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is it just me or does it feel like where ever you go theres tons and tons of lamers...duels now consist of 90% throwing, and force powers...FFA's you cant type or youll wind up dieing within seconds....does anyone else feel the same way?...i personaly am starting to concider just staying with JO because JA is no fun with the constant laming. and the sabers are horribly onbalanced...the double saber and staff sabers are only supposed to take more damage when you get hit by both blades...duh. i noticed that one hit from any double saber or staff is double the one hit of a single saber when it should be the same...the advantage should be that they can hit with two blades which can cause double the damage...but when they connect with one it should be the same!! and the powermoves for single saber dont even work that well :( the only affective styles are red and yellow...blue is pretty well useless because it only takes like 12 hp.. take red DFA...when a saber comes down on you and cuts you downt he center your supposed to die ...duh....and i think impale should be allowed in MP so you can kill the people who run from you. i noticed its alot harder to gain speed by jumping now so how in the world are you supposed to kill somone that runs??

oh well..such is life....JA is diesign so its easier to use the sabers but thats because they wanted to make it easier for the noobs...however i think thats where they went terribly wrong.....

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Originally posted by lazoras

is it just me or does it feel like where ever you go theres tons and tons of lamers...

What do you define as laming? I don't really consider anyone who is attempting to play the game a lamer. Standing around emoting is pretty lame though.

 

Originally posted by lazoras

duels now consist of 90% throwing, and force powers...

What?! Players are using abilities given to them by the game?!! They must be stopped!! :) Perhaps you can post a list of all the things you don't want other players to use. Or, failing that, perhaps you can play on a no force server...

 

Originally posted by lazoras

FFA's you cant type or youll wind up dieing within seconds....

This is probably the most common mistake made by newbie players. When you are chatting, you are unable to attack or defend yourself. This, of course, will likely get you killed. There are several solutions to this however. The easiest ways are to learn how to type faster or better yet not chatting at all. These are most effective. The least effective solution to chat at length and demand that everyone not attack while you are doing so.

 

But in then end, you just respawn and the game goes on, so what is the big deal?

 

Originally posted by lazoras

does anyone else feel the same way?...

Probably, but I don't. You can decide whether that matters to you or not.

 

Originally posted by lazoras

i personaly am starting to concider just staying with JO because JA is no fun with the constant laming.

Good idea. There was no laming in JO.

 

Originally posted by lazoras

and the powermoves for single saber dont even work that well :(

For you, or for everyone? They certainly seem effective for me. I must be laming...

 

Originally posted by lazoras

the only affective styles are red and yellow...blue is pretty well useless because it only takes like 12 hp..

Actually, I find blue great, especially for the uppercut. I find the uppercut very handy when people are spamming the rolling stab or dual saber barrier. They are defenseless at the end of the move, which provides the perfect time for an uppercut. It can also be usefull against red stance, as it can make quick strikes between red swings.

 

Originally posted by lazoras

i noticed its alot harder to gain speed by jumping now so how in the world are you supposed to kill somone that runs??

Force speed? Saber throw? A gun?

 

Originally posted by lazoras

oh well..such is life....JA is diesign so its easier to use the sabers but thats because they wanted to make it easier for the noobs...however i think thats where they went terribly wrong.....

Since you don't find any of the single saber moves effective (yet), and you are surprised that you die while chatting, it sounds as though you might be a newbie player. A little practice can fix that, of course :)
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I agree on blue stance, it is pretty much useless, except for uppercut of course.

Yellow is much better than blue again red, thanks to the longer range, more damage, and close to same speed. Yellow DFA and red DFA are both completely worthless.

As for laming: Get over it, don't put your sword down or attempt to chat and you will NEVER get lamed, that I promise ;) . Force powers are a part of the game, except in NF servers, try that if you don't like force.

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I'm kind of curious as to the age/gender demographic that is the "honor" folk.

 

The reason I mention that is, I have a very difficult time picturing anyone who is:

 

Male

Weighs over 100 pounds

Over 12 years old

 

Crying about "lamers".

 

 

 

I really get this mental image of some 93 pound, pale skinned, scrawny ass little kid, who never goes outdoors, has no friends, has never played any contact sports in his life, every time I hear some one bitch about being "lamed" in a video game.

 

 

Really, no joke, every time I see a person in a server cry "lamer" I get this flash back to my elementary school days.

 

Only difference is they were crying "mommy" back on the play ground instead of lamer...

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Originally posted by FK | unnamed

I'm kind of curious as to the age/gender demographic that is the "honor" folk.

 

The reason I mention that is, I have a very difficult time picturing anyone who is:

 

Male

Weighs over 100 pounds

Over 12 years old

 

Crying about "lamers".

