SpaceAlex Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Did anyone notice that the voice actor for the ending narration sounds exacly the same as the TV news reporter from Vampire: Bloodlines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Personally I think I'll just stop playing after the end battle and skip the ending narration entirely. I was thinking of simply cutting down the .dlg file for the ending narration for my next playthrough. This ending is probably the worst I've seen. I hate those you win but you loose endings And the evil ending is not an evil ending, it's a completely moronic ending...I don't see any reason why would my evil pc who has the power to destroy this abomination (edit: would) chose to become his thrall? Did anyone notice that the voice actor for the ending narration sounds exacly the same as the TV news reporter from Vampire: Bloodlines? Didn't noticed that. The only thing I noticed is that he sounded as if they asked forced the janitor in the building to do the narration...and he sounds extremely bored too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffe Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 I was thinking of simply cutting down the .dlg file for the ending narration for my next playthrough. This ending is probably the worst I've seen. That might be a good way to do it. If you stick the DLG file in the override folder it should replace the one in the module without altering the module file. Unless they've goofed up naming files uniquely again... I hate those you win but you loose endings And the evil ending is not an evil ending, it's a completely moronic ending...I don't see any reason why would my evil pc who has the power to destroy this abomination chose to become his thrall? At least evil-aligned players had the option to be idiots. Good aligned players were given no choice but to do the right thing. Did anyone notice that the voice actor for the ending narration sounds exacly the same as the TV news reporter from Vampire: Bloodlines? It does sound familiar now that you mention it. At least the voice somewhat fits for a bored news reporter having the midnight shift. Doesn't really fit at all for the narrator of an epic fantasy adventure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Spoiler: End game discussion below Personally I think I'll just stop playing after the end battle and skip the ending narration entirely. Is there any way to change the end video a bit, rearrange the sequence of images, and then change the writing/remove the voiceover? That way, we all get the ending we _really_ want.... In the images, you're seen running, then the explosion. Change that so you see the flash first and then the building collapse. You see the Kosh's energy start to explode and you run. If you take the voiceover out, you could change the writing in the collapse scene to something like 'you're running, but you a. escape in the nick of time or b.use the tome to teleport out. Then you can show the Crossroad keep and just say everyone's celebrating. You can remove the Breilana/Kana scenes (who cares about them at the end to be honest, they're minor characters). Daeghun can go patrol the Mere for any sign of return of evil, since that's very much in his nature. Bevil can get knighted if you have to have Bevil's story tied up, otherwise delete that scene also. I don't even need my party members' lives tied up--we can just be one happy party at the end of the story and leave major life decisions about 'what to do next' for another time--all you really need is the celebration, like at the end of Kotor. Maybe the scene with Nasher is just showing him defeating his bunch of enemies, and he then travels to the keep to make you an Earl/Countess or something like that. Having Daeghun patrol the Mere for more evil is a good enough hint of another adventure/expansion, and since Daeghun has been with you off and on thru the whole game, seeing him at the end makes sense. If it's an evil ending you're after, say you've tapped into the Weave, become the new KoSh, and you're going to go destroy Neverwinter and take over all of Faerun or something like that. Spoiler: End game discussion above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavlos Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Jae, go into the toolset and open up 3400_Merdelain.mod. The dialogue in question is 3430_ending. From there you can remove the voice over in the "node" tab of each dialogue node . It should be fairly simple from there to edit it as you wish and save the file into the .mod file (backup your old one, in case future patches have issues with edited module files). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Those are both problems for the moment though (half-broken toolset and auto-updater conflicts if messing with the campaign modules). Personally I think I'll just stop playing after the end battle and skip the ending narration entirely. I'm too much of a nitpicker to leave the game the way the devs made it. Creating backup copies of the original and my modified modules isn't that bad. And the evil ending is not an evil ending, it's a completely moronic ending...I don't see any reason why would my evil pc who has the power to destroy this abomination chose to become his thrall? Because your PC was enough of a moron to believe s/he was 'being pledged to a greater cause'. Yay, an eternity of undeath and servitude in a small patch of the Sword Coast. all you really need is the celebration, like at the end of Kotor. Maybe the scene with Nasher is just showing him defeating his bunch of enemies, and he then travels to the keep to make you an Earl/Countess or something like that. That shouldn't be too hard. You'd have to make a new area, write up the dialogue and make a few scripts for it. Making the PC a Lord would be more fitting IMO. It looks like the highest title the nobility have, and the PC probably has a similar status to an Earl or a Count already (being part of the Neverwinter Nine). If it's an evil ending you're after, say you've tapped into the Weave, become the new KoSh, and you're going to go destroy Neverwinter and take over all of Faerun or something like that. The Shadow Weave, actually. A standard-fare evil ending of a bunch of troops marching around with the PC sitting on a large throne should do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Because your PC was enough of a moron to believe s/he was 'being pledged to a greater cause'. Yay, an eternity of undeath and servitude in a small patch of the Sword Coast. Argh! My post was supposed to read "would chose" and not just "chose". Ok, I admit that I reloaded after the end and tried that option once just to see the final narration but I had to turn on god