Tysyacha Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Your thoughts? Note: If you pick Option 3, please suggest another option besides voting, and that you think would be better than voting, for making changes happen in our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litofsky Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I don't entirely believe that my vote would be counted (not because there are so many people, but for other reasons), but I will still vote.* If you don't care for the current 'regime,' voting is a great way to protest. Not only is it an act that many gave their lives for over two hundred years ago, but it enables anyone to say "I disagree with the current administration, and this is my way of making a difference." To not vote is to put shame on your country, in my opinion. *= I would vote, but I can't this election. 2012 is the year for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I’ll vote, I wouldn’t say because it is my civic responsibility and I’ll gladly perform it except I’m forced in the poll if I am definitely going to vote. I vote so that I am not such a hypocrite when I grip about the direction this country is taking. At least I’m trying even if they don’t count my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True_Avery Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I've noticed a trend that happens around voting season... People talk less about voting for who they -want-, and more about who they -don't want- in office. I can understand if you don't want a certain person in office, but how many people simply vote for someone because they just don't happen to like the other guy? I dunno, maybe its just me. I don't particularly feel like voting though. I'm not a fan of Hilary, Obama, or McCain. I'm not going to vote for them simply because they support one party more than the other. Plus, I'm cynical enough to think that they will all screw things up and fix things in their own unique ways. You can call me unpatriotic. I'd be the first to agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 2012 is also the year for me to vote. When that time comes I will most definately vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter426 Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I picked option three. Not because I think my vote is worthless, but because I think my vote in this election is worthless. All three candidates are equally unfit. But I probably will vote. Maybe I'll flip a coin. So, what should you do instead of voting (or in addition to, rather)? Read the constitution. And then get the candidates to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litofsky Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I picked option three. Not because I think my vote is worthless, but because I think my vote in this election is worthless. All three candidates are equally unfit. But I probably will vote. Maybe I'll flip a coin. So, what should you do instead of voting (or in addition to, rather)? Read the constitution. And then get the candidates to read it. May I suggest a vote-in? At Avery: I respect that you don't like any of the candidates. If I had it my way, they'd all lose. Of course, that's not an option (or rather, that's not a reasonable option), and the choice remains the same. I don't like McCain, and if it comes down to it, my 'vote (meaning anyone I influence)' will go to Obama. He seems the lesser of two evils in this race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuuKage Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I picked option 3, simply because no matter which candidate wins we're all f'ing screwed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 ^^^^ How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurges-Ahter Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I picked option 2, because I do feel a responsibility to vote, but I can't stand any of the candidates remaining. So for the first time since I've been eligible, I might not vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litofsky Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Perhaps he means America as a whole, and not the Presidential Candidates? At above: If you don't vote, how do you stand yourself when you complain about the President? At least, if you voted, you have the right to criticize the other candidate that won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurges-Ahter Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I won't complain about the president. I have never complained about a president. Whether or not I agree with his/her beliefs, he/she is still my president and I will accept that regardless of the person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litofsky Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I won't complain about the president. I have never complained about a president. Whether or not I agree with his/her beliefs, he/she is still my president and I will accept that regardless of the person. All the better to you. I, on the other hand, constantly insult the President, and have done so for quite some time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuuKage Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 ^^^^ How so? one liberal socialist one more liberal socialist one angry angry man not very good options imo...two will socialize the nation and take away most of our freedoms, the other will free the prisoners, open the border to all nations, and continue the now-pointless Iraq war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderWiggin Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 not very good options imo...two will socialize the nation and take away most of our freedoms, the other will free the prisoners, open the border to all nations, and continue the now-pointless Iraq war. When has Obama's campaign platform ever been "Obama '08: Taking away most of your freedoms"? I'm not sure what you're implying here. Or rather, I see what you're implying, but I'm not sure why. About McCain: Isn't this country free? Shouldn't the borders be open to others? And as for this: one liberal socialist one more liberal socialist one angry angry man You've got to be kidding me. _EW_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I have one little voice. By myself, I'm not going to make very much of a difference, although the people in Broward County, FL learned just how important their votes were in the 2000 presidential election. However, if a bunch of people who share my views go out and vote, all of us together make a difference. Even if our candidate loses, it lets the winner know that some of us didn't agree with his/her ideas, and that might have an impact on their policy-making. There have been a few elections where I held my nose while pushing the lever to vote, but I voted anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter426 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 When has Obama's campaign platform ever been "Obama '08: Taking away most of your freedoms"? No, his platform has been "change we can believe in". Change what? Hmm? Change what? And how? (Not saying the other two are any better. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 No, his platform has been "change we can believe in". Change what? Hmm? Change what? And how? Perhaps change from taking away our personal liberties in the name of security. Perhaps change from shredding the Constitution and the Bill of Rights under the guise of Home Land Security. Perhaps change from the partisanship that is destroying this country. Perhaps change from alienating our own allies. (Not saying the other two are any better. ) I am saying that none can be worst than the person that currently holds the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCarter426 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Perhaps change from shredding the Constitution and the Bill of Rights under the guise of Home Land Security. Trouble is, McCain, Obama, and Clinton would all do the same, only under a different guise. Perhaps change from the partisanship that is destroying this country. Then what's all this talk I hear about "Democrats uniting"? Both sides are responsible for splitting the country up into two sides. I am saying that none can be worst than the person that currently holds the position. You do have a point there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcesious Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 In 2012, I'll finally be able to vote too... As response to what True Avery mentioned, my father is voting for Mccain for the kind of reasons she mentioned: -He hates Hillary because of the original Clinton Administration's decisions -He doesn't want Obama because he is a Christian who supports Gay Marriage -He wants Mccain because he thinks Bush did a great job as president, -He wants someone like Paul or Romney as Vice President, -And he hates democrats due to their 'immoral values'... Out of who's left, I'd vote for Obama... Either that, or maybe Hillary isn't so bad... I think I'll go check out her website... I want to have all the facts, after all, and wanting to support Obama on the hunch that Hillary is worse than he is shouldn't be what I use to judge who's better... I'll have to check that out later. Hopefully next election season we'll have some better candidates, and our voters will have learned a few things from this election... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 If I vote this time, it'll be more as vs than for, as I will have to choose from the lesser of 2 evils (yet again). Guess I'll have to wait and see who the veep candidates are first. Perhaps change from taking away our personal liberties in the name of security. Rather in the name of social welfare. Perhaps change from shredding the Constitution and the Bill of Rights under the guise of Home Land Security. Instead shredding it to form the Nanny state. Perhaps change from the partisanship that is destroying this country. Or foist dem partisanship upon us instead of rep. Perhaps change from alienating our own allies. to taking orders from them I am saying that none can be worst than the person that currently holds the position. Well...........not quite. As bad, yes. However, I grant you he HAS been a disappointment on many levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Rider Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I'm porbably closest aligned with #1, I do feel it's my responsibility, but not to society, I feel it's my responsibility to myself. I've really got nobody to blame but myself when things go wrong if I don't make any sort of effort to swing them in what I believe to be a poisitive direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MdKnightR Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I picked option three. Not because I think my vote is worthless, but because I think my vote in this election is worthless. All three candidates are equally unfit. But I probably will vote. Maybe I'll flip a coin. Vote 3rd Party/Independent. If Ron Paul ultimately bails out, that's what I'm going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Obama supports personal responsibility, and out of all the candidates he's the one whom I agree with the most. Honestly, he does carry some weight, at least charismatically and linguistically. Hillary I have issues with, even if only for her stance on video games. That's nanny stating a government. McCain doesn't seem his old rambunctious self. It's a little depressing, he used to be very entertaining to hear on the Daily Show and more vocal news outlets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 one liberal socialist one more liberal socialist one angry angry man This doesn't tell me anything. Your use of the term "socialist" indicates to me that you probably don't know what it means. not very good options imo...two will socialize the nation and take away most of our freedoms, How? What freedoms are you concerned about losing under Clinton or Obama? the other will free the prisoners, I must confess that I'm not sure what you're referring to here. open the border to all nations, I thought they were already open and had been for hundreds of years. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" and continue the now-pointless Iraq war. Amen to that No, his platform has been "change we can believe in". Change what? Hmm? Change what? And how?At the risk of sounding like I'm mindlessly regurgitating campaign rhetoric: Changing the politics of division and exclusion. Voter registration in 2008? Record breaking. Campaign contribution in 2008? Record breaking. % of Obama's campaign contributions made by private citizens? 99% Love him or hate him, that's your call, but you can't honestly say that the man has not accomplished what he set out to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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