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sorry to hear that Da_man. Is it just F@H or is the whole compy making grumbles?

 

yes, a very warm welcome to Kjolen! Now youve completed your first WU, you can enable the F&H numbers in your siggy ;)

 

As its a few pages back, I should dig it out and stick it somewhere for easy reference..

 

Also, for those who havent checked it out yet, make sure you have a listen to LucasCast Podcast Episode 2, featuring our very own Lexxy. This week, she gives us her take on zombie games, Christian Bale v Hugh Jackmans hawtness and does a little rendition of "mana-mana" from the muppets ;)

 

We <3 Lexxy !

 

Astro

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I think Niner is pretty lucky nobody had taken that name yet. And I am glad, otherwise he might have decided not to join if he couldn't get the name he wanted. :D

 

Astro,

I'm looking around for ChAiNz but the all these clouds up here really get in the way. :p

 

EDIT: I recently realized that our SMP folder (as far as I know tk is the only one who does this on our team) has a sky high points/WU ratio in excess of 1,200. Those SMP WU's are huge!

 

EDIT 2: Talk about a coincidence. Project 5902 for NVIDIA folders went into general release a couple of days ago and I got my first WU for this project this morning worth a whopping 1,680 points. This is the first time I can recall ever getting a GPU WU worth more than 1,000 points.

It's similar to P5900, but with some tweaks that should improve WU stability. Like P5900, this project runs on core 14. P5902 is a duplicate of P5760, the protein L folding simulations, intended to validate Core 14. P5902 runs are 4x longer than P5900 runs, and points have been bumped in proportion.

 

Please note, the behavior of this core is different from what you may expect. The following behaviors are NORMAL, and the points credit takes it into consideration:

 

* Varying time per frame

* Low GPU temperatures

* Fluctuating CPU usage (somewhat higher than GPU core 11).

 

 

WU's are worth 1680 points, with a preferred deadline of 3 days and final deadline of 4 days.

He wasn't kidding. My rig's power draw is fluctuating a lot with its first project 5902 WU and overall is less than it has been for other projects. I guess that corresponds to my GPU utilization bouncing between 70-100%. Definitely not what I'm used to seeing (GPU utilization pegged at 99-100%) but I was reassured everything was working as it should after reviewing the project 5902 thread on the folding forum.
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I havent been keeping track of what project Im embroiled in as my folding has been somewhat intermittent.

 

SMP client points can indeed be major points crunchers, just make sure the -smp flags are activated. Churning four cores with that would rack up some serious PPD

 

mtfbwya

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Project 5902 WU's would be automatically assigned as far as I know. They say Project 5900 WU's behave similar to the Project 5902 ones and you've completed two of those Miltiades. I don't even try to use the GPU client's viewer though so can't speak to any BSOD's.

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I think the GPU viewer is a remarkable irony, you want to have something to show off your folding or have as a screenie... but it in this case it actually reduces your folding performace markedly... what is the point of it I ask?

 

Id prefer a less 'wow' GPU viewer that you could use as a screenie, but the power consumption freak in me will compel me to switch my monitor off when not in use anyway ;)

 

mtfbwya

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@Char: I think I'm seeing the results now. I got 1680 for a WU, just like you. Never got that much before, so that's awesome. :D Strange thing is, I set the client to accept higher WUs, while also setting the CPU percentage to max. again, but the temperature of my GPU seems to have lowered as a result. It's on 62 right now, while just a few days ago, it was constantly around 77-81. I'm not complaining, that's for sure.

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Was having problems with this and uninstalled it, meaning to reinstall - but forgot!

 

So now I'm back folding - finished 2 WU's this week... is that slow? I only do have my one very modest desktop running it, since my laptop is only intermittently running.

 

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I think the GPU viewer is a remarkable irony, you want to have something to show off your folding or have as a screenie... but it in this case it actually reduces your folding performace markedly... what is the point of it I ask?
QFT

 

Miltiades,

Your description corresponds with my experience as well. I believe the lower GPU temps are due to this project's WU's not pushing max performance out of the GPU. Like I said my GPU fluctuates between 70-100% utilization with project 5900 and 5902 WU's whereas it seems like WU's for every other project my system has run have consistently been >95% GPU utilization.

