TheWhiteRaider Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 What is your view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 GUN CONTROL mean using BOTH HANDS! thats my view, the only restriced weaponse should be military hardware, full automatic stuff, and they should get rid of the illegal backgroud checks and record keeping they are doin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 get me a gun so i can kill you. there ,you have my opinion now DIE!!!!! this post brought to you by Kioet Csuhen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 R15/Kioet, go to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 i left my bed in sanfransico, my sanity in kansas, and the time well...*glares at clock* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Honestly. Even at this ungodly hour of the night must I reprimand a mod for off-topic and off color posts. Ugh, Fifteen. Gun control is a good thing, especially nowadays. Our wonderful Texan president may have a different view, but that's what we get for electing him, ne? Guns have no place in the hands of everyday citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowTemplar Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Originally posted by Rogue Nine Honestly. Even at this ungodly hour of the night must I reprimand a mod for off-topic and off color posts. Ugh, Fifteen. Gun control is a good thing, especially nowadays. Our wonderful Texan president may have a different view, but that's what we get for electing him, ne? Guns have no place in the hands of everyday citizens. I couldn't agree more if I wanted to. Firearms are nasty big time. In fact I think that it would be wise to keep all weapons off the streets, unless their owners can convince a judge that they deposit them safely, have a good reason to have them (ie are hunters) and are able to document by means of a doctor's certificate that they are completely stable. As for the "guns don't kill people" BS: It is just that: BS. It is analogous to saying that drugs don't kill people, because it's using the drugs that is harmful. Or that falling is harmless, because it's the impact that does the damage. BTW: Nice AV, Rouge Nine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 I agree with R9 and Templar. Why do civilians need guns that bad? To protect themselves? Pleeeease - if they protect themselves with guns, they end up shooting someone and go to jail. If you want to protect yourself properly, you should take self defence classes, which also teach you how to avoid violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Well, as far as the united states goes, we've had guns too long to ban them now. We've got a good sized black market in them, and banning them would mean they just end up in the hands of criminals which is bad bad bad. It might've worked back when we formed the country, but we sorta had to have the law back then. Has to do with the fact that most of our army that rebelled against Britain was militia, and the law is designed to maintain a militia so the british cant come back and take over again. The law sorta worked once (1812), but it's outdated now. Everywhere else, I dunno. It probably isnt a bad thing to have. Britain, what were you thinking, though? Your police officers cant carry guns? Crazyness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff38 Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 We must have limits on the number of firearms in this country (US). There are about 60 million 2 many. You no, this doesn't have to be black or white, all or nothing, with us or against us. I love guns and believe in limits. Is that so hard? If you think the US is still a democracy, remember the NRA a tiny group of people who dictate gun policy to our leaders. Not the people (majority) of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Well, i say it looks like a sad day to me, when criminals can break in to a house, hurt themselves on a kitchen knife, sue and win. And they want to take my self defense away uhg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-s/<itzo- Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Originally posted by acdcfanbill when criminals can break in to a house, hurt themselves on a kitchen knife, sue and win. did you get that from Liar Liar with Jim Carrey. anyway i support gun control. we need to decrease violence in today's scociety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Nope i did not, it may sound the work of hollywood but there are actually cases in court where criminals have won. The fact that people want to ban guns on the basis for a safer society that has less crime is pure fantasy, because if you look at the crime statistics for developed countrys who have already mass banned guns, their cimes usually go up after the legislation is passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Originally posted by -s/<itzo- did you get that from Liar Liar with Jim Carrey. anyway i support gun control. we need to decrease violence in today's scociety. No, he didnt, thats a real case. I've heard of it before as well. Gun control is definitley a must, but how much control? I'd say weapons should be limited to small, personal handguns (like the tiny ones women put in pocketbooks) and rifles used for target practice. Hunters can be real men and use knives, no more of this hiding in a tree BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff38 Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 thats a real case. I've heard of it before as well. Sure, just about anything is possible. But for everyone of those there are 100's of children who shoot their brothers, sisters, friends, schoolmates, themselves with legal "guns of protection". Banning guns? I don't know anyone rational who believes guns should be banned completely. How about just a tiny little bit of common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 ya, i agree, common sense, its a quality i see a lot of people in power lack these days I'm not some big 'gun nut' who wants to have fully automatic rifles and