Guardian Omega Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 http://www.msnbc.com/news/849637.asp?0dm=N19ON&cp1=1 Moral of the day: Never, ever trust the media when it comes to games...........They can convert it to propaganda and cater to the masses, in this case the feminism movement in the wrong way....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 The most popular video game in the nation is also the most violent, rewarding players who simulate kicking a prostitute to death, according to an annual report card released Thursday. The report card’s authors said the game — “Grand Theft Auto: Vice City” — reflects a growing trend toward violence against women in the industry’s most popular video games. ROTFL!!! Man they really missed out on a good game. They probably never even PLAYED it! Pathetic. I can kill cops the same way. Chainsawing cops in GTA: Vice City doesn't show a trend that kids like to be cop killers now does it? I also like killing gang members and starting big gang wars in the ghetto. Doesn't mean I'm stupid enough to walk into the ghetto, chainsaw in hand, and start massacring every black man I saw! Video game makers, for their part, cite federal statistics that show a drop in youth violence over the last decade, just when video games took off. No kidding? Could it be that children are having more fun playing SPORTS GAMES AND OTHER SUCH THINGS THEN STEALING AND KILLING? maybe...it's definatly something to think about. BMX XXX (Rated Mature; sold by Acclaim). This game topped the institute’s list because it includes not graphics but actual video of topless strippers. The institute felt the game should have received an “Adult Only” label. EVERYBODY thinks this game is over the top! Even Acclaim. On the PS2 censors have been put in place even. It's old news. It'll have a HUGE warning label on it that says "SHOWS NUDITY." No little kid is ever going to get away with buying that game. Ever. “Almost all video games are designed and produced by men,” the institute said in an analysis accompanying the report card. “Many games appear to reflect young male fantasies. It is very disturbing that the most popular games reflect a violent and misogynist attitude toward girls and women or treat girls and women as sexual playthings.” Yes it is disturbing that men can make games. Also it is very disturbing that some of these men are straight and do not dream about cute cuddily pink teddy bears on a regular basis. Parental lack of awareness. The institute said it had surveyed over 600 parents and teachers over the past month about “Grand Theft Auto” and less than 3 percent had any knowledge of the anti-female content of the game. Efforts to educate parents were given a C. Where's the racism against blacks? Where's the anti-mafia stereotype? Where's the anti-cop stereotype? Man, they need to be more thorough. Retailer limits. Few stores restrict access by children to Mature-rated games, the institute said in giving retailers an F. I havn't noticed a federal law yet. It's simply a recommendation. Besides, most stores may not check your ID, but if you are an 8 year old and can barely see over the counter, the store clerk is not about to sell you BMX XXX without parental permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpYzEr Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 I saw that on the news a couple of hours ago.. and I dont understand how its violent towards women? Most of the missions are where you kill male gangsters. I dont know where they got that BS from.. but Vice City is the best game! Wo0t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acrylic Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 I hope me daddy dont c that on the news........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmjedi Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 This guy just has nothing better to do. I play violent video games and I don't get into fights. The last time that I got into a fight was in the 6th grade and I am a Senior. I also do get a good GPA but lately I haven't because so many things that I have to manage. I play video games and I am very aggresive twords women. I want to know STTCT's, leXX's, and Lady Galadriel's opinion cause I know they are going to side with us. Stupid dumb ass thinks he knows a lot. I watched the video and he says that he's been studying this since he did a science project his 9th grade. This guy even took urine samples and he says that we are the one's with the problems. My best friends little brother has played GTA:3 and Vice City and he isn't aggresive or get's into fights and he's only 7 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 If they would take the strip bars out of the city, they would take the strip bars out of the games. It really dissapoints me that Senator Liberman is using Vice City and BMX XXX as the only two games here to represent games themselves. I mean, you don't see any of that crap in StarFleet Command III, or Jedi Outcast. Sheesh, I don't think the hard-headed democrats will ever stop. (nothing personal towards democrats,I just don't like a few of them. Liberman for example ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X R Kun Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 Some body give that man a game! Im sure he has never ever touched an electronic game before. Who cares if he uses a box when he was a kid to play with coz it helps stimulate imagination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediNyt Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 