MrWally Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 I want to see Harry take up the green goblin However if they do that, I don't want to see a repeat of spiderman 1's green goblin, they would have to work to make it good.
lukeskywalker1 Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Yeah, spiderman 2 left you hanging with Harry. Its strange, he finds that costume and all green goblin stuff, and then is seen shortly after at a wedding, looking like nothing ever happend... :-\
Mike Windu Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 The Goblin takes time to break people down psychologically. It's part of his character.
El Sitherino Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Eddie Brock was a skinny **** before he became Venom though, therefore Topher is a great cast. And if you guys have seen him lately, he's bulking up quite a bit.
Bob Lion54 Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 I would think most of the Venom scenes would be CGI anyways. Practical effects can only go so far. Anyone seen Mr. Hyde in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? I have to admit, I like practial effects whenever possible, but you can just tell its a guy in a rubber suit. GC still looks computer generated, but most of the time it just looks better. (Yoda from the Prequels v. Yoda from the OT, for example) If they did try to do Venom as a practical effect, they would probably use a stuntman anyway. You also have to think about Venoms face. I don't see that being done without CG.
Crow_Nest Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Hmmm.... The comic books might say something about this new villian. Always has to be some ordinary guy who turned bad because of something/experiment?
toms Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Yeah, they need some sort of safety suits or something when they are doing their scientific experiments alright... After a quick bit of research its interestng that both these potential villains seem to have tried to be good for at least part of their existance... they could do something interesting with that bit of plot. I'd also assume that Venom will be all CGI, spidey is pretty much all CGi anyway. I thought harry became hobgobiln, not green goblin?
Captain Wilson Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Oh for christ sake... The Rock should be playing Venom. He has the muscle needed for the part. What does this fragile whimp have that The Rock doesn't? Except for the blonde, flat hair that's needed for the part... Eddie brock starts out as a scrawny git. He pumped up so much cause of his hate of ol' spidey. And with the ammount of CGI for SM (as a charcter) alone, i reckon Venom is going to be min 90% CGI. but i faith they can do it well
El Sitherino Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Eddie brock starts out as a scrawny git. He pumped up so much cause of his hate of ol' spidey. Exactly. Anyway, they'll probably have Topher in the hero suit in your interactive shots, and your action shots they'll do CGI. Just like they do with Tobey as spiderman.
jon_hill987 Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 I guess that'd be nice... Heh... ... You have to burn him... So he'll turn into glass man... Then you can just shoot him. Voilá! Instant shattered sand man! Well, i guess it'll be nice. Anyone remember the smallville ep where there was a kid who could do the sand thing? Clark heated him up with his laser vision.
MrWally Posted November 8, 2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Anyone have any idea how many spider-man movies there are going to be? They obviously aren't going to do a trilogy, as a friend of mine claimed. And why are people still argueing about The Rock playing Venom? They already announced Topher Grace has the part.
Lightsaberboy Posted November 8, 2005 Author Posted November 8, 2005 i think the main cast such as tobey has stated that they only want to do up to 3 movies. but who knows how many movies there will actually be...
El Sitherino Posted November 8, 2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Well recently he said he'd like to do more, Raimi only had them sign on for 3 as that's the only amount he wanted to do at first. The way things are going, they're likely to make more with Raimi still on board with Tobey. Dunst however didn't even want to do after the first one but was contractually obligated to do the second and third.
acdcfanbill Posted November 8, 2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Dunst is the worst thing about the series imho, and while i normally detest actor changes of main characters in movie series, i could live with them changing out her.
lukeskywalker1 Posted November 8, 2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Yeah... I don't like her. And what was up with her hair in the 2nd movie? It wasn't red... like in the first one, it was mixed. Umm... I think the green goblin or venom kills MJ anyways, so this may be it for her. Then they can bring in one of Peter's other "loves" from the comics.
Mike Windu Posted November 8, 2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Am I the only one that doesn't mind her at all? I think she does a pretty good job. ._.
Hermie Posted November 8, 2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Yeah... I don't like her. And what was up with her hair in the 2nd movie? It wasn't red... like in the first one, it was mixed. She said in an interview that she was given more freedom in the second movie, and so she chose to have a different hair color.
Surfnshannon Posted November 8, 2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandman_%28Marvel_Comics%29 It explains Sandman and the ties to Venom. Pretty cool looking.
toms Posted November 8, 2005 Posted November 8, 2005 VENOM > ALL that is all u need to know unless CARNAGE is involved which wont be untill this sequel is out. thomas hayden = gud sandman = NUB dont matter they need the symbiotes to make the movie go where they need to go... and no way in hell they gonna pull that post-secret wars bs with armstrong coming down from space with the symbiote plus the nOObman ( i mean sandman)... so wtf/e......... it is lead to disaster just like every other sequel out on the market... less thinking more marketing is what drives the bull****......... and fanboys...
jon_hill987 Posted November 8, 2005 Posted November 8, 2005 I think the green goblin or venom kills MJ anyways Well it ain't going to be the green goblin, being dead in the films and all (he didn't come back in the second one did he? I havn't sen that yet). I heard they ar going to do 5 in all. but more likely it will be an ongoing thing with many diferent spidermans, like batman.
toms Posted November 9, 2005 Posted November 9, 2005 I heard they ar going to do 5 in all. but more likely it will be an ongoing thing with many diferent spidermans, like batman. And getting worse all the time, like batman, superman, etc.. They always seemed to be setting up for Harry to turn into some form of goblinoid super villain in the third one, but with SM and VNM in S3 it seems unlikely it will be in this film. Guess it might be the fourth. But its never a good idea to plan that far ahead in movies, as actors & directors leave, etc.. PS/ Anyone hear that they are probably releasing the Richard Donner Cut of Superman 2 on DVD next year? Hope it actually happens, unlike the supposed recut of Batman forever...
lukeskywalker1 Posted November 10, 2005 Posted November 10, 2005 And getting worse all the time, like batman, superman, etc.. Spiderman 2 was better than the first one in my opinion. She said in an interview that she was given more freedom in the second movie, and so she chose to have a different hair color. Big mistake, MJ was always known as the red head... not the carrot top. Thats almost as bad as changing the blue on spidey to black or something... its just not right. They always seemed to be setting up for Harry to turn into some form of goblinoid super villain in the third one, but with SM and VNM in S3 it seems unlikely it will be in this film. Guess it might be the fourth. Well the fans have wanted Venom straight from the get go, Spiderman 1. Then in Spidey 2 they wanted him again, and now they finally get him.
Jeff Posted November 10, 2005 Posted November 10, 2005 Big mistake, MJ was always known as the red head... not the carrot top. Thats almost as bad as changing the blue on spidey to black or something... its just not right. I didn't notice it that much. I mean I could tell it was different, but it wasn't such a big deal that every time I saw her I thought, "Her hair is different!" But that's just me
El Sitherino Posted November 10, 2005 Posted November 10, 2005 Spiderman does have a black costume, when he joins with Venom.
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