BongoBob Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I am really tired of it. I have lost count of all the stupid whiners complaining about the selquals/preguals not being as good as the original. Every time the Matrix is brought up, it seems to come up. Every time star wars comes up it too seems to come up. Example: I was in a chat room, and the question was brought up. "When does episode 3 come out?" "Who cares, it'll suck just as bad if not worse than 1 and 2." Same thing happened with the Matrix revolutions dvd release date. I can't say anything about Matrix 2 and 3, but I can say this about 1 and 2 of SW. They rocked. And my friend has seen Matrix 2 and 3, and he said that they too were great. I will trust him on this, considering everytime he says that about a movie, it rocked. Sorry, been bottled up inside a looooooong time, and I had to say it if everyone else was too afraid to. EDIT: And some aren't even happy with 4 5 and 6! "Greedo didn't shoot first! I want the original movies!" EDIT2:I'm sorry if I made some pople mad, but I am just stating my oppinion too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Well, you need calm down and accept the fact that talk like that is always going to be around. Everybody has different opinions on the subject of what sucks and what rocks. If we didn't, there would just be alot of nodding and it would be pretty boring around here. Where was I? Ah yes! Greedo did not shoot first. I want the originals. The new editions DO suck. And now he's changing even more in them for the DVD release! He's totally redone the Vader's chamber scene and God knows what else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I know that when opinions - particularly on the Matrix - are asked for, I oblige. In particular the recent Enter the Matrix sequel thread, I stated my opinions on the state-of-the-series, and generally that if you show a game publisher that you will buy the new game no matter what they'll produce it. Look - I like Episode I, but I don't pretend that their wasn't a sh*tstorm of marketing, which included tons of tie-ins and lots of lousy product. Unfortunately, there are those for whom context (even in the loose Swampy sense of it) has no meaning. Someone will ask - 'how do I activate the console in JA on my Mac' and you are pretty much guaranteed to get several 'who car3z, mac sux' and some 'forget JA and get CoD - it roolz!11!' Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfnshannon Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 This has been happening for a long time Look at Rocky, Jaws, Lethal Weapon, I mean it is always going to be this The second one has a 75% chance of sucking. And what sequel sucked to you may be someone else's favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Originally posted by STTCT The second one has a 75% chance of sucking. yes, the odds are against us... I think that makes sense... TiE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Originally posted by STTCT This has been happening for a long time Look at Rocky, Jaws, Lethal Weapon, I mean it is always going to be this The second one has a 75% chance of sucking. And what sequel sucked to you may be someone else's favorite. And that is why I don't have the Indy Jones DVD set ... I can live on just Raiders (as we so fondly called it 'in the day') ... and without the other two. Jaws 3D! My 6 year old loves Spy Kids, especially the 3D one ... this was on TV a week or so ago and I mentioned it was originally 3D - Did you see it? No. Why not? Does it look good to you? No. It isn't now, wasn't then. It was a terrible movie then and it still is terrible. Is that supposed to be a shark? Yes. It doesn't look real. I know ... I know ... Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rccar328 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I am really tired of it. I have lost count of all the stupid whiners complaining about the selquals/preguals not being as good as the original. Well, if you don't agree with other people's opinions on the subject, don't get on that thread (or don't even ask, or leave the conversation...) Personally, I loved the first Matrix...but the other two sucked. The first movie simply set a standard that the next one didn't meet up to (and it was bad enough that I didn't see the third one...I heard it was pretty bad, though). When it comes to Star Wars, I love the original 3 movies...didn't care too much for the re-releases, though - it looks really cheezy when they try to meld modern special effects into older movies like that. And besides that, all it amounts to is Lucas trying to make a few extra bucks. As far as EPI & II go, that's the same story as the Matirx - EPI was good, but EPII didn't quite measure up to the standard set by EPI. They're gonna need a really great movie for EPIII to get it back together. But that's how sequels work - they make a really great movie, then decide to make another just for the money, and it turns out not being nearly as good as the original, and all of the fans complain. It's happened over and over and over and over throughout history, and it'll keep on happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Welcome to life, BB. Enjoy your stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticSpade Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 The Following statements are mine and mine alone: I liked the first Matrix and i do agree that the 2nd and 3rd weren't on par with the first but i still like them. and i like Ep 1 and Ep2 ( i loved the Yoda fight although some thought it to be cheesy) and i can't wait for Ep3 but everyone does have their own opinion on anything like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Originally posted by txa1265 ... I can live on just Raiders (as we so fondly called it 'in the day') ... and without the other two. But.....but.....but....then you don't have The last Crusade.......and...but......that movie is AWESOME!!! Sorry, Can't help it. I love The Last Crusade over all the other indies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Hey man, if everyone thought and did the same things, then life would be meaningless