Darth Nihilus

[decalibron]

hi all, i just joined lucasforums, and although most of u guys probably know this, there was just something interesting i picked up and wanted to point out: the name given to Darth Nihilus isn't random at all, or even Star Wars related! It's from the word annhilation, which as y'all know means total and utter destruction (katarr ring a bell?) so really, there was meaning behind Nihilus, not just a name that i can never figure out how to say. So call me lame, but i thought that was very interesting. A lot more thought went into the character's name than i previously thought.

-decalibron

[Rtas Vadum]

Pretty much what most know, even though some might think him a "cool" character by looks alone. Though there is also the Nihilistic connection, likely referring to the fact that his continual lust, or hunger for power, has no purpose, or no meaning. Along with his own life, when considering that he lost something the Exile didn't: his sense of self. Unlike Traya and Sion, he didn't leave a body behind, in any form. Only a mask.

[Lord of Hunger]

A lot of us picked up on it after a few years here, but it is definitely a nice fact worth discussing (I know I've certainly talked about it a lot since Nihilus is my profile's namesake). Though I think that this isn't quite the right forum.

[Sabretooth]

Though there is also the Nihilistic connection, likely referring to the fact that his continual lust, or hunger for power, has no purpose, or no meaning.

 

Nihilus is pretty much the Nietzsche to Kreia's Ayn Rand.

[Darth Avlectus]

"Rawgh Rawgh-Rawgh. Rawrawh-rahg Rawgh."

 

Just wish they had made it a one on one fight--he's much harder when you're by yourself. Then again that was the spawn of the warpband mod. I'm not entirely convinced those NPCs arent designed to just flat kill your character.

[Drunkside]

I actually hadnt figured out the "annihilation"-connection, I was just like "oh, a guy whose name comes from the word nihilism, very original" and that was it. I never liked the character enough to start thinking about the name.

 

And if someone hasnt figured out,

Vader=Invader

Sidious=Insidious(this should be pretty clear for any of us users here )

 

My point is, all the sith lords have names that are poorly "camouflaged" words depicting them, so there is nothing extragavant about Nihilus.

[Sabretooth]

Let's see you work with Malak then.

[igyman]

Vader=Invader

 

Actually "vader" is the Dutch word for "father", though your interpretation is also a possibility.

[Ctrl Alt Del]

Let's see you work with Malak then.

 

Lawl, he's just an angel or fallen angel of sorts, isn't he?

[Drunkside]

Let's see you work with Malak then.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malak

 

@igyman I knew that vader also means father, and i did consider it ("I am your father" and all...) but figured that the word invader would make more sense story-wise.

[Darth InSidious]

Let's see you work with Malak then.

The Yezidi "Peacock Angel", Melek Taus is one possibility. Melek Taus is often identified by Christians and Muslims with Satan.

 

The Mal'akhim are the messengers of God in the Tanakh/Old Testament. As has been said, Satan in the Christian tradition at least is often identified as a fallen angel.

 

One could also connect the name Malak with the Latin "mala" which means "jaw", but onl in the sense that Malak doesn't have one, in which case he might as well be Darth Restraint.

 

According to Leland Chee it derives from "malice", but that's just ridiculous.

 

Besides, a better question is why

his old name was Alek Sfiftierth in Latin. (And yes, the misspelling of "fiftieth" does reflect the acutal misspelling used. If you prefer, his name could also be rendered Alek Sash Wednersday. )

 

[Darth Avlectus]

^^^

 

I think we can guess at who wrote the wookieepedia article on Darth Malak. O_O

[Seikan]

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Originally Posted by Sabretooth View Post

Let's see you work with Malak then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malak

 

Then there wouldn't be any interesting sense with his name, and Malice... yeah... cool... jaw? cool... malak just have a name without any interest.

 

But I see your point about every sith having some meaningful name.

 

It's from the word annhilation, which as y'all know means total and utter destruction (katarr ring a bell?) so really, there was meaning behind Nihilus

 

Actually you are wrong, Nihilus come rather from Nihilism, or Nihil.

 

Nihil meaning "nothing" in Latin, so it also make sense.

 

And Nihilism is a philosophic point of view, that the life, the world, is meaningless, that there is not any goal in the life, there is "nothing".

 

So Nihilis is "nothing" or rather I would say he bring "nothing" by destroying every thing that exist. He is like a black hole that eats everything he reaches.

[Boba Rhett]

Hmmm, I don't think it has anything to do with annihilation. He's Darth Nihilus because he's nihilistic, as others have stated.

[Drunkside]

Then there wouldn't be any interesting sense with his name, and Malice... yeah... cool... jaw? cool... malak just have a name without any interest.

 

But I see your point about every sith having some meaningful name.

 

 

 

I mean that he is a fallen angel... Like he pretty much is

[decalibron]

So, what about Revan then? any connection there? if the lucas arts people are philosophical as we are, then it may have something to do with redemption, or something along those lines. And yes, I knew most of you would've drawn the connection between Nihilus and Annhilation, but it was an interesting point for me, since im relatively new to lucasforums and the kotor series.

 

Edit:

hmm, i did find one about revenant, meaning one who returns after death, or a long absence. It works, but it's not all that great. Anyone have a better one?

[Q]

He always sounded like a cheap Wurlitzer in its death throes.

[decalibron]

hehe. I've always been a fan of revan, but he lost points in my book because of the apparent lack of thought in the choice of his name.

 

Edit:

MERRY CHRISTMAS Y'ALL!!!

 

Edit 2

Hmmm, I don't think it has anything to do with annihilation. He's Darth Nihilus because he's nihilistic, as others have stated.

 

I think it could be either. THe end result of his power would be the annhilation of the jedi, the force, and all life.

 

 

Actually, I won't ban you for double-posting decalibron, like Sabretooth says below, but I will tell you to please read the rules (click here) and avoid double posting in the future. Thanks. --Jae

[Sabretooth]

Let me try my best impression of Jae now...

 

Hello decalibron. I see you are new to the forums. Please use the "Edit Post" feature that you will find the lower-right corner of your post. Please do not double-post. Please do not triple-post.

 

Otherwise, I will ban you for life.

 

[Jae Onasi]

Let me try my best impression of Jae now...

 

Hello decalibron. I see you are new to the forums. Please use the "Edit Post" feature that you will find the lower-right corner of your post. Please do not double-post. Please do not triple-post.

 

Otherwise, I will ban you for life.

 

 

 

At least you put a 'please' in there, you sassy Sabretooth! Besides, it's the pornbots I ban for life, anyway.