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My dad has agreed that he will help me gradually upgrade my computer. Now, it's a really, really old comp,. but I am gonna custom make one by adding parts to it slowly. I need to know...

A)Will all of this work together...

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		     Bobs Gaming Rig 2007
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Intel Pentium 4 2.6GHz, 512K 800 FSB Socket 478 Hyper Threading
Tray Processor............................................$149.90
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3650505[/url]

**Maxtor 160GB L01M160 8MB Buffer Serial ATA (SATA) - Retail
Hard Drive Kit............................................$138.00
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3825697[/url]

Diamond Stealth S110 256MB DDR AGP 8X Vido Card w/ATI's
RADEON 9200 3D Chip.......................................$129.99
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3985558[/url]

Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Gamer Edition Sound Card
w/Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy,
   Halo, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield,
      Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell, Lara Croft Tomb Raider:
         The Angel of Darkness............................$129.99
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3875187[/url]

MS Window XP Full Home ............................................$99.99
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3122690[/url]

Kingston 512MB PC2100 266MHz 64x64 DDR 184Pin......................$89.99
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3325962[/url]

Memorex 52X CD-RW/16xDVD-ROM Combo Drive...........................$69.99
[url]http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3970328[/url]

*Inspire 5.1 Slim 5200 6-Piece Speaker System......................$69.99
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3458223[/url]

Fudin ATX-268WUP 350W Blue Mid Tower ATX Case......................$59.99
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3452643[/url]

PC Chips M950 Via P4X400 Socket 478 Mainboard......................$49.99
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4028972[/url]

MGE: ACFA-MECCUV-SB CCFL Fan, UV Cold Cathode W/UV 
Sensative Fan(x4)..........................................$39.96
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3867807[/url]

Vantec Aeroflow 2 P4 Intel Pentium 4...............................$24.99
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3975548[/url]

3.5" 1.44 MB Internal Floppy Drive Boxed Unit......................$12.99
[url]http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3535274[/url]

Blue Cold Cathode Tube Light........................................$9.99
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3410683[/url]

Vantec HDC-502A Hard Drive Cooler...................................$9.99
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3972938[/url]

Memorex ScrollPro Optical Mouse.....................................$9.99
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3262701[/url]

Memorex MX2700 Multimedia Keyboard..................................$9.99
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3262801[/url]

*Belkin WaveRest Gel Mouse Pad Silver................................$9.95
[url]http://shop4.outpost.com/product/2698912[/url]

Subtotal........................................................$1,102.68
Overnight Shipping......................................(starts at)+$9.64
Tax...............................................................+$82.70

Grand Total......................................................$1195.02

 

And B) In what order will I need to get the parts. Example. I get the P4, windows, and motherboard and then install them in it...woul it wtill work? This is the current comp...

Compaq Presario 5050
(250-8116)            Specifications                  Faxback Doc. # 52605

Case Type:........................................................MiniTower
Processor:................................Intel Celeron Processor - 333 MHz
Cache:..................................................128KB full-speed L2
Standard RAM:.................................................96MB SyncDRAM
Maximum RAM:..........................................................256MB
                                                  (SyncDRAM DIMM required)
Hard Drive:........................................................8.0GB(4)
CD-ROM Drive:....................................................32X Max(2)
Modem:......................................................56K ITU V.90(3)
Graphics:........................2X AGP (133 MHz Accelerated Graphics Port)
                                                        ATI 3D Rage LT Pro
                                    2 MB 100 MHz SyncGraphics video memory
                                                      (upgradable to 4 MB)
 MPEG FMV Playback:....................................................Yes
 Maximum NI Resolution:........................................1280 x 1024
                                               (when supported by monitor)
 Digital Flat Panel (DFP) Port:........................................Yes
Multimedia controls:.............................................Play/Pause
                                                                      Stop
                                                            Previous Track
                                                                Next Track
                                        Favorite Application Launch Button
                                                            Volume Up/Down
                                                                      Mute
                                                              Sleep Button
Keyboard:...................................104-key Compaq Windows keyboard
Compaq Audio:                   Aureal A3D Interactive 360 Positional Sound
                                                        Spatializerr Sound
                                                              FM Synthesis
Compaq Multimedia:.....................................................MPEG
                                                           Audio CD player
                                       Video player (AVI, MPEG and others)
Diskette Drive:.................................................3.5" 1.44MB
Mouse:.........................................................Compaq mouse
Compatibility:................................................Plug-and-Play
                                                  NSTL Year 2000 compliant
Power Supply:.............................................Steady-state 110W
                                                     Energy Star compliant
Expansion Slots:...........................One open PCI expansion slot (9")
                               One modem installed PCI/ISA combo slot (9")
                                                    One open ISA slot (9")
Expansion Bays:.............................Four drive bays populated with:
                                                       3.5" diskette drive
                                                                Hard drive
                                                              CD-ROM drive
                                 One external 3.5" or 5.25" drive bay open
I/O Interfaces:
 Two USB ports (front accessible) 
 RS-232C (16550):.................................................(1) DB-9
 Parallel (EPP/ECP):.............................................(1) DB-25
 Joystick/MIDI/Game:.............................................(1) DB-15
                                                        (front accessible)
 Modem:..........................................................(2) RJ-11
                                                       (1 input, 1 output)
 Audio:....................................................(4) 1/8" Stereo
                        (headphone/speaker-out, mic-in, line-in, line-out)
 Mouse:...........................................................(1) MD-6
 Keyboard:........................................................(1) MD-6
 Monitor:........................................................(1) DB-15
 Digital Flat Panel (DFP):...............................................1
Dimensions & Weights (H x W x D):
 Unit:....................................16.0" x 8.38" x 12.88" (24 lbs.)
 Package:...............................22.63" x 19.79" x 13.19" (32 lbs.)