 

 

 

I really get this mental image of some 93 pound, pale skinned, scrawny ass little kid, who never goes outdoors, has no friends, has never played any contact sports in his life, every time I hear some one bitch about being "lamed" in a video game.

 

 

Really, no joke, every time I see a person in a server cry "lamer" I get this flash back to my elementary school days.

 

Only difference is they were crying "mommy" back on the play ground instead of lamer...

 

I get the same picture in my head when I see people yelling "LAMER."

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I wouldn't have any problem with the honour sysetm(not attacking those in chat or with sabre down)......if other people weren't disobeying it and using it to their advantage.

 

If some guy comes running past with his sabre down, and I swipe at him, he might say "hey! no laming or you'll get kicked!".

But I've seen people who run past me with the sabre down and take it out at the last second to start attacking.

 

I find the honour system to be a bit of a wimpy way out anyway. I'd only use it because I was low on health and wanted to get more before fighting. I'm not too bothered about killing my character, so I don't bother to do that.

 

It's quite entertaining though, to go with sabre down and have some guy chase you......but he never catches up. hehehe

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Good god, I WISH it was just YOU!

 

The saddest thing is if some of you folks spent half as much time playing instead of complaining, you might actually improve and enjoy the game more.

 

I'm sick of people confusing FFA for a glorified chat room and/or whining about the "Force" being used in a friggin STAR WARS game.

 

Perhaps this is more your speed? btie.gif

 

Do us both a favor and stay OFF my server... PLEASE.

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Originally posted by KaiaSowapit

Perhaps this is more your speed? btie.gif

 

that N00B PONY LAMED ME!!

i was putting all the pretty horses in the right places (and making them bow and kiss each other while the other horses watched) and one of them attacked me!!!!

(i didnt even have me saber out!)

so me and the other ponies kicked that laming horse out and we kept on brushing each others hair and stuff

 

:rolleyes:

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Frankly when I see people doing that stuff I don't see "lamers" I rather see people whining about stuff that doesn't need to be whined about.

 

On my server if somebody kills me while my saber is off or I'm typing, I don't get mad, I don't ban them, I just laugh it off and keep playing.

 

If somebody "spams" a move, it usually just makes them easier to defeat, so I don't get bothered by that either.

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Originally posted by Master William

poor guy. I pity him. He just posted what he feels, and everyone jumped on him and ate him alive.

 

R.I.P

 

But just wait, Rod Blackrose has yet to post, the bloodfest aint over :p

 

Talk about flame bait.

 

How ****ing pathetic can you get, seriously?

 

Troll.jpg

 

Maybe after I finish my paper I'll comment, but not with your half a$$ed **** in mind.

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lazoras...

 

I think it depends on where you go. Using Qtracker or AllSeeingEye along with the Favorites folder has dramatically improved my experience online. Some nights if I'm in the mood for true FFA where hitting Chat is a risky proposition and "it is unwise to lower your defenses" is the general rule, I'll go to those type of servers. Other times when I'm feeling more like FFA dueling, practicing with others, or simply using it as a glorified chatroom, I'll go to the servers that cater to that style.

 

In my experience so far, finding the right place that fits your style is the key to having a good time online.

 

duels now consist of 90% throwing, and force powers...

Yesterday on several different FFA servers I encountered duelists who restrained from using Katas in duels at all. It was surprising and refreshing, as well as very challenging. So they're out there... try to find a Duel server with Force powers disabled regularly - it they do enable them sometimes, the players will probably be more sparing with them. Or find an FFA server that is welcoming to duels, since force powers are automatically disabled in an FFA duel (at least on every server I've been on).

 

FFA's you cant type or youll wind up dieing within seconds....

If you jump far out of the way of the action into a remote location before chatting, people generally leave you alone. When fighting someone else or a group, jump far enough away and immediately turn off the saber and hit the chat button... 90% of the time they'll let you say what you have to before slicing into you.

 

Occasionally there's a guy who likes increasing his score by hitting the defenseless... just let him go. It doesn't really matter, if you're having fun. And you can always challenge him to a duel later if you like to settle the score... if he wins, leave him alone; if you win, then give him a hard time afterwards if you like.

 

Many of the supposed 'lamers' I've encountered aren't really meaning to be. There's been a few who I simply said, "Hey man, not cool..." to, and later on we had some good exchanges. Remember that the game is still pretty new, and since most of the JK2 diehards have a copy, the new people will be completely new to this game with no JK2 experience... so cut them some slack. Everyone here was a noob at some point.

