bengar Posted June 5, 2003 Posted June 5, 2003 Quote I've just really lost interest in this level lately. I might get encouraged if someone sends some voices my way... AK.... what do u mean you lost interest? If i have to Ill send a sample of my voice...lol. You have to finish what you started... I know it's tough... Use the force AK!!! GO GO GO I love Mace. I cant wait for this level. Bengar
Antizac Posted June 6, 2003 Posted June 6, 2003 Quote Originally posted by bengar AK.... what do u mean you lost interest? If i have to Ill send a sample of my voice...lol. You have to finish what you started... I know it's tough... Use the force AK!!! GO GO GO I love Mace. I cant wait for this level. Bengar Don't bitch at Anthony, you should be giving me schitt for not finishing the voices he needs... ...And it's not that I'm lazy, it's just that, I actually have a life out side of the Star Wars/JK/JO community. *gasp*
Leslie Judge Posted June 6, 2003 Posted June 6, 2003 Quote Originally posted by Antizac I actually have a life out side of the Star Wars/JK/JO community. *gasp* It's a shame! How can you do that?
DarkLord60 Posted June 8, 2003 Posted June 8, 2003 Guys guys get a life and do something else for a change rather than camping in the forums and posting pointless posts that just upset people and cause problems. Don't complain he will finish it when he does. I can't wait to try it out myself but for now lets wait patiently and keep things cool, we wouldn't want this to turn into another forum thread like WIP: Tercero-Anakin Model. LOL lets keep it cool.
AKPiggott Posted June 12, 2003 Author Posted June 12, 2003 Has anyone either: a) Heard from Toonces recently? b) Heard anything about a Yoda model being released with facial bones?
AKPiggott Posted June 12, 2003 Author Posted June 12, 2003 Has anyone either: a) Heard from Toonces recently? b) Heard anything about a Yoda model being released with facial bones?
Eldritch Posted June 12, 2003 Posted June 12, 2003 I believe KaiaSowapit is releasing his new Yoda soon, which includes facial bones. I've seen Toonces around, but he's so busy with real life affairs he hasn't spent much time here.
DarkLord60 Posted June 12, 2003 Posted June 12, 2003 Quote Originally posted by Eldritch I believe KaiaSowapit is releasing his new Yoda soon, which includes facial bones. I've seen Toonces around, but he's so busy with real life affairs he hasn't spent much time here. I dont think the new Yoda will be comming out for awhile. I work with him at AOTCTC and I talked to him recently and he still has quite a bit to go yet.
idontlikegeorge Posted June 28, 2003 Posted June 28, 2003 Why not release what is completed, then perhaps if you feel the need to later, given the resources you originally wanted, make a "special edition" version. From what I gather, it's all aesthetic concerns right now, don't let sad circumstances concerning aesthetics kill this project! Please, for the love of god, this map has to be released! It would be the first time in three months that I would fire up JK2!
Eldritch Posted June 29, 2003 Posted June 29, 2003 george, chill. It's his right as an artist to release this when and only when he feels it's ready. Harassing AK won't make him release it any sooner.
AKPiggott Posted June 30, 2003 Author Posted June 30, 2003 I've decided I'm not going to release this level. Simply because I am not happy with the quality of it. There are too many unrecoverable technical problems with it and I'm not willing to release something like that. I've also lost a lot of interest in the game as well. However, maybe I'll start working on something new when JA comes out.
lassev Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 That's sad news indeed. However, the decision is yours to make. I hope JA will return some of your inspiration.
Altus_Thrawn Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 after all this time... ah well it's your choice, not mine you almost made me play sp again
wedge2211 Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 Quote Originally posted by AKPiggott I've decided I'm not going to release this level. Simply because I am not happy with the quality of it. There are too many unrecoverable technical problems with it and I'm not willing to release something like that. I've also lost a lot of interest in the game as well. However, maybe I'll start working on something new when JA comes out. Cut that out.
master_thomas Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 Oh man, I was looking forward to this map so hopefully. I got really happy when I thought you were going to release it soon. Oh well, I guess there are still lot of other good maps coming out soon. Man, this is sad.
Kengo Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 I really feel for you Ant, I've come close to projects dying on me a few times, but nothing like this. Just nearly losing a map caused a near full day of deep depression, this is something else - as dissapointed as everyone is that this level won't be coming out, I'm sure you must be feeling a lot worse, you put in a lot of time and effort, and I'm sure everyone will appreciate that after the dissapointment wears of a little. I'd like to offer to try to finish this off for you, for what its worth, although I don't really think I'm good enough to have a right to offer...I thought I would all the same, even thought I'm sure you'll want to lay it to rest. Anyway, I totally respect your judgement on this as I think everyone else should, as far as I'm concerned you're the man when it comes to SP map editing and quite simply the person most qualified in the whole community to make the decision!
PRSLou Posted July 1, 2003 Posted July 1, 2003 Man this really sucks...I mean I dunno you could at least put it out as an unfinished beta or something! At least we could appreciate what might have been. Oh well...
Eldritch Posted July 1, 2003 Posted July 1, 2003 As much as it sucks, I have to agree with AK. I think that he doesn't want to put something half-assed out for the public, and that's his right to do as the creator. If it's ever done one day, that'd be great. But in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter that much.
master_thomas Posted July 1, 2003 Posted July 1, 2003 I just feel upset that his months of work should go to such waste. It was going to be the best SP map ever made for Jedi Outcast. He spent so much time and effort for a map that is never going to be released. It's so sad.
DarkLord60 Posted July 1, 2003 Posted July 1, 2003 Quote Originally posted by master_thomas I just feel upset that his months of work should go to such waste. It was going to be the best SP map ever made for Jedi Outcast. He spent so much time and effort for a map that is never going to be released. It's so sad. I agree
wedge2211 Posted July 2, 2003 Posted July 2, 2003 If all that was left was a few lines for Mace and a Yoda model with a face, why not just live with a Yoda that can't move its mouth (really, no one would complain), and fudge the Mace dialogue, or cut it, or whatever? Really, that's all I heard was left, and that's no reason not to trash such great work just like that...
ewok mercenary Posted July 2, 2003 Posted July 2, 2003 What exactly are these "unrecoverable technical problems"? I'm sure whatever it is can't be that bad for the level and nobody wants to see all this hard work go to waste. Even if you don't think it's good enough to release, it'll still probably be awesome. Releasing a great level with some problems is a lot better than letting all that time and effort go down the drain and not releasing it at all. Please, seriously reconsider this AK.
DarkLord60 Posted July 2, 2003 Posted July 2, 2003 KaiaSowapit needs help with his yoda in order to finish it. I talked to him and he told me he wants to finish it but cant find anyone to help him. I forggot exactly what he needs but everyone at AOTCTC is to busy or cant help. and as far as voices so what who cares about them.
AKPiggott Posted July 3, 2003 Author Posted July 3, 2003 I don't look at this as a waste at all. I've learnt an awful lot about JO mapping making this level. I'm not willing to release this level without the voices either, that will make it unfinished. I'm not interested in releasing unfinished projects. Some of the testers with the very best machines suffered considerably with the technical framerate drops. It would be unwise for me to release this level when even the very best computers can't enjoy this level to the potential of which I designed it. The bottom line is that some areas were built quite sloppily, I didn't fully understand caulking and area portals and everything else so I simply didn't implement them. I've tried adding all that stuff in to make a difference and it makes a minute one at best. I don't expect all of you to understand my attitude in this. Bottom line is I've been making SP levels for years now and it's inexcusable of me to release anything of any low standard, technically or from a design point of view. Maybe I will work on a smaller scale project as a filler for when JA comes out.
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