FOOTNOTES:

(2) 32X Max CD-ROM drive data transfer rates may vary from 1800 to 4800
   Kbps.

(3) ITU V.90 modems are designed only to allow faster downloads from
   K56flex or V.90 compliant digital sources.  Maximum achievable download
   transmission rates are currently unknown, may not reach 56 Kbps, and
   will vary with line conditions.

(4) For hard drives, GB = billion bytes.

(5) Works with most third-party devices.

(RDS/BKL-05/12/1999)

 

Please, anyone that helps will get a brownie.

 

:)

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Well, those seem pretty good. ;)

 

The order.... .well, what do you mean? Are you gonna take parts out of your old computer, and then put the new ones in? You might be better off just selling your old one, and put the money towards the new parts you are buying.

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Originally posted by ZBomber

Well, those seem pretty good. ;)

 

The order.... .well, what do you mean? Are you gonna take parts out of your old computer, and then put the new ones in? You might be better off just selling your old one, and put the money towards the new parts you are buying.

 

What he said Bob, ground up ;)

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Answer to A:

All of those parts should work together without a problem, you may run into a bad part, but any comp store worth a damn will replace any defective parts free of charge.

 

Also, you may want to shop around, take a look at newegg or compUSA (if you have one in your area, there are NONE here in SC)

 

Answer to B:

If you mean getting the parts & installing them in the old case, you may run into the problem that the old case will not have room or the right mounts for the motherboard. Especially since the old cpu is a P1, most likely will not support a brand new mobo, best to go with completely new everything.

 

If you mean, get the new case & install the parts, then it is really up to you. I suggest mobo, power supply, and anything after that you'll have to use your own judgement based on the design of your case and layout of mobo. You can probably find tutorials on how to properly build an entire system somewhere online, just have to "google it".

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Originally posted by Astrotoy7

pfft. building computers is for nerds.....

 

*wishes he could build a computer* :(

 

mtfbwya

 

If you're talking money-wise, then nevermind. But otherwise its really really easy. Ya just need a good tutorial on how to do it.

 

EDIT: Oh, and Bongo, My school will probably take it.

:p

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And you'd be a fool to ignore the anti-aliasing least square boolean-binary scsi interface for the new usb cmos configuration device which uses smtp over the ssl to create a vpn tunnel to connect to a sql srv that does a query against it's db for the proper config & then ftps the correct config asap.

 

 

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Originally posted by Astrotoy7

pfft. building computers is for nerds.....

 

*wishes he could build a computer* :(

 

mtfbwya

 

It's easy. It's all connecting part A to motherboard. It's a whole lot easier than, say, trying to troubleshoot a problem with a game. Really, it is.

 

Anyway it looks ok. However, I'd change the p4 and it's motherboard with an AMD 2400+ mobile and motherboard; it'll be cheaper, and you can overclock the amd to 2.5ghz usually(really really good, equals roughly to a 3.0ghz P4 at the least). And change the 9200 Stealth Ati video card to a regular 9600 xt built by Ati(only 40 dollars more).

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ABSOLUTELY DO NOT BUILD YOUR NEW COMPUTER IN THAT OLD CASE!!

 

Power Supply:.............................................Steady-state 110W

Energy Star compliant

 

You'll need a 300W power supply minimum. And, that case will have totally inadequate cooling. The case (and it's cooling ability) and the power supply are two of the most important and overlooked components in a high-performance PC.

 

It's not hard to build a computer Astrotoy. I convinced one of my co-workers to give it a try. He really knew nothing about computers, but I pointed him to some resources, he was very thorough and meticulous, and it booted up THE VERY FIRST TIME he powered it up. I was very impressed! He enjoyed it so much and learned so much and he understands every piece of his computer so much that he said he would never buy a computer again.