mode as even with Bishop's help, I got by butt kicked in seconds by my party as they all had an armor rating of 35+, Casavir and Khelgar being in the 40's, and they were equipped with resist magic and regeneration items and the best weapons I could find/make...the KoS was a child's play in comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Yeah, I forgot to properly equip Neeshka before that. I'm going to alter the equipment of certain other characters before the final battles in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 even with Bishop's help, I got by butt kicked in seconds by my party as they all had an armor rating of 35+, Casavir and Khelgar being in the 40's, and they were equipped with resist magic and regeneration items and the best weapons I could find/make...the KoS was a child's play in comparison The obvious benefits of being a wizard... Several empowered Ice Storms, and the battle was over in seconds. Yeah, I forgot to properly equip Neeshka before that. I'm going to alter the equipment of certain other characters before the final battles in the future. It actually won't make much of a difference if you equip them with rusty butter knives. If the equipment your companions have isn't worth much, the KoS will give them all shadow gear. (Which is actually pretty decent stuff - especially with how it reduces all weight by 80%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavlos Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 A hotfix has been released so that you can actually use helmets in the toolset again . *Does happy dance* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I can just imagine a paladin in a feathered hat.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffe Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Mod note: Now that there is a whole forum for other games there is no need to put everything related to NWN2 in one thread. Separate threads for each NWN2-related topic make it more easy to browse so I'll close this. Feel free to continue discussing this in new threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavlos Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Still, now that they're not making sequels to other people's games, Avellone might get back into the swing of things. Play MotB. It's well worth the cash. Hell, it's worth buying NWN2 just to be able to play MotB. Unfortunately, George Ziets (the creative lead) has left Obsidian now to spend more time with his family -- I thought only Tory MPs could do that over allegations about their sexuality. Edit: The only poor parts of MotB are the Academy (which is essentially one giant puzzle) and the fact that it isn't long enough. Come on... how can you not like a fallen angel who is of good alignment and sees morality only in black and white and is, as such, literally colour blind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Yeah, I might sometime later, but at the moment, I don't know where my copy of NWN2 is anyway, so it's a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantzen Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Is the mediocore game NWN2 ? I atleast thinks it good. Some part of the game is really bad, like Old Owl Well, but the rest i think it's good. Evrything after you have got Ammon is in my opinion very good, and the ending didnt bug me as much as many people seemed to have been by it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 ROCKS FALL EVERYONE DIES. And, yes, the kingdom is situated on a featureless plain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantzen Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 They never say evryones dies, that what you assumed happend. If you have a IQ over 10 you probaly figure out there would been a expansion that told you what happend, that was atleast the first thing i though Mod note: Let's leave the speculations about the intellectual capacity of other posters out of this thread, shall we? ~M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Okay, let me quote it directly. The dungeon begins to collapse. Your party makes a run for it, but you cannot escape. The walls tumble down around you. Nobody knows what become of you. You and your friends are never heard from again. That says rather clearly to me "Oh, we couldn't think of a decent ending, so we decided to just kill you." And, two things. One, when I finished the NWN2 campaign, Mask of the Betrayer hadn't yet been announced. And, two, the original Neverwinter Nights had extremely little to do, plotwise, with Shadows of Undrentide and only tied into Hordes of the Underdark near the very end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 split NWN2 discussion from Alpha protocol thread and merged here. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Hoon Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 @Corinthian, it's just a conspiracy to whip fanfic authors into a FRENZY!! They scream! They wail their misery! They writh in awful agony as plot bunnies compress their brains into a mush of tangled stories!! Ahem. Anyway, it's more or less meant to be a standalone game, no? But out of curiosity, does anyone know how much time passes between the first and second games? (enough time for Nasher to go completely bald, it seems:p) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Monance Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 And, two things. One, when I finished the NWN2 campaign, Mask of the Betrayer hadn't yet been announced. So you didn't play MOTB? I got NWN2 and Motb.. and I was massively disappointed by Nwn2 as well. I stopped playing it mid-game and went on to play motb.. And let me tell you, motb is far far better. In the original campaign, it took me at least 15 hours to get half way interested in the story, whereas in motb I was drawn into the story right at the beginning. Give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Actually, I should re-acquire Mask of the Betrayer within four hours. My brother currently has it and he's at College, but he's moving out sometime today, hopefully. I put myself through the campaign again for giggles just so I could get freshly ticked off when Shandra died and I had to team up with Ammon, the tat-faced scumbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpentine Cougar Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Have all the bugs mentioned in the reviews I've seen been fixed by patches yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 My last few playthroughs of MotB were entirely bug-free, so I'd venture so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Playing NWN1 is like taking valium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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