Darth_Balls Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 In KoTOR 1, Candourous(sp?) tells you about a huge asteroid or something of another that they were shooting at I believe. He talks about something that came out of the asteroid and sped away really fast. Does anyone know what i'm talking about? And can anyone tell me what it was or how it pertained to KoTOR? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkonium Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 It has no bearing on the story, and it is just an NJO tie-in, as that "asteroid" is actually a Yuuzhan Vong coralskipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 There is no proof that it's a 'Yuuzhan Vong coralskipper'. There is no evidence that it was a ship at all. I personally hate this theory, as I think that the Yuuzhan Vong are the most retarded thing to ever be introduced into the Star Wars universe, and are not worthy of canonization. I always imagined it as a space dwelling life form, similar to the one in the TNG episode... well, I forget the episode.... if I can find it, I'll explain better. However, there is no way of knowing what it was, or even if Canderous was doing anything but talking out his... well, let's just say that he might have made it up to impress Revan. Just a thought. A lame one, but a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkonium Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 First of all, Revan's a guy, and guys don't go out of their way to impress other guys. And I personally like the theory of it being a Yuuzhan Vong ship, as the Yuuzhan Vong were a far greater threat to the Republic than the Empire ever was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 When I said he might have told the story to impress Revan, I didn't mean... like that. I meant to respect him more, to think of him as a great warrior - Mandalorians need to feel honourable. The Yuuzhan Vong are retarded, no matter how 'dangerous' they were. They're just a bunch of masochistic idiots. BTW, the Empire was never a threat to the Republic - the Empire was the Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkonium Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 When I said he might have told the story to impress Revan, I didn't mean... like that. I meant to respect him more, to think of him as a great warrior - Mandalorians need to feel honourable. The Yuuzhan Vong are retarded, no matter how 'dangerous' they were. They're just a bunch of masochistic idiots. BTW, the Empire was never a threat to the Republic - the Empire was the Republic. The Empire was the Old Republic and a threat to the New Republic. And I think it was confirmed by Bioware or something to be a Yuuzhan Vong coralskipper, and they'd have more final say. Plus, your dislike of them won't make them go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 ...I think it was confirmed by Bioware or something to be a Yuuzhan Vong coralskipper... Prove it, please. I doubt that. Highly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Moving to proper forum... And Doc, you need to calm down. You don't like the Vong. We get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus Q'ol Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 People usually hate or fear what they don't understand. But, since the Vong are written about in Lucas sanctioned books that are published for the whole galaxy to read, then their existence, however sad, still remains. ...regardless of your feelings. There is no evidence, however, that the phenomenon Canderous spoke of was a Vong Coralskipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjpb3 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 First of all, Revan's a guy, and guys don't go out of their way to impress other guys. Excuse me, but Revan can be either a guy OR a girl. Just wanted to point that out. Thanks and continue with your discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zadi Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Excuse me, but Revan can be either a guy OR a girl. Just wanted to point that out. Thanks and continue with your discussion. Agreed. Even the packaging for the game shows BOTH genders for Revan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Revan is canonically a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjpb3 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Revan is canonically a man. I won't debate with you about this because I would get banned, and I like visiting LF too much to get banned over this, but I still say, with vehemence, Revan can be male or female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkonium Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 I won't debate with you about this because I would get banned, and I like visiting LF too much to get banned over this, but I still say, with vehemence, Revan can be male or female. I know from experience what getting banned from a forum you like is like, That happened to me, I was vengeful for months(didn't actually take my revenge), but then I realised how n00bish the place really was. But still since the line isn't gender-restricted, Canderous could not have made it up to impress Revan, at least not sexually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 There is no evidence' date=' however, that the [i']phenomenon[/i] Canderous spoke of was a Vong Coralskipper. Quoted for emphasis! Revan is canonically a man. This only applies for other EU authors to use as a unified guideline when referring to this storyline, in the actual games story Revan is either gender, there is no cannon Revan or the Exile as far as the game is concerned. I won't debate with you about this because I would get banned, and I like visiting LF too much to get banned over this, but I still say, with vehemence, Revan can be male or female. No one gets banned for having a discussion... as long as its