as your individual journey, and we just might as well be a bunch or automatons..... Variety is indeed the spice of life..... But alot of times, there is something that appeals to many, and at many different levels....SW is just one of those things..... One thing I can say, is that I have never met *anyone* (yet), that has ever said TESB sucked 'cause indeed it did not ! MTFBWYA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druid_Allanon Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Hmm... I never did see any reason to complain about ANY of the SW movies, all of them were great. Sure, many people complained about the standard of Ep II not as good at Ep 1's. That may be so, but Ep II has its strong points too. Romance's abundant in Ep II, no doubt it offended some people, but I think it's beautiful IMO. My love for SW begun when I watched Ep II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDove Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Actually, even Lucas (unintentionally) said - or was it his mentor Joe Campbell (sp? That his name even?) - beh in any case, one of them pretty much said that the new Star Wars movies suck. Whichever one of them said it was right. You can draw the conclusion from the interview Lucas had with some famous reporter on his Skywalker Ranch. It was released as a promo to the then impending Phantom Menace movie. Bleh, watch it yourself, it's not that hard to pick up where the movies went wrong. The movies are great by the standards he was making them, but when you take in the factor that time flows (and a couple of other mathematical/movie making factors), they just plain don't compete. So to sum up - by Star Wars standards the movies were adequate. by my standards the movies were blah (but I'll remain a fan, because I like the story, and some of the products released ie games). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermie Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Bongo, you are in the wrong forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MennoniteHobbit Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Originally posted by Herminator_64 Bongo, you are in the wrong forum. lol I just live in this world. I don't care about those stuff. If movies stink then they do. End of story for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord60 Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 I dont know some second movies are better than the first look at Terminator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 dont even try to convince me that T2 and T3 are better than T1 its hilarity mixed with humor on top of funnyness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Speaking of episode 3, didnt anyone read that article by the Toronto news reporter that thinks that George Lucas should NOT do Episode 3 and should just release it as-is. Course this is the same person who said that there should have only been one Indiana Jones, etc. This guy is a friggin moron if he doesnt want Episode 3 to be released. I mean C'mon, we have waited this long, and if George Lucas doesnt release it, there WILL be bloodshed. :gun5: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pnut_Man Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 More accurately, Andy: If Episode 3 is not released, or is a major letdown, the following chain of events will unfold: A horde of angry fan-boys, nerds, movie critics, and mercs will storm Skywalker Ranch armed with plastic lightsabers. Once inside Lucas will be located and held hostage. An official petition will be signed and verified by Lucas to remake the prequels along with a new pre-Episode 1 Trilogy (Or post Episode 6). Thus, the STAR WARS RENERD PROJECT would begin. Yeah, something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegis Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 I liked EP 1 and 2 A LOT, the originals are awesome too but i consider ep 1 and 2 to be on the same level for matrix, damn i was so dissapointed in matrix 2 i didnt even bother to see 3. pure commercial crap..and from what i've read instead of answering questions matrix rev only raises more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Originally posted by Pnut_Master More accurately, Andy: If Episode 3 is not released, or is a major letdown, the following chain of events will unfold: A horde of angry fan-boys, nerds, movie critics, and mercs will storm Skywalker Ranch armed with plastic lightsabers. Once inside Lucas will be located and held hostage. An official petition will be signed and verified by Lucas to remake the prequels along with a new pre-Episode 1 Trilogy (Or post Episode 6). Thus, the STAR WARS RENERD PROJECT would begin. Yeah, something like that Best. Plan. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa_0 Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Yea the main fact is GL would loose alot more if he didnt release episode 3. He would let millions of fans down and would probally walk away from star wars all together. Pnut is probally right about the storming of Skywalker Ranch. The day GL upsets the SW fans, will be the worst day GL would ever have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie™ Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Originally posted by Zappa_0 The day GL upsets the SW fans, will be the worst day GL would ever have. Revenge of the Nerds! DumDuDu!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoxStar Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 When does Episode III come out :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Originally posted by Astrotoy7 One thing I can say, is that I have never met *anyone* (yet), that has ever said TESB sucked 'cause indeed it did not ! I'll introduce you to my roommate and you won't be able to say that anymore. He hates all Star Wars movies. which is odd, because Star Wars and Fight club are like, the only two movies we disagree on. He likes fight Club, I like Star Wars. Go figure. And I don't want to hear that fight club is a good movie. I don't like it. end of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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