Ctrl Alt Del Posted June 30, 2008 Posted June 30, 2008 I didn't say they were meant to be comedies, but I'm about to see one of their movies as to which the purpose isn't to have some fun of proven quality. On that aspect, I feel their quality has degraded.
mur'phon Posted June 30, 2008 Posted June 30, 2008 Well, it seems like my middle of nowhere village only show the movie a few times, all which just happen to be sold out. If all else fails they should still be running it in much bigger Murmansk once I move there, though then it'll probably be in russian:( Achilles: Jeez, you are realy devoted
Arcesious Posted June 30, 2008 Posted June 30, 2008 This has been quite the year for great movies... What I have yet to see are: Hancock Zohan The Love Guru Get Smart and, of course, Wall-E...
Ravnas Posted June 30, 2008 Posted June 30, 2008 This has been quite the year for great movies... What I have yet to see are: Hancock Zohan The Love Guru Get Smart and, of course, Wall-E... Hancock looks like crap, Zohan is crap, and Love Guru..... Well, suffice to say it's crap. But Get Smart And Wall-E are in the top 5 best movies released this year. Along with Iron Man, Wanted, and The Incredible Hulk(Number 5, if you're curious)
DarthAve Posted June 30, 2008 Posted June 30, 2008 I'm one of the younger members (15) and honestly...maybe it's a parent thing, but I stopped going to theaters and seeing kids movies because I'm not a kid. I mean, my parents dragged me into Shrek 3(What a load of crap that was) but I tend to steer away from kids movies when I could revel in the bad language and ultraviolence that I, the "typical" American teenager, love.
Arcesious Posted June 30, 2008 Posted June 30, 2008 Hancock looks like crap, Zohan is crap, and Love Guru..... Well, suffice to say it's crap. But Get Smart And Wall-E are in the top 5 best movies released this year. Along with Iron Man, Wanted, and The Incredible Hulk(Number 5, if you're curious) That is where our opions vary... I very much enjoy comedy and action equally. Comedy movies tend to be stupid, and action movies can also be stupid. Doesn't mean they aren't entertaining...
Achilles Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 I'm one of the younger members (15) and honestly...maybe it's a parent thing, but I stopped going to theaters and seeing kids movies because I'm not a kid. I mean, my parents dragged me into Shrek 3(What a load of crap that was) but I tend to steer away from kids movies when I could revel in the bad language and ultraviolence that I, the "typical" American teenager, love.I'm sorry, did you just refer to Pixar films as "kid" movies?
EnderWiggin Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 I'm sorry, did you just refer to Pixar films as "kid" movies? Uh oh. You're in trouble now, Avery. _EW_
DarthAve Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Well.... no offense.... but movies about talkng racecars and talking toys and another generic anthromophorbic object that has human like qualities and always ends in a heartwarming sentimental lesson-learned way is a kids movie in my opinion.... I like it when things die, and the only things that die in disney related films is mothers, and I love my mommy and wouldn't want to see her dead,
Achilles Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Well.... no offense.... but movies about talkng racecars and talking toys and another generic anthromophorbic object that has human like qualities and always ends in a heartwarming sentimental lesson-learned way is a kids movie in my opinion.... I like it when things die, and the only things that die in disney related films is mothers, and I love my mommy and wouldn't want to see her dead,So have you actually seen any of the Pixar movies? I could understand if we were talking about Zohan and you said that you don't like Adam Sandler films, but dismissing Pixar based on your experiences with the garbage that Dreamworks churns out is like saying you don't like filet mignon because your parents made you eat steak at Denny's once.
KinchyB Posted July 1, 2008 Author Posted July 1, 2008 I'm one of the younger members (15) and honestly...maybe it's a parent thing, but I stopped going to theaters and seeing kids movies because I'm not a kid. I mean, my parents dragged me into Shrek 3(What a load of crap that was) but I tend to steer away from kids movies when I could revel in the bad language and ultraviolence that I, the "typical" American teenager, love. Uh oh...you angered (or got the attention of) the great and powerful Achilles... Ahhh, to be young again...granted I'm not old either but I can at least say that when I was your age I had pretty much the same priorities. Shrek wouldn't have appealed...Wall-E would have no appeal (Referring to when i was younger...not now Achilles ) but things change. At some point though you start looking for a bit more in your movies and also appreciate/understand a bit more about what the movie is actually saying (assuming it's trying to say something). Also you start to notice how the movie was made and what has been done with it. For Example...Toy Story probably not much appeal when I was younger, however, it was also "the first full length 3D animation movie" (quoting Achilles...aka...Pixar fanboy ). For that reason alone it's kind of cool to go back and see what they did. Supposedly it took somewhere from 4 to 13 hours to render a single frame...then think about how many frames there are...kind of crazy...and the graphics have only gotten more complex since then. Kind of interesting, no? In this case, the social commentary in Wall-E is one of the most intriguing aspects of the film for me and what I appreciated the most about it. Being 15, I wouldn't expect for you to see much value in that aspect of a movie, so your comments are fairly understandable.
Achilles Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Ahhh, to be young again...granted I'm not old either but I can at least say that when I was your age I had pretty much the same priorities. <snip> Being 15, I wouldn't expect for you to see much value in that aspect of a movie, so your comments are fairly understandable. Indeed. When I was 15 I probably had a little bit more tolerance for "gun-porn" (to quote ET Warrior) than I do now. I just find it odd that a film with some effort at depth and artistic merit is categorically dismissed as a "kid movie" on the assumption that it might contain "cliche situations" in favor of the latest reheated, rehashed, and regurgitated installment of the "summer shoot-em-up movie" which obviously doesn't contain any cliches at all.
