IG-64 Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 I was watching Bill O'Reilly and there was a story about a man who got only 2 months (60 days) in jail for raping his 12 year old adopted cousin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 he prob wont make it out alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegis Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 it's a big "sin",but 2 months is a lot. It's just that you compare it to 20 years etc, and thats horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reborn Outcast Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Originally posted by Alegis Gensan it's a big "sin",but 2 months is a lot. It's just that you compare it to 20 years etc, and thats horrible. So you're saying that he deserved what he got and no more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 all i can saw is, i'da givin' him at least 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted July 25, 2004 Author Share Posted July 25, 2004 Originally posted by Alegis Gensan it's a big "sin",but 2 months is a lot. It's just that you compare it to 20 years etc, and thats horrible. A man who relieves his pervertion on an innocent 12 year old and is out before the holiday season. That is injustice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt-Man Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 yeah but what is justice? define justice how can we judge how horrible something is, in the ned we all come down and fall short of the glory of god so we are equally bad, you can't say you've never sinned, becuase that isn't true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiroki Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 *shrugs* After he gets it from his 6'8 room mate Bernard, he won't be raping anyone. Two months is plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legameboy Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Pity. Man rapes poor little kid, and is back on the streets in less than a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 He'll be just fine. Most people convicted of sex crimes are put in PC, or "protective custody" so no harm comes to them. Maybe someone should rape the judge involved in that particular case, and see if he or she has stiffer (no pun intended) penalties in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Originally posted by CapNColostomy He'll be just fine. Most people convicted of sex crimes are put in PC, or "protective custody" so no harm comes to them. Maybe someone should rape the judge involved in that particular case, and see if he or she has stiffer (no pun intended) penalties in the future. yeah, I thought had happenned, otherwise thered be 1000s of dead rapists and paedos being dragged out of jails every year... (although this probably does happen to some extent) 2 months, sheez.....what was the freakin judge on....prolly the same thing Judge Ito was on when he was deliberating the OJ case..... mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 that is such an unlikelyly (?) low sentance that you have to wonder if there are some other factors we don't know about. (not having seen the story). There was a case in the paper in london a week or so ago where a guy had (in the past) got months for some form of child abuse. Years later he was on a bus with his hand in his trousers (pants) and a mother who was on the bus with her kids complained... and he got life! Weird, incomprehensible justice system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reborn Outcast Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by RoxStar Oh quit griping. You weren't at the trial, I'll assume. (correct me if I'm wrong). But just because hes found guilty doesn't mean that he automatically goes away for a crtain amount of time. That is why the United States's legal system has a Jury and a Judge. But I wasn't there so I wouldn't know either. Don't flame me. So if someone raped your 12 year old kid (assuming you had one ) you would be satisfied with a 2 month sentence? 2 months isn't any time at all for a convicted rapist to change, especially in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoxStar Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I never said he didn't deserve more. I'm just saying that people are complaining when they don't even understand the details of the trial. But to be on the safe side. I'll delte my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by Reborn Outcast So if someone raped your 12 year old kid (assuming you had one ) you would be satisfied with a 2 month sentence? 2 months isn't any time at all for a convicted rapist to change, especially in prison. If you are looking at changing them (not punishment, revenge or prevention) then prison is pretty pointless to begin with. A 2 month sentance is no different to a 20 year one as far as changing them goes. I don't know the details of the case, or the legal system in the area, but most legal systems don't just chuck people out after their time has finished, they have to convince the parol board, be monitored, etc.. It MAY (and only may) be the case that the judge wanted to send him for psychiatric care or to a hospital or something, but had to give a minimum 2 month term first. An indefinate term in a hospital would probably be more useful for "curing" him than any length of time in prison. Or it may just have been a weird judge. Can't tell without more details... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reborn Outcast Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by toms If you are looking at changing them (not punishment, revenge or prevention) then prison is pretty pointless to begin with. A 2 month sentance is no different to a 20 year one as far as changing them goes. I don't know the details of the case, or the legal system in the area, but most legal systems don't just chuck people out after their time has finished, they have to convince the parol board, be monitored, etc.. It MAY (and only may) be the case that the judge wanted to send him for psychiatric care or to a hospital or something, but had to give a minimum 2 month term first. An indefinate term in a hospital would probably be more useful for "curing" him than any length of time in prison. Or it may just have been a weird judge. Can't tell without more details... Good point, but it's kind of like the Jayson Williams trile where he didn't even get charged for murder, only with 5 minor charges that might not even land him in prison, only on probation. And most everyone (besides the jury obviously) felt that he murdered the man, yet he didn't get charged for it... Strange world we live in sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 It is said that sexual criminals seldom if ever reform, so as toms says the time doesn't matter from a 'rehabilitation' standpoint. And wasn't that the point of incarceration over execution? To be 'civilized' and 'fix' the criminal so they can re-enter society? As opposed to the child. Who is f*cked up for life. That is a real shame. And please don't start about 'consentual' sex between a 12 year old and someone over 18. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Going to jail for murder: No worries Going to jail for armed robbery: No worries Going to jail for assault: No worries Going to jail for child rape: Shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank shank Honor among the damned, I suppose. Expand your Imagi-Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted July 27, 2004 Author Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by txa1265 As opposed to the child. Who is f*cked up for life. Yeah, they said the kid/pre-teen is scarred for life :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codja X Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 It looks like crime does pay after all. The system is now completely biased towards the criminal rather than the victim. There was a local story by me recently about a drunken joyrider knocking over and killing a kid. Not even a single year in prison was sentenced to him. It's a f*cking disgrace. Hopefully the guy you mentioned won't make it out of prison alive. If I was that girl's father i'd be waiting outside that prison on his release date and administer the appropriate punishment. The irony is that i'd get sentenced for x amount of years just to see justice done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 i should hope so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
•-BLaCKouT-• Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Originally posted by Curt-Man yeah but what is justice? define justice how can we judge how horrible something is, in the ned we all come down and fall short of the glory of god so we are equally bad, you can't say you've never sinned, becuase that isn't true I sincerely hope that you were either: a) drunk b) sarcastic c) just trolling for a reaction without actually thinking about what you'd said. No, I'm not perfect. Far from it. Sure I've sinned. Hell, I probably enjoyed some of it. But I've never raped a 12yr old. Or anyone for that matter. I have, however, seen the emotional damage that a rape can do to someone. You can never get over that. It changes your life forever. It alters your levels of trust and pre-conceived ideas like nothing else. And that's to a 17yr old. Try to imagine what it's going to do to a 12yr old. Sure I don't know the ins and outs of the case. I don't know the guy in question either. He could be a great guy other than this case. But I don't care if he's two steps away from a cure for cancer, he made his choice and now he has to live with the consequences of that choice. Just like the rest of us. Two months in prison. Whoop-de-whoo Basil, people get more than that for fraud. My only hope is that during those two months, he learns the meaning of the word violation. B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MennoniteHobbit Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 I wish that guy got at LEAST 2 years. Too bad not more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR-0927 Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 *Makes speech.* I hope he dies a painfully, long death, with tons of torture to top it off. May he burn, damn rapist. *Ends speech.* *Loud clapping and approval.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeleneRayne Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 He deserves the worst punishment possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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