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"Why does everyone forget about the crow?"

 

 

I dunno, but I don't think the crow appeals to the masses my man... it looked odd and depressing and something I dont ever plan to see.

 

 

 

 

I hope spidey 2 rox my sox , my 7 dollar sox. 7 dollar sox rox! go local bands!

 

 

kthxbai:p

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[snide cynicism]great, another superhero movie[/snide cynicism]

 

*yawn*

 

the art of cinema takes another kick in the guts from the mass market appeal hollywood juggernaut

 

Kurosawa is dead

Greenaway and Lynch havent done anything for years

Krieszlowski has put himself out to pasture

 

the closest thing we have left as 'directuers auteur' are the Wachowski Bros............ *runs away pulling hair and screaming*

 

 

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Originally posted by Mike Windu

"Why does everyone forget about the crow?"

 

 

I dunno, but I don't think the crow appeals to the masses my man... it looked odd and depressing and something I dont ever plan to see.

 

You should watch the original, it is pretty cool. Unfortunately it has become an obsesion for a whole lot of disaffected kids who now walk around in silly outfits and makeup thinking they are making some sort of statement. If you ignore all that then it is a cool film though. In order:

 

--GREAT------

Superman

Batman

X-men 2

The Crow

Batman Returns

--GOOD-------

X-men

Superman 2

Blade

--OK-----------

Spiderman

The Hulk

Underworld

--POOR--------

Daredevil

Blade 2

Superman 3

--SUCKS-------

Batman 3&4, Superman 4, any crow sequels

have i forgotten anything?:D

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It is interesting how times revises views on some of these 'big hype' things - I liken Spiderman (#1) to UT2k3. Both were hyped, and when they came out everyone was saying 'r0x0r ... best ever' ... but now with a bit of perspective, everyone says 'we *knew* UT2k3 was flawed ... we *knew* Spidey1 was mediocre'. Yeah, right.

 

Mike

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Originally posted by toms

...it has become an obsesion for a whole lot of disaffected kids who now walk around in silly outfits and makeup thinking they are making some sort of statement....

 

my girlfriend wears outfits and make up everyday ! I *knew* there was somethin wrong w her ! damn ! :p

 

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Originally posted by txa1265

It is interesting how times revises views on some of these 'big hype' things - I liken Spiderman (#1) to UT2k3. Both were hyped, and when they came out everyone was saying 'r0x0r ... best ever' ... but now with a bit of perspective, everyone says 'we *knew* UT2k3 was flawed ... we *knew* Spidey1 was mediocre'. Yeah, right.

 

Mike

 

Kinda like Star Wars, huh?

 

Anyways, I liked the original Spiderman. I can't say I found it to be mediocre at all. UT2k3, however, imho, did not "r0x0r" but instead suxord or however the hell it's said. Along with everything else UT.

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Originally posted by Mike Windu

"Why does everyone forget about the crow?"

 

 

I dunno, but I don't think the crow appeals to the masses my man... it looked odd and depressing and something I dont ever plan to see.

Yeah, probably not something for the masses...

 

You should watch the original, it is pretty cool. Unfortunately it has become an obsesion for a whole lot of disaffected kids who now walk around in silly outfits and makeup thinking they are making some sort of statement. If you ignore all that then it is a cool film though. In order:

I hope you don't mean that The Crow started the goth scenes, for in that case it's utter bs.. ;)

 

Lol, all the true goth bands started up in the late 70s- early 80s :p

 

Oh, and i picked up The Crow 3: Salvation (VERY cheap, mind you), and it's some of the worst crap I've ever seen :lol:

 

Why I hate The Crow. And dumbass wannabe goth people.

*coughposerscough* ;)

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ahem

 

*yanks thread back on topic with giant thread fixing wrench*

 

Just saw Spider Man 2. One word: Awsome.

 

The acting was great, story was perfect and the effects were breathtaking. Had way more depth and action than the first one and a bit of humor thrown in for good measure. Tastefull humor, mind you.

 

Alfred Molina made the perfect Dock Ock and fixed the problems of Spidey villains that Willem Dafoe caused with his ridiculous over acting.

 

All in all, this one just felt more polished and more serious. When you see the Transformation into Dock Ock, it is a truly creepy and disconcerting scene, and the duels between him and Spidey are just spectacular. I mean, where in the first one, the fights were all flying and slamming, these are dirtier. They are kicking and punching and grappling, and throwing. They plunge toward the ground only to land somewhere and continue. All of it was just mesmerizing.

 

And the famous Train sequence from the commercials is absolutely fantastic. One of the best sets of the movie.

 

Just go see it and you'll see what I'm talking about.

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Originally posted by Chase Windu

does it have the same insanity effect like it did on his father?

 

 

Harry is already insane, finding out that Peter Parker actually is Spider-Man is what drove him over the edge. That's why his father was talking to him in the mirror, he's a nut-job

 

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My wife heard some of the soundtrack yesterday and said it was really good.

 

I also read on CNN that there was an arrest made of a kid with a videocam ... trying to make a recording to 'share' with his 'friends'. Arresting him for something that obviously has no impact on the mega-greedy monolithic corporations with non-people employed is rediculous, and I'm sure Michael Moore will have something to say about it ...

 

Mike

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Soundtrack is perfectly meshed with the movie. Gave me goosebumps at points. Though there is one part where they throw in a certain annoying song that makes you wonder if they are for real, then you realize that they aren't. They are just being jackasses. :D:p

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I saw it Thursday night and its awesome. I have played the PC Game and think its ok but too easy. But I was looking around Activision's site for spiderman 2 and they still have a countdown going to this coming Tuesday. Maybe the PC Gamers will get a Teen version. I feel really left out because all the other stuff and villians that gets left out from the console version.

