Tyrion Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I remember when I was eight watching the episode where they said the sun is going to explode in a few billion years. Does a children's show remain a children's show when it gives its intended audience a sense of fatalistic nihilism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 B-but y-y what I mean... eheu! quod qui se ille... ? VINCIT. Wuthering Heights. Wuthering Heights. Pride and Prejudice! Red bricks on the brink of walruses! Clotted cream flying over the briny?! Toxic Bachelors! The House On Hope Street! I remember when I was eight watching the episode where they said the sun is going to explode in a few billion years. Does a children's show remain a children's show when it gives its intended audience a sense of fatalistic nihilism?yes remember when steve left blue's clues do you know how many lives that destroyed http://www.steveswebpage.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Academically, try being attentive to whether or not a teacher repeats some point and makes related points. Look for strong relations in the work you are assigned. Avoid sodas and junk food. Eat healthy and get in shape. Tutors are there for you so take advantage of it. Don't allow the high school counselor to intimidate you out of classes--you'll be happy you pushed yourself to go farther. As far as bullies: "I have to advise a slight lack of appreciative endeavor" (--rivan) If it's the typical trash canning and wedgies, usually they're in an overconfident state of mind and will be surprised by a nasty outlashing if you really do not want their antics. If it's REAL danger, however: Learning self-defense both mentally and physically is the best you can do. If you've already been through a lot, look back and try learning something from it. DO NOT IGNORE IT! My experience: Simply ignoring it doesn't work if you (or the bully, or both of you) are an outcast socially, and judged "bad kid" by the school authorities for it. Running to them doesn't do anything, and if it does it will maybe drag you into trouble too. Go to the real authorities worse comes to worst. DON'T tell ME that "THIS never happens". I ignored it once and wound up getting stabbed in the back of the neck with a pencil. At which point I learned some who see you don't fight back, or at least defend yourself, will take it as a sign of weakness. They will never stop-unlike the upper classmen who will back off once they see they can't get any more reactions out of it. That freshman confrontation changed me and I stood up for myself in school from then on. Bullies with a real chip on their shoulder want an easy swipe--if they have to fight you to do something most likely they won't do it twice (even if they win). By high school age adversaires realize some laws and know how to snake their way around authorities. If the bully is highly determined to make your life miserable or injure you you have no choice but to stand your ground out of the watchful eyes of the system. If you are not able to physically stand up for yourself: I suppose find someone who can protect you. Or be miondful that avoiding confrontations (not out of fear, self preservation rather) is the best lot. If you are assaulted, get proof as well as an adult who will fight for your case, and notify the authorities. The school system has NO right to tell you you cannot defend yourself. If you believe yourself in real danger DO NOT IGNORE IT. KNOW the laws and your RIGHTS as a CITIZEN. Schools try to override or supercede it: DON'T let THEM intimidate you into thinking they actually do. You don't have to tell school officials anything, especially in the matters where you are not in the wrong. They may try to coerce you--don't fall for it. If it's harassement, remind them that they still must notify you in advance and you have the legal right to have a parent or advocate (on your side-not the school) with you and they have to have good legal reason to do so--not just school policy. They can only allow police to search you if they have GOOD REASON to do so--breaking a law, believing you might harm yourself/others, or are carrying drugs. Police harassement: file a formal complaint. It stays on their record for 5 years, they can't do anything without firm reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkywalkerRules Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 My tip: When you're in the 11th Grade, grades will count for College. An adult told me that. So do you're best, and whatever you do... do not slack on your works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawathehutt Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 My tip: When you're in the 11th Grade, grades will count for College. An adult told me that. So do you're best, and whatever you do... do not slack on your works! Thats totally true, even though I never actually did do homework in advance and other novel sounding ideas in 11th grade, I did work my ass off, basically the way it works is 9th: try hard 10th: try hard 11th: Try harder than hard 12th 1st semester: once your accepted, keep your grades high enough to stay accepted 12th 2nd semester: in regular classes, just pass them if you need the credit, otherwise enjoy doing not much of anything, for AP classes, continue to work your ass off until the AP tests. Then enjoy doing absolutely nothing in every class your in. I just don't agree with that. Relationships should be more important than a physical connection you get from a short, shallow small-talk session with a girl you don't even know. If you really want to meet a girl, meet her, talk with her, get to know what her tastes and personality are like, develop