’t talk about her. You underestimate my power!”

 

Like I wrote, I don’t see a lot of places within the movie where a discussion about a former padawan makes logical sense or is needed to push the story along. To me the apprentice in Force Unleashed would have been more logical to hear about in EP4 when Obi-Wan was talking about Vader hunting down the Jedi than about Ahsoka.

 

Guess we can always wait for the next special edition. :(

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I personally think its cool. It shows GL doesn't take the whole thing *too* seriously, which is a trait lost on some fanboys.

Couldn't agree more...some people in this thread need some serious dosage of chill pills...

 

GL is utilizing almost every form of media out there to bring out new material this year (and next, if the Live action series stays on schedule), and yet the people moan and moan..."zomg TFU not on PC", "zomg CW is sooo childish", etc...

 

I'm glad GL has this attitude about things, at least he's trying new things to try and entertain us and a new generation of SW fans too.

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Why are you sad about special editions? I love special additions - it's a shame though Lucas couldn't do a Lord of the Rings style special edition ;)
Nothing against “Special Editions,” it is just I’ve already purchase my fair share of the movies, especially the original trilogy.

 

1. Parents purchased me the original storybook record for Star Wars before long before it became “A New Hope.”

2. Purchased the Trilogy on VHS.

3. Purchased the Trilogy on Laser Disc.

4. Purchased the Trilogy “Special Edition” on Laser Disc.

5. Purchased “The Phantom Menace” on VHS.

6. Purchased “The Phantom Menace” on DVD. (4 times, 1 for me and 3 cousins/friends)

7. Purchased the Trilogy Special Edition on DVD. (4 times)

8. Purchased “Attack of the Clones” on DVD (4 times)

9. Purchased “Revenge of the Sith” on DVD (4 times)

10. Purchased “Clone Wars Volume One” on DVD (4 times)

11. Purchased “Clone Wars Volume Two” on DVD (4 times)

 

Wouldn't mind a new Special Editions if it comes to Blu-ray as I already know I will purchase it on Blu-ray when it comes out, but what will happen is they will release it on DVD and then a year later on Blu-ray.

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~snip~

 

GL is utilizing almost every form of media out there to bring out new material this year (and next, if the Live action series stays on schedule), and yet the people moan and moan..."zomg TFU not on PC", "zomg CW is sooo childish", etc...

 

For me personally - I will watch the film at the cinema, I won't comment on the story until afterwards, I don't think I'll ever like this Anakin Padawan idea, I enjoyed the cartoons and am very disappointed TFU is not on PC.

 

I'm glad GL has this attitude about things, at least he's trying new things to try and entertain us and a new generation of SW fans too.

 

Indeed, ever heard the expression less is more - some of the mystique of certain characters is ruined by revealing too much about them? Its not so much this EU that annoys me, but a lot of the EU turns certain characters into 'Gods'. My 2 cents...

 

Nothing against “Special Editions,” it is just I’ve already purchase my fair share of the movies, especially the original trilogy.

 

Aye, fair enough - the only reason I want more special additions is for added content LotR style (doubt that will happen though).

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"Just" a criminal organization? Black Sun was stronger than the Hutts, and they were the same type of organization, anyway.
How are they the same type of organization?

 

I'd like a source for that presumption.
Not so much a single source, but a conclusion based on multiple sources. I can go through the thought process if it interests you enough.

 

Also, I appear to have said a lot more than I remember saying.
Not sure what you mean by this. :confused:

 

b) Really given Anakin's maturity why would you give him his own Padawan?
According to EU sources, later in the war many Jedi masters have been killed and padawans "orphaned". Many knights were given padawans long before they would have otherwise. Another reason might be because the Council thought having a padawan that was somewhat similar to him might help him mature. Regardless, I think there are several reasonable reasons why it might happen.

 

d) She's not mentioned in any of the films.
Did you feel the same about Qui-Gon when TPM came out?

 

However, that being said, your compadre, Prime, is the king of criticising Star Wars related storylines he is not fully informed about!
The Vong still suck!

 

I think some moderators could do with (not you NS) not writing inflammatory moronic posts.
Which posts of mine are inflammatory? :confused:
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~snip~

 

~snip~

 

Some avid fans(collq. fanboys) take the films too seriously, worry and complain far too much. It is unfortunate because they may never be 100% satisfied with anything poor GL does after TESB.

 

I can't see how that I insulting. Anyone? :confused:

 

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ouchies! nothing veiled about that is there :p<-- quoted post snipped now - Cz

 

ah, now I remember who you are J7. (recalls E2008 thread)

 

From your above quote though, I suggest some temperance on your part too. There is nothing to be gained by being, or becoming irritable. <-- taken care of - Cz

 

If you haven't seen the film yet, why bemoan it so. Don't see it, if it is apparent that bits of it will make you upset! :)

 

Anakin is given a Padawan. No big deal.

