PoiuyWired Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Is Carth secretly Force Sensative? No I am not saying he is a jedi or he can do things with the Force, but I think maybe he is Force Sensative to a certain (weak) degree. Reason? Rakghouls. Well, as we know it now, the infection affects humans (that are non Force Sensative) only. And as we know it thru the game, Carth is immune to it. Well, Revan too but he is a Jedi, and Mission/bigZ are not humans. So Carth has been beating up them beasties without getting infected... that might be the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter426 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 I think he might be. Not because of the rakghoul thing, but for a few other reasons. There are a bunch of little things that just don't add up--his unusual intuition, for example. He can see Force ghosts. His son becomes a Dark Jedi (though it's possible Dusty got that from his mother). He's from Telos, which was founded by Jedi outcasts. Lots of little things. There's no proof either way, but I think it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Did I miss something about rakghouls? There's also something in K2 that might lend credence to FS Carth: Carth says to Bastila: "And after meeting the exile, I'm convinced that there are worse things to lose in the galaxy." Carth could feel the sense of loss in the Exile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan7 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Did I miss something about rakghouls? There's also something in K2 that might lend credence to FS Carth: Carth says to Bastila: "And after meeting the exile, I'm convinced that there are worse things to lose in the galaxy." Carth could feel the sense of loss in the Exile. Are you sure that's not a reference to him loosing his wife/(perhaps Dustil), than it is being FS)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Are you sure that's not a reference to him loosing his wife/(perhaps Dustil), than it is being FS)? Yeah, pretty sure it means what I said. He's saying that there are worse things to lose than those you love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter426 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Did I miss something about rakghouls? It was revealed in the first Vector arc that the disease has no affect on aliens or Force sensitives. Still, I don't think it means anything; Canderous never got the disease. Carth says to Bastila: "And after meeting the exile, I'm convinced that there are worse things to lose in the galaxy." Carth could feel the sense of loss in the Exile. Yeah, that was my impression as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 That line could mean anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 It was revealed in the first Vector arc that the disease has no affect on aliens or Force sensitives. Still, I don't think it means anything; Canderous never go the disease. That is the lamest thing I have ever heard, I can't remember who said it but I'll quote them, "Who writes the EU now, monkeys?" Since in game it's said repeatedly that anyone infected with the disease gets mutated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter426 Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 That line could mean anything. Eh...I suppose. Like I said, there's no real proof either way. That is the lamest thing I have ever heard, I can't remember who said it but I'll quote them, "Who writes the EU now, monkeys?" Since in game it's said repeatedly that anyone infected with the disease gets mutated. It's actually not as dumb as it sounds. Well, the disease not affecting Force sensitives isn't as dumb as it sounds. The rest is actually much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I wouldn't be surprised if Carth had some force sensativity. I mean he was a great pilot, and his son was a force sensative. I think that to some degree, Carth is force sensative. though it's possible Dusty got that from his mother. Well, to me it would be implied that he got this trait from his father. We don't know hardly anything about Carth's wife. However, I'm not disregarding that it could have been from his mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurges-Ahter Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I think it's at least plausible, for the reasons that Melly and JCarter listed. It also fits with the general KotOR theme (more-so in TSL). Is "sensitive" spelled differently in the UK or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Don* Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Canderous never got the disease. Thats cuz he's Mandalorian. Mandalorians evolved differently from humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter426 Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Nope, Mandies can get the plague too. In fact, every single person in Vector who gets the plague--save one--is a Mandalorian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Foley Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 You know, you can't forget that to some extent or another, everyone in the Star Wars galaxy is Force sensitive. I don't think Carth is any kind of special case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpentine Cougar Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Interesting points. Still, it doesn't really change anything, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blix Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 His intuition could be attributed to the force, but seems someone Han Solo-ish (i.e. "I've gotta bad feeling about this..."). Who knows, there have been some Jedi who were more into flying/piloting back in the day (or should I say in the future) Plo Koon and or Saesse Tiin (sp?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shem Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I've said it many times in the past that I believe that Carth is Force sensitive. Not all Force sensitives get trained in the ways of the Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan7 Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I wouldn't be surprised if Carth had some force sensativity. I mean he was a great pilot, and his son was a force sensative. I think that to some degree, Carth is force sensative. Well, to me it would be implied that he got this trait from his father. We don't know hardly anything about Carth's wife. However, I'm not disregarding that it could have been from his mother. His mother was Arren Kae I think Carth most likely was FS, I think its hinted at the Han Solo was FS and he isn't trained to be a Jedi. Yeah, pretty sure it means what I said. He's saying that there are worse things to lose than those you love. Sorry wires crossed my end, I thought you were saying the opposite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 He does have an unusual affinity for Jedi, if you think about it.... First, het let's Zayne Carrick escape (in the eyes of the Republic a wanted criminal) and takes the visions Zayne has seriously. Then, at the Ascada negotiations, he again 'foresees' trouble and brings Zayne his equipment after which Zayne, with some help,(violently) saves the day. And a few years later, he AGAIN finds himself in the company of famous Jedi, this time Revan and Bastilla. It's actually a very interesting thought, Carth force sensative... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Alt Del Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 It's a possibility. Why did he kept that fact secret on the whole K1, however? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurges-Ahter Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I was thinking the same thing... if he is force sensitive, is it really "secretive" or is it just unknown? Perhaps he doesn't realize his force sensitivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Why did he kept that fact secret on the whole K1, however? There's three possibilities there: He dislikes Jedi, or at least doesn't fully trust them, so he probably wouldn't want to turn his life over into their hands. He doesn't know. Or he's not Force sensitive enough to be trained as a Jedi, but has enough sensitivity to have a higher perception and intuition than your average Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurges-Ahter Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 There's three possibilities there: He dislikes Jedi, or at least doesn't fully trust them, so he probably wouldn't want to turn his life over into their hands. He doesn't know. Or he's not Force sensitive enough to be trained as a Jedi, but has enough sensitivity to have a higher perception and intuition than your average Joe. Personally I think the most likely scenario is a combination of options 2 and 3. He has a higher perception and intuition than your average Joe, but doesn't know it; at least not to the point where he believes he's force sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Alt Del Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 He dislikes Jedi, or at least doesn't fully trust them, so he probably wouldn't want to turn his life over into their hands. That's pretty unlikely, IMO; the Jedi were low on knights, true, but training one takes a life and Carth himself is far too old (don't mention Revan here, we all know he wasn't trained during K1 in fact). He doesn't know. Is that even possible? If he doesn't know, poking around so many jedi on the Hawk and Dantooine would surely reveal it. Or he's not Force sensitive enough to be trained as a Jedi, but has enough sensitivity to have a higher perception and intuition than your average Joe. And enough to not be poisoned by Rakghouls. Makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurges-Ahter Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Is that even possible? If he doesn't know, poking around so many jedi on the Hawk and Dantooine would surely reveal it. Sure it's possible. Harry Potter didn't know he was a wizard until Hagrid told him. Seriously, though, if all people are force-users in their own right, naturally there's a section of the spectrum that includes people with higher levels of sensitivity than average, but not high enough to notice they are force sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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