Acrylic Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 In a world where games are now $60, and we're still getting paid the same, Nintendo comes to the rescue to provide $50 Revolution games! http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/29/nintendos-revolution-games-will-be-cheap-er-vows-iwata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Excellent! Another reason why the NRV will be superior to the other next-gens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Yes, but this is also ONLY garunteed to be for first party games. If the others do it too, then that would pwn, but if not, it would be no different than first party 360 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Yeah this isn't really big news seeing as Nintendo has always committed itself to this sorta thing but it won't really change things for third party games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abespam Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 i read the original article link and the part that interested me was the following: The Revolution has 512 MB of flash memory, allowing for some initial storage space. The system also has a slot for SD memory cards, which are widely used in digital cameras and can hold a greater amount of data. Most importantly, Iwata mentioned, were the USB ports that are built into the Revolution "so practically any storage method can be used". could i possibly plug in my usb external hard-drive and use that for saving games and everything else the revolution does? that would seriously own. Just out of curiousity when is the predicted arrival date? i mean i know they said they wanted it out before or atleast the same time as the ps3... but by nov??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Iwata-san tells us that it would be nice to have the NRV released by November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 The whole rent and download scheme will give Nintendo A definite advantage over the other consoles as long as it works as good as it looks on paper. It will be interesting once all these consoles are released to see who wins the bloody war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 ESP cool now they are getting sega games into the act... though i hope they get third party publishers onboard too. Anyone know if it is just old 32bit sega games or if there might be the possibility of downloading some dreamcast games (guess they'd probably be too big for the memory though. ) Always thought i missed something with the dreamcast. The "any usb device" line has been used before.. but it would be interesting to see if that might mean they could offer things like music downloads for those with mp3 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 That's a really good thought there toms. I would go buy some 1gb sd sticks for certain dreamcast games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 After a bit of research it turns out most DC games are under 500mb... I assume the 512Mb flash drive is for storgae, in addition to standard system memory? Might just work, but they'd definately need to release larger flash drives/or be able to use external USB drives for people to be able to use the downloads to their full potential. (1 DC game would mena you'd need to delete almost everything else!) It takes SD cards as well right? You can pick up 1gb SD cards for £20 these days - and i've got a few 256mb and 512mb ones lying around from my old mp3 player and my camera anyway... Still, DC games might be more likely to appear on the 360 live arcade - assuming N haven't engineered an exclusive agreement with sega. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manoman81 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Well now that it is official about what USB ports should be able to do, there's a possibility of an easy link up to a PC. Also, I don't know where he found it, but my boss came across an article for a 64 gig thumb drive...for $5000. Thought I would just throw it out there. This news really makes me want to actually buy a console this coming November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Interesting article. Sorry if it has already been posted... Revolution will be "low tech" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rccar328 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 From what I've heard about Revolution, it won't matter that it doesn't have the horsepower of other systems (which, I think, is the point). Personally, I like the affordability & the idea of being able to download games from past systems. If I get a Revolution, I don't know that I'd buy any games at all, even if they are $10 cheaper - it'd be enough for me to get a bunch of the games from the other Nintendo systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Always thought i missed something with the dreamcast. So did I, I never played one but later on I heard it actually had a few good games. But yeah, I heard the Rev will be around Xbox 1 power. But remember guys, RE4 look amazing so we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclaimer Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 Excellent! Another reason why the NRV will be superior to the other next-gens Um...if you like nun chucks for controllers... The Nun-Chucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 I'm very well aware of the controllers. I, personally, think it's a great idea, and if you don't, you can put the controller into a shell that is like a controller you're used to. And, you can turn the controller sideways to use it as an old SNES controller for the retro games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 But yeah, I heard the Rev will be around Xbox 1 power. The GameCube was as powerful as the Xbox, true not in terms of numbers, but the GCNs hardware was put together well enough that its efficiency rating allowed it to stand toe-to-toe with the Xbox. RE4 is a great looking game, but it wasn't the only one. A lot of the games on the GCN are very good graphically even if not everyone agrees with the artstyle. The biggest difference you will see with NRV games and PS3 and 360 games is that there will not be any ultra-fine detail that PS3 and 360 games will have. What I mean is that when you zoom into a characters clothing you're not gonna see the individual stitches, etc that you experience with PS3 and 360 games. All you will see with the NRV is the minimum in terms of graphics, but even if it's twice as pretty as what you get with Resident Evil 4 that's still damn good. And with the unique form of gameplay it'll still be satisfying. To some, it will be a major downside, but in reality it has nothing to do with how the game is actually played. The latest trend is to treat videogames like movies, but when you do you end up forgetting that it's meant to be played, not watched. I'm not saying presentation isn't important, just saying that in terms of videogames, it plays a secondary role rather than the primary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 yeah and when all consoles are out they'll all be 49.