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It is made apparent that this was Obi-Wans idea, to give Anakin a sense of responsibility, which he obviously lacks. It is also very apparent that Anakin's new Padawan is very suited to him. It will be great to get more backstory on her in the series....

 

Re- Black Sun. It is one of the EU references I mention.

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Jabba's uncle, Ziro is a black sun Vigo, and has the Black Sun logo tatooed across his front reference

 

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Everyone:

 

Please don't be dissuaded, go see the film, have fun, popcorn etc :)

 

Peace Be Unto You All :p

 

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According to EU sources, later in the war many Jedi masters have been killed and padawans "orphaned". Many knights were given padawans long before they would have otherwise. Another reason might be because the Council thought having a padawan that was somewhat similar to him might help him mature. Regardless, I think there are several reasonable reasons why it might happen.

 

I don't disagree with the reasoning, my gripe was she's never been mentioned before; and this now just seems as a means of making money.

 

Did you feel the same about Qui-Gon when TPM came out?

 

Yes and no; I like Qui-Gon's character - however - given what is said in the OT Yoda should have been Obi-Wan's Master.

 

Which posts of mine are inflammatory? :confused:

 

None, I don't think you have an inflammatory bone in your body :)

 

The Vong still suck!

 

QFT

 

It was so veiled even I dont know what you are talking about! :lol:

 

Some avid fans(collq. fanboys) take the films too seriously, worry and complain far too much. It is unfortunate because they may never be 100% satisfied with anything poor GL does after TESB.

 

So basically any legitimate questions of anything GL does is fanboyism, and if I were to quote the reviews as being bad, I shouldn't comment on them either?

 

I can't see how that I insulting. Anyone? :confused:

 

Re-read your posts.

 

ouchies! nothing veiled about that is there :p

 

I don't do veiled, I just say what I think.

 

ah, now I remember who you are J7. (recalls E2008 thread) Ive read your blog J7 and I understand why you are thus. I'm sorry.

 

I'm not in a mood or narky.

 

From your above quote though, I suggest some temperance on your part too. There is nothing to be gained by being, or becoming irritable.

 

May I suggest that if temperance is going to be suggested of me - then you should get another mod to suggest it? <-- working on it! :xp: - Cz

 

 

If you haven't seen the film yet, why bemoan it so. Don't see it, if it is apparent that bits of it will make you upset! :)

 

See, I have this doubt that you actually read peoples posts - because half your responses indicate either you have missed key words out - or have just ignored the general point of a post. I will watch the Clone Wars - I hardly see how me commenting that I don't like the idea of Anakin having a Padawan, as anything more than that.

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well then apparently most people hate it but im still gonna go see it cuz its SW and if it sucks ill probably be sayin the same thing but oh well wat can ya do

 

I applaud you for wanting to check it out before you deliver your verdict! :) I think you wont mind it though, there's a heck of alot of Clonetrooper kickassery.

 

Have fun ;)

 

as for reviews you may see in the paper etc... I will give you a good example. One 'critic' here gave it 1.5/5 and then on the same page gave 'Mamma Mia' 5/5. It's not that Mamma Mia is bad or good etc, its just that reviews are *very* subjective things. I'd venture to say that if you have no interest in the SW universe, then you probably shouldnt have watched it :p

 

Best go see it yourself and make your own mind up.

 

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C'mon guys, some of these posts ARE getting inflammatory and down-right personal. Let's cut it out before I have to start putting people in corners :(

 

Astro - Buddy, pal, c'mon you have a tongue that can slice like a scalpel. Some comments can come off a wee-bit personal ;)

 

J7 - Bro, name calling doesn't help matters.. 1-2- breathe man, it's all gravy baby :D

 

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C'mon peeps.. give Cz a break. I've snipped several posts.. probably missed a few (just report them) but I've read the thread 5 times over now and I'm sick of looking at it :xp:

 

Discussion = good / Personal Attack - Flaming = bad ;)

 

Have fun ;)

 

as for reviews you may see in the paper etc... I will give you a good example. One 'critic' here gave it 1.5/5 and then on the same page gave 'Mamma Mia' 5/5. It's not that Mamma Mia is bad or good etc, its just that reviews are *very* subjective things. I'd venture to say that if you have no interest in the SW universe, then you probably shouldnt have watched it :p

 

Best go see it yourself and make your own mind up.

 

mtfbwya

Good advice. Better than anything I can suggest for this thread without repeating it :lol:

 

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