Remi Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I haven't had a lot of time to look at this, but going through the "EndStingers" resource files, there was only one that looks unfamiliar to me. It involves Guybrush crumpling up a document. The KTXBZ file looks like so... Odds are that I'm spacing on something or simply that others got this ending while I didn't. Or? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPeel2001 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I wonder if Guybrush is crumpling up Ron and Dave's note? 🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staple Remover Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, ThunderPeel2001 said: I wonder if Guybrush is crumpling up Ron and Dave's note? 🤪 I think it’s this, Ron mentioned that the note was going to be in the chest in lieu of the current item. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remi Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 For future reference, the EndStingers listing: 1: Docs 2: Voodoo 3: Lava key 4: Kids 5: LeChuck sword fight 6: Friends 7: Sailing with Elaine 8: Treasure 9: Bury chest 10: Tickets 11: Banana (+ Drown) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPeel2001 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Isn't there only 10 + drown? That's what Ron said and what's listed in the Mojo guide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remi Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, ThunderPeel2001 said: Isn't there only 10 + drown? That's what Ron said and what's listed in the Mojo guide? Could be a cut ending -- like I said, this is an end stinger, marked as #1, Docs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe monsters Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Could anything be linked to the pamphlet? I still don't know if it's possible to fill the last entry, about "committing murder". Dave Grossman said on Twitter that good actions are time-limited, like saving Wally for example, but bad actions aren't. I don't know if that means something. Ron Gilbert could also been talking about a side-ending, like Guybrush drowning, something we can only do somewhere specific in the game. These images are fascinating, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demone Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Joe monsters said: Could anything be linked to the pamphlet? I still don't know if it's possible to fill the last entry, about "committing murder". Dave Grossman said on Twitter that good actions are time-limited, like saving Wally for example, but bad actions aren't. I don't know if that means something. Ron Gilbert could also been talking about a side-ending, like Guybrush drowning, something we can only do somewhere specific in the game. These images are fascinating, though! Ron actually confirmed on Twitter it's not possible to complete the "murder those who get in your way" one in the pamphlet. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPeel2001 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Joe monsters said: Dave Grossman said on Twitter that good actions are time-limited, like saving Wally for example, but bad actions aren't. I don't know if that means something. How is saving Wally "time limited" though? 23 minutes ago, Joe monsters said: Ron Gilbert could also been talking about a side-ending, like Guybrush drowning, something we can only do somewhere specific in the game. I think this is what it's likely to be. I wonder if that "Docs" stinger was indeed related to finding the note in the treasure chest, though. Is there a related anim file? If so it should be easy to trigger it by renaming the file and then triggering the renamed ending. Edited October 10, 2022 by ThunderPeel2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demone Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, ThunderPeel2001 said: How is saving Wally "time limited" though? The shackles on LeChuck's ship are only available to be observed for the serial number in parts 2 and 3. Afterwards, they are taken from the ship to use to hold Wally captive. If players do not get the serial number before the end of part 3, or don't get the key before part 5, they can't rescue Wally at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didero Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ThunderPeel2001 said: Is there a related anim file? If so it should be easy to trigger it by renaming the file and then triggering the renamed ending. There is, 'EndStingers1_Docs.anim', inside Weird.ggpack1a. Edited October 10, 2022 by Didero Added quote box 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe monsters Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, demone said: Ron actually confirmed on Twitter it's not possible to complete the "murder those who get in your way" one in the pamphlet. Oh, I didn't see that. My bad, then. I guess it does mean than, even though Guybrush can be terrible, he would never commit murder. I like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPeel2001 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Remi said: I haven't had a lot of time to look at this, but going through the "EndStingers" resource files, there was only one that looks unfamiliar to me. It involves Guybrush crumpling up a document. The KTXBZ file looks like so... Do you remember what GGPack that image was in? Edit: Nevermind, it was 5a 👍 Edited October 10, 2022 by ThunderPeel2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radogol Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Staple Remover said: I think it’s this, Ron mentioned that the note was going to be in the chest in lieu of the current item. Oohhh, that’s pretty clever 😮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquesSparkyTail Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 hours ago, demone said: Ron actually confirmed on Twitter it's not possible to complete the "murder those who get in your way" one in the pamphlet. I wonder if it was at one point though. That squid positioned itself as your enemy only to die when you weren’t looking. Maybe originally guybrush killed the squid, which checked off the pamphlet, which unlocked the new ending, which killed the cat that ate the rat that lived in the house that jack built. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPeel2001 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) This is what the "Docs" end sting looks like: If you want to see it for yourself, plop this file next to the other "Weird.ggpack" files in your game directory, and then run Guybrush back up the stairs before getting the key: http://www.thunderpeel2001.com/Weird.ggpack6 It is literally just this image, however. I don't know if there's more to be found in order to trigger it to do anything else. Edited October 11, 2022 by ThunderPeel2001 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllidanS4 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 There is also one related sketch of the ending: 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinkie Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 That very much looks like the Ron/Dave note in a box ending to me after seeing those images 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPeel2001 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) I guess the "original" secret was always going to be the plaque... but they had a second surprise for the player if they kept playing: The note. But they felt that was too 4th wall breaking even for MI, so they switched it for a joke secret... it literally being a t-shirt. However I wonder if Guybrush originally tore up the note or something? And the post-credits scene is him piecing it back together again? It's intriguing. Edited October 13, 2022 by ThunderPeel2001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPeel2001 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Anyone managed to glean anymore about this "Docs" ending? There's limited tools on macOS to explore the files, and I'm also limited on time. Feels like there's more to be mined! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Owl Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 1:43 PM, ThunderPeel2001 said: I guess the "original" secret was always going to be the plaque... but they had a second surprise for the player if they kept playing: The note. But they felt that was too 4th wall breaking even for MI, so they switched it for a joke secret... it literally being a t-shirt. However I wonder if Guybrush originally tore up the note or something? And the post-credits scene is him piecing it back together again? It's intriguing. Maybe you still wouldn’t even get to read it until after the credits when he pieces it back together, and it goes in the scrapbook. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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