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 It will be really interesting to see how powerful the RevN really is, as i've heard rumours all over the shop. I gotta admit that i think N have a point about the graphics... i'm sure the RevN will be more powerfull than the xbox1... but considering the huge leap in power/cost between ps2/xbox1 and ps3/xbox360 the graphics simply haven't leapt by as much in perceptional terms. EG: xbox360 = xbox + 100% xbox360 graphics = xbox graphics + 25% so if they can pull off RevN = GCN + 50% RevN graphics = GCN graphics + 13% then they should do well woth all except the hardcore graphics fanboys who spend fortunes on the latest graphics cards. imho. (all figures plucked from the air). The dreamcast always confused me... it had some great games, and wasn't THAT underpowered compared to the current generation (which i guess it was technically a part of). Soul calibur on DC doesn't look that much worse than SC2 or PS2 games in general. Everyone who had one raved about it, and several of the top 10 games on gamerankings are on the DC. Not quite sure how sega messed it up so bad, can't help but feel that if they had had the financial backing to keep supporting it and maybe give it a booster then it would have done well. Not that i know anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWally Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 What nintendo obviously seems to be doing is putting emphasis not on graphics, but rather on unique gameplay, and isn't that what everyone really wants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 The GameCube was as powerful as the Xbox, true not in terms of numbers, but the GCNs hardware was put together well enough that its efficiency rating allowed it to stand toe-to-toe with the Xbox. RE4 is a great looking game, but it wasn't the only one. A lot of the games on the GCN are very good graphically even if not everyone agrees with the artstyle. The biggest difference you will see with NRV games and PS3 and 360 games is that there will not be any ultra-fine detail that PS3 and 360 games will have. What I mean is that when you zoom into a characters clothing you're not gonna see the individual stitches, etc that you experience with PS3 and 360 games. All you will see with the NRV is the minimum in terms of graphics, but even if it's twice as pretty as what you get with Resident Evil 4 that's still damn good. And with the unique form of gameplay it'll still be satisfying. To some, it will be a major downside, but in reality it has nothing to do with how the game is actually played. The latest trend is to treat videogames like movies, but when you do you end up forgetting that it's meant to be played, not watched. I'm not saying presentation isn't important, just saying that in terms of videogames, it plays a secondary role rather than the primary. That's true, numbers aren't everything. Also remember the HDTV thing, Rev won't be HD capable so game makers won't have to sacrifice anything by having to make their games HD capable. And i'm not rich enough to get an HDTV so i'm not complaining. What nintendo obviously seems to be doing is putting emphasis not on graphics, but rather on unique gameplay, and isn't that what everyone really wants? Yes, but I am a big graphics fan, and good graphics are a very big selling point for me. And you can't ignore that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rccar328 Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 Yes, but I am a big graphics fan, and good graphics are a very big selling point for me. And you can't ignore that. I like good graphics, too, and I'd definitely expect the Revolution's graphics to be better than Gamecube's...but I'm not gonna pass up Revolution just because it's graphics aren't up to the same level as XBox360...especially if I can get it for a better price. And besides that, anything has better graphics than the SNES that I currently have (never got much into gaming systems beyond the PC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 I like good graphics, too, and I'd definitely expect the Revolution's graphics to be better than Gamecube's...but I'm not gonna pass up Revolution just because it's graphics aren't up to the same level as XBox360...especially if I can get it for a better price. Oh, definately, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't pass up rev either. I just didn't like the indication that graphics aren't all that important compared to gameplay. Because to me they are. In fact I think good graphics actually contribute to good gameplay in a big way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 It's not a case of Nintendo saying graphics means nothing, it's a case of Nintendo saying graphics will always improve when you jump from one generation from the next no matter what happens. They're trying to shift focus from just improving graphics to improving and experimenting with the other elements of videogames. And I think some people confused graphics with artstyle, after all if you come up with a good artstyle for a game on a graphically inferior system that game will still look good won't it After all The Wind Waker had absolutely STUNNING graphics, yet it wasn't that issue that drove a lot of people away, it was the artstyle itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 Yeah, i'm not too much of a fan of cell shading, but I absolutely know what you mean by art style. If something is done greatly it deserves recognition. It doesn't matter if it looks "realistic" or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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