 

Here are some good resources:

 

http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20040529/index.html

 

http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20020904/index.html

 

http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20020918/index.html

 

http://www.maximumpc.com/reprints/reprint_2002-03-13.html

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Originally posted by Egg Destroyer

If you're talking money-wise, then nevermind. But otherwise its really really easy. Ya just need a good tutorial on how to do it.

 

EDIT: Oh, and Bongo, My school will probably take it.

:p

 

Eggster, isnt it you that has a toshiba satellite 5200 as well... mine's in getting the drive replaced ATM, but after having that gem, I could *never* go back to desktops. my comp needs to travel, desktops arent practical. yeah I know the cost and upgradability factors, but that doesnt affect me as I upgrade the whole comp regularly through my business lease...

 

Im on our IBM p3 800 desktop right now, and I feel like im back in the dark ages... :p but i know alot of ppl would love even to have one of these, so Im not takin it for granted, believe me :D

 

*pines to have his little Toshi 5200 back*

 

mtfbwya

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Originally posted by Amidala from Chop Shop

ABSOLUTELY DO NOT BUILD YOUR NEW COMPUTER IN THAT OLD CASE!!

 

Amidala's in the swamp ! you probably wouldnt remember me from the JA forum but hullo ! Hope to see you here a bit more often.... :D

 

thanks for the links :) I gotta learn more about this stuff, might come in handy one day

 

mtfbwya

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Here's the finished specs...

 

AMD Athlon XP 2600+ CPU
$92.00 + Tax($0.00) + Shipping(Free) = $92.00
[url]http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=2828[/url]

Refurbished Biostar Mobo Model# M7NCD PRO
$29.99 + Tax($0.00) + Shipping($1.00) = $30.00
[url]http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-138-227R&depa=0[/url]

Maxtor 120GB SATA/150 7200RPM 8MB Cache Retail Kit
$114.02 + Tax($0.00) + Shipping($0.00) = $114.02
[url]http://www.securemart.com/cgi-bin/future/SM420016.html?pcode=1[/url]

Power Color ATI Radeon 9600Pro 256MB 8X TV/DVI
$139.00 + Tax($0.00) + Shipping($0.00) = $139.00
[url]http://www.pcsupplysource.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=VGA%2DATI256%2D96PC&cc=&tpc=[/url]

Windows XP Home W/SP2 OEM-DSP
$85.00 + Tax($0.00) + Shipping($0.00) = $85.00
[url]http://www.directdeals.com/item_OEM-WINXPHD.aspx[/url]

Kingston 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 RAM
$88.00 + Tax($0.00) + Shipping($0.00) = $88.00
[url]http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-424&depa=0[/url]

40X12X48X Lite-On CD-RW IDE INT Black LTR40125s
$23.99 + Tax($0.00) + Shipping($8.45) = $32.44
[url]http://grabber.compuvest.com/Description.jsp?ItemID=70044[/url]

Total..............$580.46

PLUS Xoxide Order

Xoxide Blue UV Reactive Case 
Add Lighting:UV Cold Cathode
Add Secondary Lighting:2nd UV Cold Cathode
Add Power Supply:400W Icute
Add Fans:5 Quad Blue UV LED Fans
.............$160.95
[url]http://xoxide.com/bluvreclca.html[/url]

PLUS

Arctic Cooling Copper Silent 2L
Add thermal Compound:Arctic Silver Ceramique
.............$23.98
[url]http://xoxide.com/coppersilent2l.html[/url]

PLUS  

Multimedia Illuminated Keyboard
   w/Black Keys
.............$34.99
[url]http://xoxide.com/keyboard.html[/url]

PLUS

Blue LED Fan Mouse(Blue)
.............$13.99
[url]http://xoxide.com/fanmouse.html[/url]

PLUS

18" UV Sensitive Dual Device Round
IDE Cable
.............$4.99
[url]http://xoxide.com/18uvsedudero.html[/url]

PLUS

UV Sensitive Round 10" Floppy Cable
.............$3.99
[url]http://xoxide.com/roundfloppy.html[/url]

PLUS

Serial ATA Power Adapter(UV Blue)
.............$5.99
[url]http://xoxide.com/serialata.html[/url]

PLUS

Zalman 5.1 Surround Ultimate Gaming
Headphones
.............$43.99
[url]http://xoxide.com/za51suulgahe.html[/url]

Subtotal.....$292.87
Shipping.....$20.74
Tax..........$0.00

Total........$312.83



Grand Total..$893.47

 

How bout dem apples XP

 

And I think I may have convinsed my dad to shell out the cash and help me build it. Yayness :D

 

EDIT: Forgot to include the links to teh Xoxide stuff.

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good looking rig :thumbsup:

 

Pro is quite a bit better

 

 

apart from being able to use multiple processors, the only differences between home & pro is more network tools like user / access rights etc.

 

if you're not going to be putting it on a network then there's really no point paying extra for pro.

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