a companionship that isn't necessarily romantic before-hand, and you'll be much happier with the person you end up dating. Much happier. I would, but my school just lost its #1 spot for teen pregancies and STDs in the state and we're trying to get those back. Just kidding, I more or less just dont feel like going through the unnecessary stress of a pretty much guaranteed to be doomed high school relationship. I'm quite happy being friends with lots of people, no need to ruin that because of a bad breakup. Besides, who said it had to get romantic. First off, it's best just to not give a flying **** whether or not someone says something behind your back. People will do it one way or another, because teenagers, save for the scant few exceptions, are pricks. Don't let what they think or what they say about you mean squat, and it won't. People who gossip tend to be those on the upper teir of high school heirarchies, and also those who tend to end up failing miserably at real life. If you find a strong emotional connection with a girl, age shouldn't matter, except when it crosses into legal territory, and even then, just keep it away from the physical stuff until they're old enough to participate in that. If you're really mature enough to handle a relationship, then you'll pick a girl that's just as mature regardless of what she looks like, how old she is, or who she hangs around with. And if you're both mature and responsible, there's nothing to hide or be afraid of. Screw those pigs gossiping behind your back, they don't have the guts to say it to your face, they don't deserve the dignity involved in you recognising their existence. Its high school, if the relationships been going on for more than say a couple of months, chances are things will cross into what could be legal territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 The school system has NO right to tell you you cannot defend yourself. If you believe yourself in real danger DO NOT IGNORE IT. KNOW the laws and your RIGHTS as a CITIZEN. Schools try to override or supercede it: DON'T let THEM intimidate you into thinking they actually do. If you're trying to say that the school can't prevent you from fighting with other students, or bringing "defensive" weaponry to school, then you're dead wrong. The school has every right to forbid physical violence as well as the use of weapons of any kind, regardless of the situation. Sure, you have the right to defend yourself, but bringing a weapon to school or mounting a pre-emptive strike against someone you feel threatened by is not legally considered self defence. If you're attacked you have the right to defend yourself with appropriate force, yes, but that does not give you the right to carry a knife - much less a gun - at school. Besides, physical violence solves nothing anyway. If you feel the threat of physical violence is imminent, take the matter to the office, or take other such measures to protect yourself. Make plans to have your friends around more often, or stay near a classroom where a teacher will be present. Fighting only makes matters worse. You don't have to tell school officials anything, especially in the matters where you are not in the wrong. They may try to coerce you--don't fall for it. If it's harassement, remind them that they still must notify you in advance and you have the legal right to have a parent or advocate (on your side-not the school) with you and they have to have good legal reason to do so--not just school policy. If you truly believe you're not in the wrong, then you have absolutely no reason to conceal information from authorities who could potentially aid you in solving a problem. They can only allow police to search you if they have GOOD REASON to do so--breaking a law, believing you might harm yourself/others, or are carrying drugs. The school itself, however, can search a locker without police intervention at any time they want. The locker is school property, not yours, and they have every right to search it whenever they feel they need to. Random locker checks, as well as searching students as they enter the school, are perfectly legal measures that any school can choose to adopt at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderWiggin Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Don't try for a 4.0, that right there -if you're not naturally talented in a school way- will add so much stress to your life that it just isn't worth it! If you're already stressed out, don't add going out with somebody to the list. You may get made fun of it, but it's simply not worth it in the short run. Never work with someone dumber than yourself. Don't be afraid to hurt other kid's feelings in pursuit of your grade. Only your grade should matter to you, not Joe's. 1. I think everyone should strive for a 4.0 even if they don't reach it. It's good to have a goal. 2. I think high school relationships could be quite beneficial to a kid's maturity. And not only that, speaking as someone who had a high school relationship, I actually was less depressed with school during the times I was dating her. 3. I think that sometimes it's your obligation to do this - help out those who need it. It's karmic and beneficial in the long run. 4. This is just mean. Its high school, if the relationships been going on for more than say a couple of months, chances are things will cross into what could be legal territory. Not necessarily. Not if they are mature, obviously. _EW_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 If you're trying to say that the school can't prevent you from fighting with other students, or bringing "defensive" weaponry to school, then you're dead wrong. [/Quote] No