bazookas or military hardware like that I just think its silly when they want to take guns away from people who like to shoot clay pidgeons or deer, or even shop owners who want to protect themselves and their businesses. We defently need some gun control, the degree in which it exists is the biggest problem we need to work through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 I agree with most of you guys, and I have to say that we here in Denmark have a pretty good system. In order to own / keep a gun you need to have a permission, which you can (almost) only get if you really can convince the police that you need one, as a hunter for example. And if you are above 18 you can of course buy a BB gun, a fun thing to have when you go shoot your mates(on fields designed to the purpose, of course). Heh, bang! Gotcha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XylanKasshu00 Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 I think Raider needs to be called the topic man. Lol, anyways. You see all these problems here? This and 100 other things flaw America. I guess that is why all the people that know how the run the country and driving cabs and washing dishes. Heh, I think you should be certified to use guns as protection, it would be so much safer and you know guns go in the right hands, a criminal would be to lazy to take a class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Guns are for people who are insecure. heh. cmon, the weight of the batsmashing the back of someone's head is much more gratifying than a small stone sized piece of lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWhiteRaider Posted November 23, 2002 Author Share Posted November 23, 2002 Guns are importain for keeping freedoms. You know what Hitler did in Germeny? He disarmed the people before he did alot of the terible things to the jews. Heck we would not have freedoms today if it was not for weapons. Beside more people die from knives than guns. And controling guns will not always get the weapons out of the hand of crimials. They already are breaking one law what is going to stop them from breaking the others? Only people who keep the law will turn in their guns. Country that have already banned guns have had more guns related crimes than other countries. I can't remember, but I think it was a law in Isreal that you have to carry one(ASK can confirm it.). The reason the terrorist in Isreal are going to suicide bombings is because if they try to shoot up a place they end up like swiss cheese. a criminal would be to lazy to take a class. [/Quote] True the aim of the average crimial is very bad that they will miss if they are not within 15 ft. Remember crimials are lazy if they were not they would get a honest job. They do not want to get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Taking classes to obtain guns sounds great on paper, but it doesnt work in the real world, you think Criminals obtain guns legaly? of course they dont, since we have A) laws prohibiting convicted felons from purchesing guns and B) Background checks its extreemly difficult for a felon to obtain a gun legally. most are stolen, or bought for them by other people, both which can happen if law abiding citizens are made to take tests to get a permit for their weapons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff38 Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 Personally, I don't use guns anymore. I sold all of them. But thats ok, for home protection (i have a wife and kid) I keep a 23" Japanese Wakizashi on the wall next to my bed. If anybody ever breaks in, they will wish I had had a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 Strict gun control is good, you can easily see that by checking the numbers of people killed by guns in US and then check the numbers in a country that have banned guns. People claims that they have them for "protection", but protection from what? Surely, they can't protect themselfes against other guns, simply because bullets don't deflect bullets, if you want protection against it, buy a bullet-proof west of something. Protection against other countries who tries to invade? Seriously. Protection against green martians who invades earth? Grow up. Guns are importain for keeping freedoms. You know what Hitler did in Germeny? He disarmed the people before he did alot of the terible things to the jews. Heck we would not have freedoms today if it was not for weapons. Perhaps then, but times has changed, and now guns are of no other use than killing. Also, you must look at all the countries who has gotten their freedom without weapons. Beside more people die from knives than guns. The total murdered by knifes will probably increase, but overall, it will go way down. Country that have already banned guns have had more guns related crimes than other countries. Very wrong. Take Norway for an example. The total amount of people killed by firearms is around 10 I think, 15 maximum (probably less). This with a total population of 4 million. In US it is about 50 times more people, but over 2000 times more killed by firearms! In US, in 1999, there was 28 874 people killed by firearms, 3365 of them children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Originally posted by Rogue Nine Guns have no place in the hands of everyday citizens. The reason America became as strong as it is today and was not over-run by the English is because EVERY man owned a Gun. Originally posted by XylanKasshu00 ... a criminal would be to lazy to take a class. Are you mad? The 9/11 Terrorists took flight training in many diffrent schools... Far from lazy my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Originally posted by ZDawg The reason America became as strong as it is today and was not over-run by the English is because EVERY man owned a Gun. Are you mad? The 9/11 Terrorists took flight training in many diffrent schools... Far from lazy my friend. He meant common criminals, not terroists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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