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Gonna drag my girl to see it on Monday...Yes literaly drag her :rolleyes:

 

As for it being the "BEST" superhero movie of our time, remains to be seen. But the fact is what you grew up with, or prefere.

 

Now I didn't exactly grow up in the hay-day of comic book heros...but my father showed me the light to many of them.

 

And it just makes feel good inside seeing these classic characters on the big screen.

 

So It is a good time for guys such as myself ;)

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  • 1 month later...

been on holiday in france, so i only got to see this last night. I think the comment i heard a gril say to her boyfriend as they left summed it up best: "Well, that was corny and long...".

 

I have to wonder if i saw the same film as all the reviewers, cos i was SOOO looking foreward to this. The first one was good the first time (mainly because of it's obvious potential) but on repeated viewings the cornyness really got annoying. I was hoing this one would be so much better... but it was pretty much the same film again... or even a bit worse.

 

The following review may contain mild spoilers, if anyone hasn't already seen it, but nothing much that wasn't given away in the trailers.

 

Pros:

 

Some of the terrible cgi from the first one had been improved.

The odd bit of alfred molina.

Lots of hints at things that might be interesting.

Funny in places

Set up for 3rd film

Bruce Campbell :D

 

Cons:

 

Wasted alfred molina - i had heard that he had some form of decent into evil or something, but it was just stupid. THe "inhibitor chip that is going to break" was a daft idea. THey set up all this stuff with the college lecturer, the wife etc... that i thought was leading to something. Instead he just kind of went "i should kill myself, nah, oh i know, i'll build something cool and rob everyone" and turned evil in a minute. THen at the end he just turned back. huh?

I thought he might try to kill himself but the arms wouldn't let him. OR fight their actions, or have a slow decent that parralleled spidy quitting. nope.

 

Spidey loses powers: Why? What? THis smacked of a very unsubtle plot device that made no sense and wasn't needed. The whole relearning powers bit was just like the first film, and not needed and only there for comedy falling value.

 

Spidey quits: This plot seemed interesting at the start... but he wasn't any better off when he did quit, it only lasted a few minutes anyway. He still had no money. His aunt was still getting evicted. It'd have made more sense if he had been tempted to take some of the money from the bank to help his aunt, or to do some of the stuff JJ was accusing him off.

 

Girl Next door: Another pointless subplot that didn't go anywhere... i was acutally hoping that when they had that cheesy "MJ runs accross town in a wedding dress bit" it would either toun out to all be peter's dream, or the girl would be naked in the bathrooom or something.

 

Corny "spidey saves train, they save him" scene:

This was almost as vomit makingly cheesy as the "no one messes with people in our town" bit on the bridge at the end of the first one. There are loads of ways to use webs to stop that train. Why has sam rami suddenly become so corny and tried to be so patriotically american? That cheesy scene in the frst one was acceptable, what with the whole 9/11 mood in the country, but what was the excuse for this one? It was like a joke. Or a scene from oprah. You expected them all to stand up and applaud. :rolleyes:

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I didn't hate it, even if it sounds like i did, i thought it was about the same as the last one at 6 or 7 out of 10. Not as clever or dark as the x-men or early batman films but not bad. I just don't get why everyone thought it was so great.

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Nieve, Not a True Believer, and lack of the use of a spoiler tag.... wow thats a Hat Trick!!!!

 

Just about every event that has happened in both of those movies are through a spread of about 30 issues.... and are 80 percent accurate... gf Ebert...:)

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Originally posted by Nalukai

Nieve,

:confused: in what way? When i see a film that gets great reviews i expect a film with great action scenes, great pacing, great ploting and that makes sense.... is that naive?

 

Not a True Believer,

:confused: Ahem... it is a comic/movie. How can you be a "true believer". All you can do is watch/read and either enjoy or not.

 

and lack of the use of a spoiler tag...

I thought about it, but (a) I'd have had to have put the whole post in a spoiler tag (b) i had to dig out an old thread because it has been out for ages © therefore pretty much everyone who wants to see it has already seen it (d) my post doesn't give away any critical plot points that weren't already given away by the trailer. Ive added a note at the top though.

 

Just about every event that has happened in both of those movies are through a spread of about 30 issues.... and are 80 percent accurate... gf Ebert...:)

"gf Ebert" ????

 

That would explain why they started about 20 sub plots, but didn't finish any of them to satisfaction... if they were trying to cram all those issues into one film. You almost wish they would have left a few out if they weren't going to have time to do anything with them.

Both spidey films seem to be trying for something really good, something more than your average "dumb comic movie". Which makes me want to like them more than they really deserve. They just always seem to fall short of achieving anything special.

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Originally posted by toms

Corny "spidey saves train, they save him" scene:

This was almost as vomit makingly cheesy as the "no one messes with people in our town" bit on the bridge at the end of the first one. <snip> Why has sam rami suddenly become so corny and tried to be so patriotically american?

toms, your strong anti-American bias is revealed ;):D

 

If you watch those scenes objectively, what you see is the think that the green goblin said in #1 playing out - they are cheering you one second, reviling you the next. He just happens to be a NYC based hero ...

 

As for the rest, I agree with most of it. We rented #1 a couple of weeks ago, just after having seen #2 at the drive-in. They were enjoyable and entertaining ... but don't think too much ...

 

Mike

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Originally posted by toms

:confused: Ahem... it is a comic/movie. How can you be a "true believer". All you can do is watch/read and either enjoy or not.

 

True belever is a term coined by Stan Lee waaay back in the day to describe fans of Marvel Comics. I don't think it's meant to be taken litterally.

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