I must say that some games go too far (Like Adult games. I dont go for those.)but reviews that just rant on games in general are just out of line. A game is a game. Some are bad some are good. I myself am very particular and careful about the games I get. When I pay the money I expect a great game that will last a long time. I only play what I think is the best of each catagory. I only have 3 first person shooter games and will get 4 soon and just stick with that. AVP2, UT2K3, and JK2. Games when not used in excess (like all things can be) are very enriching and of course entertaining. Some are quite educational. As far as bloody games, theyre just for fun and getting out agressions. When screwed up kids go and shoot up their schools its not cause they played a shooter game and got inspired to do it for real. No its cause they are seriously ****ed up in the head and need professional help and more attention from their parents who are little more than brain dead. Get real world. Again though I urge some game makers to tone down on the adult content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 Here here! *raises glass* I couldn't have said it better myself, JediNyt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 These people need to take a break and look at the whole picture. They think that only video games are not restricted and monitered and other things in life are perfect...YA RIGHT! Do movie theaters check your ID when you are buying a ticket for a R-rated movie? Sometimes, but most of the time no. Do gas station owners frequently sell cigarettes, alcohol, and other "supposedly" adult stuff to kids and minors? Of course. Now I do believe some games have gone too far in the areas of violence, sexual themes, and the like. IMHO, most of these games are not even worth playing (with some exception of course). What these people need to do is stop ranting on and on and on about absolute crap and start teaching EVERYONE about the rating system of video games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-s/<itzo- Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 i did a research paper on children and tv violence before. ok heres a brief summary: hundreds of studies of the effects of violence in television on children and teenagers have found that children may: - become "immune" to the horror of violence therefore less sensitive to the pain and suffering of others. - gradually accept violence as a way to solve problems. - immitate the violence they observe on tv. and be more likely to behave in aggressive or harmful ways toward others. the impact of tv violence may be immediately evident in the child's behavior or may surface years later, and young people can even be affected when the family atmosphere shows no tendency toward violence. this des not mean that violence on tv is the only source for aggressive or violent behavior, but it is a significant contributor. young children do not process information in the same way as adults. nor do they have the experience or judgement to evaluate what they see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediNyt Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 Thats why parents need to parent their kids. Duh. Teach them that violence is not the answer to everything. That violence hurts people and should only be used as a last resort. But dont keep them so sheltered and closed off from reality that they become fragile and weak people who are permanently scared the first time they see violence. Becoming immune to the horror of war and death is a good thing. It makes you strong. But one side requires the other or else caos results. One should understand and avoid real violence as much as possible but when it is nessesary one must be prepared and unafraid. That is a well rounded person. One who is strong yet compassionate. Its the Jedi way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 Yes, you must learn to accept violence and yet refrain from inflicting it upon others. You must find balance within yourself. Only then will you be the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X R Kun Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 Violent games does contribute to the build up in a child's mind. So does TV, Magazines, Books, Parents, Teachers, Friends, schoolmates...... PS if jedis arent o violent, then y did Obi Wan sliced up that guys arm in Mos Eisley Cantina:ben: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfnshannon Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 AHHH - i tried to post this and it deleted. I'll try and remember what i said Why is it that everyone thinks it is the retailer's responsibilty to regulate what our children buy? I'm sorry but I used to work in an electronics department and I have a real big thing about this. I was yelled at sooo many times by irate parents who were pissed that their precious children's virgin eyes and ears were subjected to material that "We" as retailers should have said No you can't have this. Most of the time the kids older brother's or friends buy it for them. How am I supposed to know that the 8 year old boy bought it on his own? Where were the parents when this 8 year old boy wandered into Walmart or Target to buy this violent video game. You can bet they were either somewhere in the store not watching him or he was with older friends. Parents have the responsibilty to make sure their kids are not buying these types of games! I'm sorry but why is your kid allowed to go spend over 50 