I mean in that they have no right to tell you you can't fight back if it is the only way you can avoid being harmed --I never said bring a weapon. If you're attacked you have the right to defend yourself with appropriate force, yes, but that does not give you the right to carry a knife - much less a gun - at school. [/Quote] That was what I was getting across. I did not bring up weapons because of the fact that they are not a viable alternative--though ninja skills with pencils seem to be overlooked... Besides, physical violence solves nothing anyway. If you feel the threat of physical violence is imminent, take the matter to the office, or take other such measures to protect yourself. Make plans to have your friends around more often, or stay near a classroom where a teacher will be present. Fighting only makes matters worse. [/Quote] Again, more or less what I said. The school can't be there *all* the time, however. It's not really violent if you are fending off the agressor. Other measures will have to do if the office is of little help in the matter. If you truly believe you're not in the wrong, then you have absolutely no reason to conceal information from authorities who could potentially aid you in solving a problem. [/Quote] From the authorities other than school, true. The school: That does not help if the principle has a jones out for for you and is willing to misinterpret the information because she has an agenda or simply looks at all students as criminals. While that kind of politics is illegal, it takes years, proof, and multiple testimony. A luxury, unfortunately, you don't have when time is ticking and you are in a position of 'guilty until proven innocent'. They call it "shakedown" to try to get you to fess up to something you didn't do. While school corruption is rare--it isn't non existent. I'm only sharing my experiences of what I wnet through, so in that rare case it may benefit somebody out there. No matter how unlikely it is to occur again, having the knowledge there is beneficial as opposed to not. With all due respect, you were NOT in my shoes, so you DON'T KNOW what I went through, doctor. I am glad to clarify, however. The school itself, however, can search a locker without police intervention at any time they want. The locker is school property, not yours, and they have every right to search it whenever they feel they need to. Random locker checks, as well as searching students as they enter the school, are perfectly legal measures that any school can choose to adopt at any time. Again, you're assuming I was talking about bringing weapons--I NEVER SAID that it was okay to bring weapons to school. If the school does its job in the first place (and its officials aren't "nazis"), then there is little to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adavardes Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Not necessarily. Not if they are mature, obviously. _EW_ I totally agree. I hate when people look at relationships in high school as just a fling, or something that must inevitably lead to sex. Quite honestly, if you're mature enough, a high school relationship can last well beyond just high school, especially if you treat it like a serious relationship. If you look at it with the perspective that it will undoubtedly fail by the time you graduate, you're putting an expiration date on the commitment, and to me, that's both a surefire way to turn relationships into failures, and is misleading to your companion in question. I don't go into a relationship unless I am expecting to commit to it fully, to fight to make it work, and unless I plan on real love being a factor later down the road. A relationship only fails if you allow it to, or it was just never meant to be. Or, and this is important, if you're an irresponsible, immature person who automatically starts something with a girl or guy and already see a breakup on the horizon. And, by the way, sex isn't necessarily a primary focus of a relationship. Believe it or not, some guys actually don't care that much for the physical stuff, but prefer having that mental connection with someone, and having someone you trust unconditionally to talk to and hang out with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawathehutt Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 1. I think everyone should strive for a 4.0 even if they don't reach it. It's good to have a goal. Its an incredibly unrealistic goal also, I would much rather get an education in both life and school rather than just get in education from school, then spend my evenings doing more school without learning any social skills or anything else. Not to mention how some teachers are harder than others and if you have bad luck one year, you might as well kiss that 4.0 good bye. 2. I think high school relationships could be quite beneficial to a kid's maturity. And not only that, speaking as someone who had a high school relationship, I actually was less depressed with school during the times I was dating her. Theyre also a great way to get whipped and have a really ****ty high school experience. 