Corinthian Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 But, naturally, in the movie, he sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-false Jedi Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Its so difficult question to answer becuase the movie's vision for Grevious is worlds apart from his EU portrayal. In the Clone Wars cartoon (at least) he was devastating and clsoe to unstopable, but its more than a case of just exagerated stylizing that everyone had in the cartoon, he was intended to be a monsterous force that was relentless and powerful. In the movie he was just an imposing but cowardly cybernetic general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusIsGonnaOwnSatan Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 i say grevious. i havnt read teh posts... yet. coz its 1:10 am and im slepy. hense mye misssplings. *falls asleep* *snaps awake* i say grevious. i havnt red he posts... yet. coz its 1:10am and imm slepyy. hense mi msplings. *falls alseep*.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teodesetkata Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 C-3PO owns them both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 C-3PO owns them both! how do you propose that would happen? Do you think that 3P0 would just anoy both of them to death? I still think that HK-47 would own Grevious. Grevious just doesn't seem like the tactition that HK-47 is. Not too mention that revan would have given his personal droid some of his own tactics and strategies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusIsGonnaOwnSatan Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 how do you propose that would happen? Do you think that 3P0 would just anoy both of them to death? I still think that HK-47 would own Grevious. Grevious just doesn't seem like the tactition that HK-47 is. Not too mention that revan would have given his personal droid some of his own tactics and strategies. HK is the man, but have you seen grievous' abilities? like in the clone wars animated series? i like hk way better, but going by what i know, grievous wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teodesetkata Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Yeah C-3PO's best weapon is his annoyance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Alt Del Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I agree with TKA. Face to face, Grievous would probably win. I don't doubt HK's cunning, but I'm not sure about his speed and dextery. Clearly, Grievous has more human-like movements, therefore being more agile. Knowing HK modus operandi though, he'd probably disguise as one of GG doids aides and wait for the best moment to strike at Grievous. Then he would win. Rakata, he's DONE that. Actually, according to him, he's shot people through the knees from 120 kilometers away. With an Aratech Sniper Rifle. With a trilights cope. I was under impression he used that as a metaphor to describe his point of view on 'love'. He never says he done that, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 HK. Grievous couldn't even kill pansy Jedi from the film era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusIsGonnaOwnSatan Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 HK. Grievous couldn't even kill pansy Jedi from the film era. actually he did... clicky here or here for the whole thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Rider Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 actually he did... clicky here or here for the whole thing Which is what cheeses me off about the new Clone Wars series. Grievous has the strategy of a swamp rat and seems about as skilled a fighter as Luke in his frst lightsaber training session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwannaSauna Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 General Grievous stabs HK-47 but HK self-destructs*, destroying them both *Anyone who wants to tell me "but how?" just remember the HK-50 droid that tried to kill you on the Peragus Mining Facility... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusIsGonnaOwnSatan Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Which is what cheeses me off about the new Clone Wars series. Grievous has the strategy of a swamp rat and seems about as skilled a fighter as Luke in his frst lightsaber training session. yeah, but its canon. i suppose its possible because of greivous' literally electric fast reflexes. and all that droid enhancementness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Vader Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Ok. HK is an assassin droid, not a battle droid. Do you realize that every theory that he gives to us are assassin methods? Assassins are weak in open combat. GG will rush in and stab HK's processor. End of the story. Case closed. No need for thermal detonators. GG is able to fight 5 Jedi at once. Can HK do that? No. HK can give a Jedi a trouble using a blaster. Can GG do that? Yes, he does that against Kenobi. GG can survive a crush from Mace Windu. Can HK do that? No. HK can kill Jedi with gas bomb. Can GG do that? GG can jump high and stab the Jedi on the head. GG can mock Jedi and make them cowards. Can HK do that? No. GG suceed in kidnapping Palpatine. Can HK do that ?No way.GG can dodge many things, including missiles. Can HK do that? Hell no. GG outclasses HK in every way. For you to know, I'm not a GG fanboy. And game mechanics are non-canon. Check forums such as killermovies to find out about things like this. I think we need a forum for versus fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwannaSauna Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 And game mechanics are non-canon Yeah, but how can you say that when all of HK's appearances are in games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Vader Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I mean game mechanics like how many Jedi Revan killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Betrayer Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 GG can mock Jedi and make them cowards. Can HK do that? No. GG suceed in kidnapping Palpatine. Can HK do that ?No WRONG! HK-47 like Atton and Revan's other trained assassins are very good at intimidation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Vader Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Which is what cheeses me off about the new Clone Wars series. Grievous has the strategy of a swamp rat and seems about as skilled a fighter as Luke in his frst lightsaber training session. I've been noticing that too. All he's using is brute force, and the only thing smart about him is that he can notice when he's lost and can escape. HK-47 would never let it come face to face. I think he'd booby trap Grievous' fighter, then wait and escape another way. Proof? Have you played K1? "Statement: Gaurds give up, meat bag! Assassin droids hunt down your entire family tree!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 *Anyone who wants to tell me "but how?" just remember the HK-50 droid that tried to kill you on the Peragus Mining Facility... That was an HK-50, not an HK-47. Grievous has the strategy of a swamp rat Can anyone cite an example or two of Grievous' supposedly brilliant strategic/tactical capabilities? Because as far as I know, there are no specific examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Rider Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Can anyone cite an example or two of Grievous' supposedly brilliant strategic/tactical capabilities? Because as far as I know, there are no specific examples. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grievous read, learn. Yeah okay details are lacking because unlike real life you can't find every last detail of a battle. Still, Grievous is shown to be the driving force behind the Separatists victories, at the rate Grievous loses battles in the new series, the Clone Wars would be over in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grievous read, learn. Yeah okay details are lacking because unlike real life you can't find every last detail of a battle. Still, Grievous is shown to be the driving force behind the Separatists victories I'm not asking for every last detail of a battle; I'm instead asking for at least one detail of any battle. And no, he is not shown to be their driving force; he is said to be the driving force, with no actual details given, and with no details, no effective evidence. People make the same assumptions about Revan, I've noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Rider Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I'm not asking for every last detail of a battle; I'm instead asking for at least one detail of any battle. And no, he is not shown to be their driving force; he is said to be the driving force, with no actual details given, and with no details, no effective evidence. People make the same assumptions about Revan, I've noticed. it's a STORY, where people come up with fantastic things to TELL you, saying that being TOLD he was a great general and strategic mastermind isn't enough is like saying the there's no proof for the Extended Universe 'cause msot if it is in written in novels, not shown in movies or comics or toons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 it's a STORY, where people come up with fantastic things to TELL you, saying that being TOLD he was a great general and strategic mastermind isn't enough is like saying the there's no proof for the Extended Universe 'cause msot if it is in written in novels, not shown in movies or comics or toons. No, it isn't like that. You're talking like there's never been opportunities to demonstrate Grievous' skills, which is false. Of course saying he was good isn't enough. Lots of other characters have had their skills and traits demonstrated, like Palpatine's ability to manipulate others, Thrawn's insight into species via their art, Darth Malak's ruthlessness, Exar Kun's arrogance, Jerec's lust for power, Carth Onasi's stupidity, Joruus C'boath's insanity, and so on. Grievous' supposed tactical/strategic ability has certainly been alluded to, but not actually demonstrated, and that's why one should not automatically assume that he is a genius in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Monance Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 So do we assume the opposite, remain entirely neutral or lean towards thinking that what is told about him is true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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