bucks all by his self? You don't ask him what he bought...?? You aren't there with him to make sure he doesn't go buy drugs with it or anything? I personally own "violent" video games and let me tell you. My son will know he is not allowed to play them or even watch them till I feel he is mature enough to. He will know that he is not allowed to buy games like that and I will always try to be involved with what he is playing and watching. Yes, sometimes things slip through the cracks...he will make mistakes and play games that I probably will not agree with. It is my parenting and his sence of right and wrong that is going to distinguish between the fact that while you may gun down people in video games without concequence...you just can't go do that in real life. Besides...if I found him with a game like Vice City at 8 years old I would probably be mad at him and NOT the company or the retailer because...well...my son made that bad decision to play it. And its my responsibilty to raise my son the way I see fit. Its like those people who are sueing Mc Donalds because their kids are over-weight...shaaaa duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff38 Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 You know I have become very proud to be a member of this forum. Everytime I connect I find thoughtful intelligent respectful conversation. I guess Jedi minds think alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skate Boy Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 That's sad. I admit, some parts of the game are a little( ) violent, but it's not too voilent. I also think that it's the parents fault if they let their kids buy this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowTemplar Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 I think that the supposed influence of video games on children's behavior is vastly overrated. At least people in GTA die when they are kicked in the head. Not every movie has the common decency to avoid getting the characters into fights that would kill them 10 times over. Besides children are far more exposed to movies than computer games. I say make the violence in movies credible before you start gunning at video games. BTW, Guardian: Is that a Dark Elf in your sig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 Originally posted by Skate Boy That's sad. I admit, some parts of the game are a little( ) violent, but it's not too voilent. I also think that it's the parents fault if they let their kids buy this. i agree with you skate boy, my parents bought me games that they've seen played like daffy duck and batman and road runner and if xXx is in the title i think my parents would've checked the game out first but now im old enough and can play what i want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Omega Posted December 20, 2002 Author Share Posted December 20, 2002 To ShadowTemplar: Dark Elf??? Where? Here's the place where I found them....... http://s1.cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=33074&topic=5615483 http://s1.cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=33074&topic=5607903 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<Im Yo Pusha> Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 i agree, thats crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 What a load of dog doodoo. You can't just single out one game and then say that women are constantly being portrayed as victims, that is just plain stupid. Men are always victims too and women play the lead killer in a lot of games. Yeah, bad Ryu for killing Chun Li! As for the keeping children from violent games issue, well that's up to the industry just as much as the parents. The industry has to put sensible ratings on games and it is then up to the parents to enforce it. Of course underaged children are going to get hold of these games but the parents have to check what games their children have and make sure they don't have anything unappropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHobGoblin Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 It's up to the parents. They f***in said that Max Payne was fighting the cops. Ehhhhh wrong would you like a Life line you only got get a brain left. Max Payne is against crime. I hate them when they say the most stupidest things. Even a game that has only a bit of violence they say is too much for kids, Like they know. Soon they're gonna try ban Super heros. They just want ratings. They I have the same veiw as us but they want ratings thats all. They should lay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pisces Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 Originally posted by X R Kun Violent games does contribute to the build up in a child's mind. So does TV, Magazines, Books, Parents, Teachers, Friends, schoolmates...... I've seen violent T.V., movies, etc. since I was 6 and I'm probably the least violent person I know. All they've really done is de-sensitized me to violence (it's not as bad ) Anyway, games like Vice City, I play them because of the total freedom. I do things in games that I would never, ever think of doing in real life. That's part of the purpose in games, to escape reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acrylic Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 Originally posted by NeoDios That's part of the purpose in games, to escape reality. Just like aresen right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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