 

EnderWiggin,

2 WU's in a week sounds good for a single CPU client. Whatever you can contribute helps no matter what. :)

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Welcome all new members. :)

 

Haven't been able to fold lately. Had a few PC problems. First was a trojen that took a few days to get rid of. Finally figured out it was in an mp3 file, and every time I synced my iPhone I was putting it back on the computer. Then my graphics card kinda blew up and I've had to go back to using my old one. I'm just gonna wait a week or so to make sure everything is okay now. Not sure this old card could handle much folding.

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Forgot to post this yesterday, but may I congratulate everyone on the team for reaching another magical milestone: Team LFN has reached 3,000,000 points!! And with our new members, we're again in the lift. Keep it up, everyone and happy folding. :)

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@Char: The points per WU are brought down a little by a couple single core clients running on older machines. It seems every SMP WU seems to either be worth 1760 or 1920. Still don't get much more than about 1000 PPD per SMP machine though.

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For those who are interested, the f@h project has decided to post x86 TFLOPS figures for the different processor types used in the project.

 

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=osstats

 

I guess this provides a more apples-to-apples comparison of performance using the x86 processor as a baseline.

 

4891 is the current native TFLOPS of the f@h project. When you factor in the work from all processors as if they were done by an x86 processor then 4891 jumps to 8716 TFLOPS. Whoa mama! Anyway, I thought some of you might find this of interest. :D

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I just checked the team page today, apparently I'm over 50 WUs already. :D

 

The only thing that puzzles me is how the WUs are distributed. When I get one that's out of 2000 or 8000 (I don't actually know what those numbers mean), my GPU doesn't go over 51 C when crunching it. When I get one that's out of 20000, my GPU temp ramps up to about 56-58 C. Can't really tell what governs which kind I get. :s

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Congrats to Niner and Kjolen, on earning their f@H badges. Thank you for your great(and continuing) contribution the project :)

 

Ive been around a little less as Ive been extremely busy with W7 testing. Im now 99% using W7 Build 7057 for htpc and gaming, which is something Im hearing from many formal and informal testers. W7 is definitely shaping up to be a nice release for alot of reasons. Of course, I am the first to acknowledge that W7 is an improved vista and that W7 will not be able to be in such a strong position were it not for everything that happenned in project longhorn since 2001. ;) Those who are espousing to the virtues of W7 whilst at the same time dismissing Vista are being remarkably short sighted![/another editorial]

@Niner. The numbers refer to frames that comprise 1 Work Unit for that particular structure. eg. 1000 frames in 1 WU. To describe in as easy way as possible a WU is a 'group of frames/calculations' your machine has been assigned. Once your GPU(etc) completes those frames/calculations, they get sent back and you get assigned a new bunch(ie. another work unit)

 

If a low frame(eg.1000) WU is taking just as much time as one with 20,000 frames, all that means is that the frames themselves are individually much larger in size(more calculations) than one individual frame in a 20,000 frame WU.

Im not sure what exactly governs what gets sent out to us... But you can keep an eye on it, what points etc using the log file, or the GUI happy FahMon ie. "F@H Monitor"

 

Fahmon.png

 

Those temps you get are pretty good. With my 8800GTS in a smallform case, Im never under 80C on a fold :( Thats why I bought an evga, with their lifetime warranty and such :p

 

@Char > I love reading that type of info. Yes, its geeky as hell and will likely never help you impress any supermodels, but it still is pretty awesome ;)

 

mtfbwya

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A quick update for those driverjunkies out there(of course that might only be me in here :p)

 

185.66 beta is now available for Vista and XP

 

Usual beta caveats apply. I am actually using them in vista no glitches ;) In W7 Im using 185.20 which has ironed out some minor gaming bugs. Haven't gamed in Vista for a while, so cannot comment on that.

 

mtfbwya

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