DarthAve Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 So have you actually seen any of the Pixar movies? I could understand if we were talking about Zohan and you said that you don't like Adam Sandler films, but dismissing Pixar based on your experiences with the garbage that Dreamworks churns out is like saying you don't like filet mignon because your parents made you eat steak at Denny's once. Listen, I'm just voicing my own opinions. This isn't Kavar's, so I don't intend to get things heated. I just essentially feel that I don't want to see WALL-E because, albiet I'm a science fiction nerd, it just doesn't look that appealing to me personally when there are many more movies that appeal to me. An animated movie geared towards children pales in comparison to me than a period romance/drama I still need to rent, or a spy comedy I planned on seeing two days ago with friends but bailed out because I'm in another state. So sorry if your mad at me or something, I just probably won't be seeing this... Also I don't like the idea of government officials shoving secret messages into films. The whole sort of environmentalist thing lurking in the background of WALL-E just does not appeal. Sorry Al Gore, but you haven't got this one. and I've seen every pixar film except the one about the cooking rat that's title I can't spell....
Jae Onasi Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Yeah, I ended up seeing it 6 times this weekend . And here I thought seeing The Incredibles 5 times in one week was hardcore for me. @DarthAve--if you like period romance, check out Kenneth Branagh's version of 'Much Ado about Nothing'. The opening bath scene is worth the rental charge alone.
Achilles Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 This isn't Kavar's, This makes me giggle whenever I see it. I just essentially feel that I don't want to see WALL-E because, albiet I'm a science fiction nerd, it just doesn't look that appealing to me personally when there are many more movies that appeal to me. You're welcome to see or not see whatever your tastes dictate. I just find it slightly odd that you're calling it a "kid movie" (and indeed you appear to be extending that label to all of Pixar's works). If it truly was geared toward children or had childish themes I could understand, but one of the things that I've always respected about Pixar is that they don't do "kid movies" (which is why I am a Pixar-specific fanboy and not a 3D animation-in general fanboy). So sorry if your mad at me or something, I just probably won't be seeing this... Not mad at all and I've seen every pixar film except the one about the cooking rat that's title I can't spell....So have I. Hence the confusion as to how you came up with those earlier generalizations. And here I thought seeing The Incredibles 5 times in one week was hardcore for me. I saw The Incredibles 6 times in the theaters but that was spread out over a few weeks. So you win (on that film ).
MacTavish Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 It was an excellent movie, one of Pixar's best I think, and also one fo the funniest. I really liked the message of the whole movie too.
Ravnas Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 I think the big shock moment for me was when the Captain screamed, I don't want to survive! I want to live! I went into nirvana then and there.
Achilles Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 ^^^^ Don't even get me started on all the lemming-like behavior that I'm sure 99% of everyone doesn't think applies to them My favorite moment is when EVE is resting her head against WALL*E's and she's humming the song from Hello Dolly and it's real quiet and you can hear every female in the audience sobbing ..."kid's movie" my @ss...
Ravnas Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 If only animated films could still get nominated for Best Picture, I mean really! Heads are going to roll if this gets snubbed.
Rogue Nine Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 As far as I can remember, animated films can still be nominated for Best Picture, it just hasn't happened since Beauty and the Beast. My favorite moment is when EVE is resting her head against WALL*E's and she's humming the song from Hello Dolly and it's real quiet and you can hear every female in the audience sobbing That is my absolute favorite moment in the film as well, and I think I'm going to have to go back and watch it again just for that. It was so poignantly beautiful and heart-wrenching that I almost teared up as well. ;.; This scene and so many others were really what set this movie apart from the dreck that is 'kids movies'. Not only are the themes it addresses more moving and relevant than cutesy kids fluff, but the way Pixar told the story really brought it all together and made it so beautiful and real. To write this off as a simple 'kids' movie' without actually giving it a chance is supremely ignorant. And yes, EVE is the best character ever because her modus operandi is to blow the everloving CRAP out of everything and ask questions later. A robot after my own heart; no wonder WALL*E fell in love with her.
Arcesious Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Judging from these comments of people of this movie- I must go see it... Soon.
Q Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 Also I don't like the idea of government officials shoving secret messages into films. The whole sort of environmentalist thing lurking in the background of WALL-E just does not appeal. Sorry Al Gore, but you haven't got this one.Bless you, child. That you're capable of original thought makes you a true diamond in a sea of cubic zirconium. I'll see this movie eventually, I'm sure, but I certainly won't be paying to see it. Something about paying to see a film laced with propaganda, whether it's from the left or the right, does not sit well with me at all. I get more than enough of such attempted brainwashing crap for free every time I'm stupid enough to talk to my mom for more than five minutes.
Commander Obi-Wan Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 I went to see Wanted thrice this weekend. I really enjoyed it. But I guess that comes with my young age. But, I still want to see Wall-E. Hopefully, sooner than later.
KinchyB Posted July 1, 2008 Author Posted July 1, 2008 Something about paying to see a film laced with propaganda, whether it's from the left or the right, does not sit well with me at all. Laced with propaganda...seriously? Assuming you didn't like the not so rosey picture of the future they had established in Wall-E?
Achilles Posted July 1, 2008 Posted July 1, 2008 I liked the part where the government officials helped, because reason forbid that these are conclusions that people are coming to on their own
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