The Count Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 Here's hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolsen Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 I'll second that. Katarn is the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kengo Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 I'd put money on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinga1 Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 if we don't, we best get to interact with him A LOT. btw, this create-a-character is kinda limiting to an sequel (JK4), doesn't it seem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kengo Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 In Deus Ex 2 you aren't JC Denton, the main character from the first game, but he can be a kind of mentor I think. Great idea I think, but yeh if its all different characters and branching storyline then a sequel may be hard to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Plo_Koon Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 i'm going to mis Kyle. We had some good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 I don't think the retiring of Kyle has anything to do with physical age. He's not that old and is very strong in the Force, which prolongs life (light side). He's already been through three games, and many people are getting sick of playing him. Besides, in JO he mentioned he would consider joining the academy after he came back from his leave with Jan. He's just not a very playable character anymore. Mentor, NPC, large role in the story is a must if they are keeping the Jedi Knight title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinga1 Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 besides, on http://www.starwars.com aND in the new essential guide to characters it says kyle eventually became an instructor. bid freakin whoop to play as. I wonder whatever happens to jan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Jan becomes a pornstar on the galactic interweb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=DarkZero=- Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Yup,I got the jan issue...I mean Im not a pervert why would I look at jan...-breath starts to shorten....pulse speeding up...sweat dripping down face- AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH -runs away- Nah you might see kyle in it instructing you,you never know,And besides I never liked kyle hes fat >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hekx Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Most probably will. Otherwise create a Kyle-like character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark jedi 8 Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 i liked kyle, but he has been through 3 games already. that is quite a few. besides since you will take on the role of one of his students in jkIII (supposedly), so you will probably be seeing a lot of him in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinga1 Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Originally posted by Emon Jan becomes a pornstar on the galactic interweb. i dunno if that's good or bad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Also, dont forget that there may well be a mod for kyle sometime in the future or even a prequel game sometime, i wouldnt rule either of those out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 If theres one more chance of playing as Kyle, I want it in the NJO. *dons Rhett-retardent suit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord60 Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent_Thunder Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 I don't mean to sound sound negative, but I honestly think that Raven (partially) ruined Kyle's character, and limited the options for having him in a fifth (if you count MotS) game by the character developement they gave him in JKII. In JKII Kyle finally seems to give up the character that I always liked... They seemed to have gotten rid of the rugged mercenary ("there's got to be a better way to make a living") for hire of the days of Dark Forces and JKI. In those games he was more of a loner, now he seems just like a regular member of the alliance. They even made him become good friends with Lando (what???) and Luke. I can understand Luke, since Kyle probably trained under him for a bit, but Lando, come on... They only had him in because they could get Billy D Williams for voice work. Now he is becoming a jedi master at the academy. Am I the only one that wishes they would've taken a different route in Kyle Katarn's story? A route that left some character developement to still take place, and didn't take such long leaps through the possible scenarios, wasting lots of content that could be used for the story line of other games? I think that the closeness they're giving him with the alliance, and luke, etc wasn't good for the story... With the way things are going they almost HAVE to make the next game focus on someone else. I also wish they would've taken a different route with the rest of the story line in JKII. I think it was a very poor idea to allow Dessan to actually GET to the Valley of the Jedi. I mean, in JK1 they made it sound like Jerec would be utterly unstopable if he succeeded in getting the Valleys power, but in JKII Dessan is still a weakling, and his 'Reborn' forces that bathed in the Valley's power are far weaker then a normal jedi... Also, I felt waaay too much was left open at the end of the game. Such as what ever happened to Dessan and his troops at the Valley? I know rouge squadren chased them away but it seemed to be too little of an explanation for something so monumental. Also, what about Tavion? What about all the Reborns and Shadow troopers? Luke said that there may be hundreds, but there may also be thousands of shadow troopers made. Luke even said that "it may be worse than that" when Kyle said that "we may have a new Emperor on our hands". Once Dessan was dead everything just seemed fine and dandy... What gives? I'm all for taking a break from Kyle and having someone else step in as the main character for a litte while. It worked in MotS, there's no reason why it shouldn't work again -- as long as they don't ruin Kyle's character to the point where he'll never be a viable main character again. Personally, my gut feeling tells me that this so called JKIII will not be touted as a true sequal to JKII, and that a game WILL be made that will focus on Kyle Katarn as the main character. Although Raven said that JKIII will NOT be an expansion, I still believe that when a true sequal is made, that it will be more or less an expansion, considering it uses the same engine as JO, and has a lot of the 'far out' features that an expansion might have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mero Vilul Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 I think we're gonna fight Kyle above a lava pit at the end and then we'll push him into it and he'll turn completely to the dark side and we would face him in episodes 4-5-6 as the master villian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Originally posted by Mero Vilul I think we're gonna fight Kyle above a lava pit at the end and then we'll push him into it and he'll turn completely to the dark side and we would face him in episodes 4-5-6 as the master villian! ROFL Hey come on, people, it's not that bad. Kyle's still going to be around. I liked playing Kyle, but I'm one of those people who doesn't want to see the same character saving the universe all the time, and playing as his Padawan makes sense to me. If he's not killed off, then there's still scope for him to make a come-back in yet another sequel, or expansion. Kyles's had 4 outings already (I always counted MotS as more than just an expansion pack...more like a true sequel that wasn't completely finished), so he's had a good run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 You could always NPC him in the new one or just replace the main char. it seems that we will be having a little more 'freedom' in the whole SP editing side of things. Which is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgirion Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 I want to play as Yun He was barely hit in JK1! YUN LIVES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Originally posted by Belgirion I want to play as Yun He was barely hit in JK1! YUN LIVES! ...ummm ... did you miss the part later on in the cutscene (light path) where he is destroyed and you get his saber? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 I like Kyle, enjoyed him very much in all 3 games, and would like to play as him again. Comments: - I disagree that he was ruined in JKII ... at least for me. I played JK1 as a light path jedi working towards further jedi enlightment and saber mastery, not guns and the 'Han Solo' ethic. So the path in JKII worked well for me. - I read from Mike Gummelt that Kyle poses more gameplay than problems for them - this is because he is a fully developed Jedi with tremendous power. He just can't tumble back to zero for no apparent reason again. I resented the beginning of MotS starting so weak as Kyle. - I also like the idea of a new JK / Kyle based game based on new engine being developed a year or so later. (Chang mentioned that also) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Here is a hint that we will be able to play as Kyle again in the future. This is from one of the developers at Raven: And it's called Jedi Knight III right now for lack of a better name, I, personally, would not call it a "sequel" to JK2 since I think a DF/JK game should always be about the Katarns (maybe a true JK3 could be about Kyle and Jan's child, who perhaps shows a particularly strong adeptness with the Force...?) So I wouldn't be surprised if the name doesn't stay "Jedi Knight III" (but who knows). Not that it's not a full game, it's bigger than JK2 in terms of gameplay, content and features, it's just not, in my opinion, the true sequel to JK2. I think that one shouldn't be done for a year or so and should probably use a new engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent_Thunder Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 That quote makes it sound like at the MOST we will only be seeing a Katarn in the form of a child of Jan an Kyle... But maybe you're right... For once I'd like to play Kyle as a full fledged Jedi that STARTS with powerful force powers (you can still add power progression without starting at ground zero). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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