4. This is just mean. I agree with you there, reputation travels faster than anything other than maybe gossip. Not necessarily. Not if they are mature, obviously. _EW_ Again, this is high school. Lets think about how mature people are in high school. If you dont believe me, ask an angry old person, they will probably have a lot of complaints against teens now a days that they would love to share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samnmax221 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Read. This cannot be stressed enough, but people who read more achieve more. Romance novels do not count. Dan Brown does not count, Dan Brown is Umberto Ecco for retards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderWiggin Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Its an incredibly unrealistic goal also, I would much rather get an education in both life and school rather than just get in education from school, then spend my evenings doing more school without learning any social skills or anything else. Not to mention how some teachers are harder than others and if you have bad luck one year, you might as well kiss that 4.0 good bye. Wasn't unrealistic for me, friend. And re: your other point... not necessarily, considering we're talking about my relationships too - I hope you're not insinuating that I'm socially inept. Theyre also a great way to get whipped and have a really ****ty high school experience. Wow, this is insulting. Way to imply that I was whipped and that I had bad high school experiences. I think the words you were looking for were "We must have had different experiences, because my relationship didn't end well." Again, it all depends on the maturity of the two people, and what they expect out of it, and etc. Don't think that just because you weren't able to do it means that no one should try it. Again, this is high school. Lets think about how mature people are in high school. If you dont believe me, ask an angry old person, they will probably have a lot of complaints against teens now a days that they would love to share. Point by point: So what if it's high school? Some people are quite mature in high school, to be honest. In my graduating class, there were a few people who were more mature than some adults I've met. Try not to be too ageist with your replies. Oh, and ask an angry old person? Flawless logic, now I'm truly convinced _EW_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adavardes Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Wasn't unrealistic for me, friend. And re: your other point... not necessarily, considering we're talking about my relationships too - I hope you're not insinuating that I'm socially inept. Wow, this is insulting. Way to imply that I was whipped and that I had bad high school experiences. I think the words you were looking for were "We must have had different experiences, because my relationship didn't end well." Again, it all depends on the maturity of the two people, and what they expect out of it, and etc. Don't think that just because you weren't able to do it means that no one should try it. Point by point: So what if it's high school? Some people are quite mature in high school, to be honest. In my graduating class, there were a few people who were more mature than some adults I've met. Try not to be too ageist with your replies. Oh, and ask an angry old person? Flawless logic, now I'm truly convinced _EW_ *CLAPS* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 ask an angry old person, they will probably have a lot of complaints against teens now a days that they would love to share. I'm angry and old, and I'm more annoyed with stupid adults. Dan Brown does not count, Dan Brown is Umberto Ecco for retards. No need to insult Umberto Eco... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 1. I think everyone should strive for a 4.0 even if they don't reach it. It's good to have a goal. Yes, I agree. That is already my plan, but I have found it very overwhelming to think about it. That is why I take it one day at a time--so I don't stress yourself out. Also, don't let your grades take over your life--just do your best and make sure that you actually learn something, and normally the grades follow. It really isn't all about grades, it is about what got you that grade. If your life is all about the grades, you sometimes do desperate things to attain it, such as cheating....ect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawathehutt Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I think you took my responses the wrong way, I wasnt refering to you at all, I was refering to high school students in general. Wasn't unrealistic for me, friend. And re: your other point... not necessarily, considering we're talking about my relationships too - I hope you're not insinuating that I'm socially inept. You either had better teachers or better luck then, last year my gpa took a major hit when I had a chem teacher whose goal when writing tests was to make them challenging for the smartest person in the class, a person who is now taking chem classes at UW madison as a junior in high school. Guess what that did to everyone else. And no, Im not calling you socially inept, Im saying that for most students, getting a 4.0 would require obscene amounts of extra studying that would eat up considerable time. That chem class I mention earlier, I was up until 3 some nights just doing homework, not even studying for it. And I managed to get a B- average in that class. I would say it is better to try and get a GPA that will give you a good chance of getting into whatever college you want to get into. Obviously if you want major university with high academic standards, you're going to try for a 4.0. But if you want to go to a smaller school that doesnt have such high requirements, theres no reed for such a high gpa, I've been accepted into the schools I want with a 3.4. Not to mention that even with a 4.0, if you're bad at taking the SAT or ACT, your pretty much screwed from getting into any college that would require a 4.0. Wow, this is insulting. Way to imply that I was whipped and that I had bad high school experiences. I think the words you were looking for were "We must have had different experiences, because