 

Many of the server admins seem to be a little too strict to me - but it's understandable since it's kinda necessary to keep the real nasty players in line. But if I see an admin posting "lamers will be kicked and banned" messages in all caps over and over again, I'll leave the server and go somewhere a little more relaxed.

 

take red DFA...when a saber comes down on you and cuts you downt he center your supposed to die

That'shappened to me several times on normal damage servers. I'm strictly a Saberstaff artist myself, and in my experience the most difficult duels are the ones with Single Saber players. Several times I've been taken out with a single blow by an experienced player. So don't knock the single saber... it has the most flexibility of the three.

 

Personally I'm enjoying the saber combat of JA a whole lot more than I did in JK. Especially when dueling with seasoned players or those who refrain from using the Katas. Yesterday I had one FFA duel with a Double Saber wielder that lasted almost fifteen minutes, and we were both sweating it out at the end.

 

So to sum up... playing online isn't as bad as many of the posts on the forum here make it out to be. Just find a server where you enjoy the style, settings, and people... and have fun!

 

That's all everybody wants, is to have fun playing...

 

;)

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I also noticed that most of the jk2 ppl are also starting to lame now. what the hell is goning on?!?!?!:mad:

:mad:

 

And i hate that stupid gh3y n00b lamer at kurgan's server, keeps on laming and spaming saber throw. And attack while im chatting or changing my force settings. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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It's just you...

 

I frequent a server that has "saber code enforced" Not because I like the saber code but because they have custom maps going all the time. So I try to tolerate it but more and more frequently I'm getting kicked. I wish it were true but there are very few lamers. I am very upset about that fact.

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Originally posted by lazoras

is it just me or does it feel like where ever you go theres tons and tons of lamers...

 

Yes, it's just you. But first you need to understand what you are complaining about.

 

>> Define laming. Breaking the "rules", right? Now you realize that there really isn't such a thing as "laming". There are only little kids with little silly fantasy rules that the rest of the gaming community couldn't care less about.

 

Since there are no rules (if you disagree, please tell me on what page of the manual it says anything about "no throwing sabers" etc. because I must have missed it) there is no breaking the rules. If everyone is playing according to the rules, then they obviously aren't "laming".

 

The only laming around here is done by you people who complain about lamers. Play the damn game and have fun. Nobody likes a whiner and nobody cares about your personal view on how the game should be played. :)

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Hehehehe. Get drunk, get laid, jerk off, try some dope, get a life, have you heart broken by a hot chick, see how pubic hair now grows on you, shave up, get a job, study something, watch porn movies, mess with the police at least once, fight with your parents, become best friends with them then, vote for a terrible president, lose money on bad bets, stand up again and resume the daily fight, get into a riot and beat ppl, etc, etc, etc.

 

After doing all that, or at least part of it you'll feel how playing online games gets much better. You start to see funny ppl and sad ppl, no more lamers or honorers, lol.

 

You just sit down, relax and try to hit them as hard as you can and laugh your ass off in the process, even IF the other players aren't more than poor bastards.

 

It's only a GAME for Christ sakes, what kind of dumb, real LAME, discussions are these??? You should be discussing how hot Raven did the chicks in JA. o.O? Why the hell did you bought a beat'em up game like JA if you like to speak about honor and rpg, go buy SWG.

 

PS: Kaia, did you pinch my ass?

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Very simple solution to the laming problem:

 

Show up to play (and play constantly meaning never turn your blade off) and you'll never be lamed.

 

 

The problem with laming stems from the concept that an online deathmatch game should also serve as a chat hang-out. After watching JK2 decline from fun FFA to OpenGL chatroom, I personally find it very refreshing that the cluster of servers that I frequent are "all play; all the time." I've also noticed that several servers that started off with the "saber off=peace" in their MOTD have removed it.

 

The message is coming through loud and clear. The player community doesn't want JKA to end up like JK2 did.

 

Lazoras, I'm sorry if this is spoiling your fun but I'd strongly suggest finding a server out there that supports the situation that you're looking for. If you're randomly picking servers to join you're going to run into a LOT of servers with players that have no mercy on those who stand around and chat. You've got new-to-JK2 players who have no idea what the ghastly "honor" code is and you also have many of us from JK2 who aren't about to let JKA turn into what JK2 became.

 

If chatting is what you're coming to a game server for, then you might want to rethink and try a relay chat program like IRC. I'm sure there are many Star Wars channels to choose from.

 

Also, if you think that the saber types are unbalanced, I'd suggest some serious practice time mastering the timing, stances and swings of each. I think after a little homework, you'll find that no one weapon type is better than the other. There is a counter for everything (more than one in most cases).

 

Treat the game like a game and you might be surprised at how much fun you can really have.

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