civil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjpb3 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 No one gets banned for having a discussion... as long as its civil. Hee hee, I would I kind of get worked up when someone boldly states that Revan is male, no ifs ands or buts, when it is clearly false, as per what you stated above. ^ I don't like someone telling me that no matter what I did, or how I played my game that Revan is male whether I like it or not. Revan is who you want her (or him) to be. Period. (Ok, I'll shut up now before I go stepping in something I don't want to ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkonium Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 For the record do not simply call the Yuuzhan Vong just Vong. Their name translates to "Children of Yun-Yuuzhan" and "Vong" translates to "Children" or "Child", depending on whether the reference is singular or plural. And the thing Canderous saw fits the description of a Coralskipper anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 For the record do not simply call the Yuuzhan Vong just Vong. Their name translates to "Children of Yun-Yuuzhan" and "Vong" translates to "Children" or "Child", depending on whether the reference is singular or plural. Alkonium, you also need to calm down too... you like the Yuuzhan Vong we get it. People can call them whatever they want. The sad fact is that while you may like them, please realise that others don't, won't, and never will like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz1978 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 First of all, Revan's a guy, and guys don't go out of their way to impress other guys. Am I missing something? Is "impress" supposed to contain any sexual undertone? And please... guys do pretty much everything to impress other guys... no sense in denying it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Really I thought it was a macho thing. Showing who's better. Then again I never will understand guys. Still I'm content with the fact that it was a ship hidden in the asteroid Canderous blasted. I could care less besides I haven't read all of EU so I really don't care. It was a minor detail that in my seriously underdeveloped and flawed opinion is not at all important. So what if it was a Vong whatever. Suan le (Let it be) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 First of all, Revan's a guy, Canon or no, I've cheerfully played Revan as a female many times. and guys don't go out of their way to impress other guys. How many guys show off their new cool car to their other guy friends to impress them? And I personally like the theory of it being a Yuuzhan Vong ship, as the Yuuzhan Vong were a far greater threat to the Republic than the Empire ever was? It's either a coralskipper or some other fascinating phenomenon. The game doesn't go into further detail about it that I know of, though it was an interesting story. Since it's not specified either way, we all can leave it to our own imaginations and enjoy it for what it is when playing our own individual games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 As I consider the NJO books so ridiculous that they shouldn't even be counted in the EU, I just like to pretend that Canderous' asteroid was just some mysterious ship from the Unknown Regions that we'll never known anything more about. As for the issue if Revan's male or female, s/he's whatever gender the player wants him/her to be, and the canon version doesn't count for anything. Who needs Lucasfilm to tell us what gender and alignment Revan is? I consider Revan a DS male, which goes against the canonical version, and that's just fine with me. If Bioware had intended for Revan to be a LS male, then they wouldn't have included the option to gain Dark Side points or to choose Revan's gender at the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaelastraz Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I think Bioware didnt care whether Revan is male, female DS or LS. They let us choose that, because that is what almost every recent RPG allows you to do. They let us choose it so female players can identify themselves better with the PC. They let us choose it to create a better game and sell more copies. While i doubt that Canderous made up the whole story about the asteroid to impress Revan, i dont think that this little story is important. I see Canderous stories just like HK's. And Hk killed senators, hundreds of other people from a company and so on... I think these stories where put into the game to add some interesting background information, you know, just to improve the atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 As for the issue if Revan's male or female, s/he's whatever gender the player wants him/her to be, and the canon version doesn't count for anything. Who needs Lucasfilm to tell us what gender and alignment Revan is? I consider Revan a DS male, which goes against the canonical version, and that's just fine with me. If Bioware had intended for Revan to be a LS male, then they wouldn't have included the option to gain Dark Side points or to choose Revan's gender at the start. Quoted for emphasis! Need I say more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PazaakPrincess Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I always think the story actually has something to do with the Star Forge, it's more like a hint of things to come. I believe in the Canon of the games on their own beyond the rest of star wars, to me they are a whole seperate 'verse and so books/films have no real bearing anymore. Don't get me wrong I still love star wars and ofcourse there probably wouldn't be a Kotor without it but I like to treat it as a completely different entity so the only truth comes from the game. Revan kicks ascii as female anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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