my relationship didn't end well." Again, it all depends on the maturity of the two people, and what they expect out of it, and etc. Don't think that just because you weren't able to do it means that no one should try it. Again, not talking about anyone in particular, just saying that I've known people who have skipped field trips to 6 flags so they could have lunch at subway with their girlfriend and others who have skipped tests to watch their girlfriends at minor sporting events. If that's not whipped, I dont know what is. I for one would rather remember going on a fun field trip over getting a sub. Point by point: So what if it's high school? Some people are quite mature in high school, to be honest. In my graduating class, there were a few people who were more mature than some adults I've met. Try not to be too ageist with your replies. Oh, and ask an angry old person? Flawless logic, now I'm truly convinced _EW_ Key word in your statement, "some". Yes, there are some people who are mature, however a very large number aren't. Most people however, are mature at times, and complete idiots at other times. A good example of this would be the people who have good grades and are varsity athletes who decide to have drinking parties and blast loud music to send a nice message to every cop in town that there's an underage drinking party that needs to be busted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 this is such a horrible thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 this is such a horrible thread.Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samnmax221 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 No need to insult Umberto Eco... Its a shame they had to be in the same sentence but I was making a point. I don't know how many people I've heard say they really don't read anything, but then add that they've read everything Dan Brown has written. The world is ****ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallucination Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 this is such a horrible thread. However, it's working wonders for my ignore list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Its a shame they had to be in the same sentence but I was making a point. Well, I won't tell him if you won't. * I don't know how many people I've heard say they really don't read anything, but then add that they've read everything Dan Brown has written. Agh, that annoys me. Especially those people who think they're terribly clever and 'tip you off' about his books... >.> The world is ****ed. On that we are agreed. Edit: Neither Will I - d3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawathehutt Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Its a shame they had to be in the same sentence but I was making a point. I don't know how many people I've heard say they really don't read anything, but then add that they've read everything Dan Brown has written. The world is ****ed. Cant argue with that, its down right irritating how many people think that either A. his books are 100% fact and we should be looking for every artifact described in them, or B. that he invented the conspiracy theory genre along with the idea of the illuminati and everything else ever used in his books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Another wise word of advice. if upper classman invite you to go TPing with them, it's best to refuse. they need a scapegoat and what better scapegoat then an underclassman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I can say that showing actively, your certain interests in various fields as early as possible is a major MUST DO. Befriend the career people in the library. My interest in lasers had attracted one guy from DeVry to come 300 miles out of his way to get a prospective student (me) to even look at what they offered. I had a buddy interested in computer graphics. There are people who want to help you. We got to spend an entire afternoon checking it all out. Unfortunately, here I am as a brute and a menial, manual laborer almost 7 years later...Because I lost my way, and could not afford to go either...as well as generally not having it together... My old buddy has become a stoner and a pseudo transient walking around with his XBOX 360 in his backpack. If I can tell you anything, push yourself and stay like that before you get too set in your ways. Learn what the habits of being "effective" are. Do not be afraid to challenge yourself. It may not seem like much fun, but you can never go wrong if you find out what is needed early on and strive for it. Think of certain things as challenges to be met, and surpassed. Opportunities to be tested against a standard. It always used to bother me how people would call me "intelligent". Why it bothered me was because it implied more work and greater expectations of me. I never realized it was intended to tap unrealized potential... And to change for better... It's easier to change in your teens than your twenties. Younger the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 no need to prattle on, this is simple. 1. Set yourself an academic and/or career goal. Doesn't have to be all book smarts, it could be learning a trade etc. 2. work towards it. Edison didnt say ''Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration'' for nothing. 3. If you arent prepared to work hard enough to achieve the goals you set, send in your details to Burger King, or better yet, join the army. "I never did anything worth doing by accident, nor did any of my inventions come by accident. They came by work." mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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